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May the 4th be with you.....always....

And you. Happy Star Wars day Dakka

Impressive stack of Rhinos, and £14 each actually sounds pretty darn cheap. Good find, and best of luck getting through them all.

I prefer being on the dark side so I am a 5th Lord

Happy Cinqo de Mayo.... The speed you put these models out and the sheer quality of the build & paint jobs.... You are either properly mad or a genius!

I am struggling to get my terminators done and you are pinging out top drawer models all over the place!

I like putting HP markers on th base of your Fire Raptor as it is characteful and fun, can't wait to see what you come up with.

Cheers Dantay for the comments. They are onky tabletop quality but that is enough for me. I get surges of hobby time. I promise I am no genius though so definitely must be mad....

Reds done and tracks primed. Got to do the arrows for tac livery and then its time to varnish and wash. These may actually be done tonight! Although I think the Mrs has plans for me this afternoon. Yesterday saw nothing get done at all as the women were at a baby shower and the guys, well beer and footy, obviously...

Will update again later.

Definately got some good progress going on those Rhinos...
Have fun doing the tracks I had to prime and paint some LR tracks yesturday. It was only for 2 LRs, but it was aweful! I hate doing tracks...

Well......

I didn't do them un 2 days as real life got in the way.

They are almost done tho and will be finished in a day or 2 when I have time.

The tracks are easy btw Z. I leave them in the sprue and add them after paint. It's the wheels that are taking forever.

Talons are all done but waiting for some bars for the bases so I can put pics up.

Gonna put some well deserved focus in the Thunderhawk next but may do a squad if bikes here and there too.

Tourney is in 2 weeks so need to put transfers on raptor snd that 'something' on the back of the base.

How did everyone get on this weekend? Anything exciting?

I’d worry that the spots where the tracks attach to the sprue would be to much touch up/clean up work for doing that way. I just assemble them before priming myself. Painting them it time consuming, but not hard. I just do them black with a silver drybrush.

Weekend was fine here, but also unproductive.

I leave the tracks off the tank too, but there is just so much track... IG tank tracks go all around the vehicle, so you end up doing a lot more than a SM vehicle.

I had a relatively productive weekend. Got the Vulture done

What are you taking to the tourney?

 Zambro wrote:
Definately got some good progress going on those Rhinos...
Have fun doing the tracks I had to prime and paint some LR tracks yesturday. It was only for 2 LRs, but it was aweful! I hate doing tracks...

Tracks are easy. leave them off the sprue and undercoat them black. works for any tank.

Yeah I just touch the spots from sprue with a black dot. Weathering should hide it tbf.

So the tourney list this time is....

Kor Sarro
Lvl 2 libby with sheild eternal
3 squads of bikers with an attack bike each, meltas and combi melta
1 bike squad with flamers and combi flamer and mb's
Attack bike unit of 3 with MM
Vindicator with dozer blade
Triple las pred
Fire raptor with quad heavy bolters

1497pts

I considered dropping the flamer unit for an ADL with comms relay to help the fire raptor come in but then remembered that my task force doesn't have one and decided to stick to the unit. They come on in outflank and either burn up some units or boost onto an objective.

Thoughts please people?

Looks like a solid list. I’m not sold on the combi meltas on the sergeants though. How many melta shots do you generally need to pump into something? If you are getting two regular and one multi from the AB do you need the 4th from the sarge? And I might have geared one of them with grav/plas, just for variety. You should do fine with it.

Yeah I was unsure about combi melta 1st time round but the amount of shots that miss they gave been a god send. I won't take grav as it ain't in the old fluff snd I have had bad experiences with plasma so only take it on a titan that can't get hot haha. It's really all about the Alpha strike. If I go first then after scouting I can eliminate a lot of AV stuff and take enough wounds off MC's thst my opponent has to think twice before charging. I've killed a few dreads to overwatch too...

Massive game for me tonight. It's the final of our Champions league and tonights game sees me playing an Eldar list in second place. I'm 2 points ahead so need a win or draw. He has to win. The tension and good banter leading up to thus match has been epic. It may come diwn to whoever goes first tho, as if I get it then I can seriously cripple him. My air force may also be a deciding factor as if a raven and 2 talons come on together they will be leathal.

It will be fun either way and I know Ant (my opponent) reads this blog and will agree that there will only ever be ONE first club champion hahaha

Best of luck with the game (although posting this might be a little late...)

Sounds like a really close one. It'll be a really intense game, it's all going to hang on every move/shoot/assault...

Soooooooooooooooooooooo........................

What a game. Defo worthy of the final.

I got first turn and took out his wave serpent for first blood. I also managed to take a wound off the Avatar with my pred and a few wraith gaurd died to melta. He hit back hard on his turn and I 'fortunately' failed 2 break tests so he couldn't make charge range on me.

I then made a mistake in charging the libby into the dying wraithknight only to realise that he couldnt hurt him with the force sword.

None of my flyers came on and the raven and 1 talon didn't arrive until turn 4.

The avatar died to scouts, the wraithknight died to scouts and then the heroic little ran to contest an objective to hold the game until turn 7.

No matter what I did I couldn't roll to hit or wound with my flyers and lost them all to 1 crimson hunter that I couldn't deal with.

I only had one wound left to deal on his warlord but couldn't get it and when all was said and done I was defeated 3-1 he had slay the warlord, line breaker and an objective whilst I had only first blood. I had 1 yes 1 scout left contesting the other objective. If that unit of jetbikes had failed their brek test then I would have had an objective and he would have lost line breaker to make it 2-2.

I obviously need to pray and make more sacrifices to the dice gods.....

Absolutely brilliant game and by the end we had quite a crowd watching. Other than the stupid/brave libby I never made any mistakes that I particularly regret but it was just down to bad rolls. Great game and I now have the title of 'brave Sir Robin' (monty pythons holy grail) for tje ampunt of times my bikes ran away.

Only took a few pics as was too engrossed sorry...

When the dice are against you, there is no salvation.

Sounds like fun was had by all, so wins all around though.

Also, you need to play with more terrain. Planet bowling ball favors long range shooty armies more then those who ignore difficult terrain tests.

Yeah, it was random terrain and table choice. I get a 4+ jink anywayvso it rather suited me tbh. Didn't want him getting too much cover haha, not that it matterednin the end tho.

Hey guys, just a quick post with the pics of my list I'm taking to Throne of Skulls next week.

Still got to add the extra bit to the back of the base of Fire Raptor and paint the sheild fir the Vindicator (counts as dozer blades).

Any thoughts or comments welcome as always.

Wow... looks really great with it all put together like that!

What is the break down of the bikes? I see Khan and a libby, but I cant work out how the rest of the bikes breakdown into squads.

Cheers mate, list is a couple of posts up ftom here.

Thanks, I got it.

So, you have 3 squads of 3 bikes + 1 attack bike. Is that legal?
5 models need to be used to make the bike squads troops. I see where you are coming from, there are 5 marines, but it's still only 4 models. I just dug around the codex, and the old codex for an answer and didn't turn anything up. Do you know for definate?

 Zambro wrote:
Thanks, I got it.

So, you have 3 squads of 3 bikes + 1 attack bike. Is that legal?
5 models need to be used to make the bike squads troops. I see where you are coming from, there are 5 marines, but it's still only 4 models. I just dug around the codex, and the old codex for an answer and didn't turn anything up. Do you know for definate?

Looking at the picture, is there a squad missing? It looks like there are 3 legal 5 man bikes squads, plus the extras, but the list has 4.

They do look sharp lined up nicely.

I see where you are coming from but the squad only has to be 3 bikes. You get a serg and 2 bikers for 63pts. As per codex the attack bike classes as 2 bikes meaning a 10 man unit breaks down to 5 and 4 model squads.

There are 3, 4 model melta squads and a 3 model flamer squad.

Nobody has questioned it when submitted to previous tournament so must be ok?

I cant comment on other people not picking it up, I've only ever run 4 bikes + attack bike as minimum.

And I did see in the combat squad rules that bike squads are full strength at 8 bikes + attack bike and split to 5 bikes and 3 bikes + attack bike. But it you read it thoroughly, it doesn't explicitly state that attack bikes count as two bikes. It just says this is what you do in this situation.
If nobody has a problem with it, then by all means run with it. But for my piece of mind, i'm going to make a post over in YMTC to see what the general consensus is.
(sorry for potentially ruining your list... )

*edit*
I posted a thread over in YMTC. Here it is

I’m with Zambro on this. I’ve always read it as 5 total bikes, not 5 marines on wheels. I field my bike squads as:

1 Sarge
2x Special weapons
1 Basic bolter bike
1 Attack bike.

 Zambro wrote:
I cant comment on other people not picking it up, I've only ever run 4 bikes + attack bike as minimum.

And I did see in the combat squad rules that bike squads are full strength at 8 bikes + attack bike and split to 5 bikes and 3 bikes + attack bike. But it you read it thoroughly, it doesn't explicitly state that attack bikes count as two bikes. It just says this is what you do in this situation.
If nobody has a problem with it, then by all means run with it. But for my piece of mind, i'm going to make a post over in YMTC to see what the general consensus is.
(sorry for potentially ruining your list... )

*edit*
I posted a thread over in YMTC. Here it is

No worties mate, I've ran them a few times and GW TO's have been fine so should be fine this time too. I look at it as 5 models because there are 5 models of marines there. The sidcar is a seperate model that attaches to the bike. That's why in a squadcthey talk about marines, ie 5 man or 10 man.

The flamer unit is obviously not a troop unit but the melta is.

I'd check with the TO before you go. They may have been ignorant of the rules, or there was no strong differing opinion. I'd argue its an illegal list, if that's how they rule, you're gunna have a bad time. Even if by the "5 Marine" logic, I'd say there are only 4 bikes (or 4 1/2), not making it scoring.

Ahh, I feel a little bad cause I've pointed out a floor in your list a week before the tournament...

 Zambro wrote:
Ahh, I feel a little bad cause I've pointed out a floor in your list a week before the tournament...

Don't feel bad. I'm emailing the TO to check. Have checked faq's and nothing there. It really does come down to interpretation. The combat squad bit is where it causes ambiguity.

I will take the list with me plus another (I won't be as happy with it tho) and see what is said. It doesn't benefut me massively and tbf I have paid the points and more for 2 extra bikes so have plenty of argument on both sides. Also it won't matter in 2 weeks as we will be arguing over 7th ambiguity

On a different note here are the rhinos ready for wash. Still need to tidy some of the red up too.

Oh, wow. The uniformity on those rhinos is awesome.

Roll on 7th... lol.
I've not read any of the rumors (too long a thread to dig the relevant info out), but i've picked up on a few things. Mainly the 'magic phase'. I find myself wanting Psykers, but the libby is a little lack luster. Maybe this new phase will make it more interesting.
I'm also hopeful for a bump for assault. I'd definately look into making that more of a viable tactic for my Scars.