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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:06:27
Subject: No More White Dwarf Monthly : Dwarf cover p 14
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Been Around the Block
Great Britain
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Hadn't seen this in the forum and thought it might be worth mentioning (appologies if it has been covered).
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-monthly-white-dwarf-magazine-is-dead.html
Apparently it will be replaced by a weekly magazine called "White Dwarf Visions" and a monthly one called "Warhammer Visions".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:09:27
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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About 15 years ago, I would be in mourning, calling for immediate action to save an institution. I've not picked up or read a White Dwarf in about 5 years, with the exception of the 'new, reimagined' one and that was such a miserable rag that I spend all of 3 minutes looking at it.
White Dwarf was dead and buried long, long ago.
Who, with access to the internet, honestly gives a gak?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:12:16
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Lord of the Fleet
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My expectations are very low after hearing this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:17:10
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well I guess this is what this http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/572246.page
mystery rumour of something big hitting on the 11th was going to be
I can't see a weekly (paper) magazine doing anything unless it's very, very cheap
As to a re-focused monthly warhammer vision? I can't really see how they can re-focus if they don't want to put rules/game ideas etc in the mag any more (unless they've changed their minds again)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:36:29
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Well, I've got nothing to say about this but I am certainly going to think that getting rid of such an iconic part of 'the GW hobby' is a bad sign very, very loudly.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:40:03
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Terrifying Treeman
The Fallen Realm of Umbar
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Well I guess this is what this http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/572246.page
mystery rumour of something big hitting on the 11th was going to be
I can't see a weekly (paper) magazine doing anything unless it's very, very cheap
As to a re-focused monthly warhammer vision? I can't really see how they can re-focus if they don't want to put rules/game ideas etc in the mag any more (unless they've changed their minds again)
From my own source, what is happening is that the new release stuff goes into the weekly magazine, whilst the Painting guides, Armies on Parade and so-on stays in the monthly mag, which is going to 240 odd pages.
According to my source, it will be going up to ~$20 AU, will have a yearly subscription, and if for some reason you have a WD subscription it will tick over into the new monthly mag, but not the weekly one. I can additionally confirm the new names.
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:42:41
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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Well, even having seen what WD has become in recent years, it'll still be a shame to see it go.
Relaunching as two separate publications could be good, though after the recent advent DLC frenzy I'm not sure they'd be willing to put much content in there free of charge. All depends on who's in the driving seat of the change.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:42:46
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Lady of the Lake
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$20 for a WD straining harder for content with a weekly filter on it? :/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 12:44:32
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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They've announced the funeral for WD finally. They kept his body in state for a long time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:03:11
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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H.B.M.C. wrote:They've announced the funeral for WD finally. They kept his body in state for a long time.
Its sounds as though this is nothing but a name change and the usual price rise. Warhammer Visions is almost certain to be just as worthless as White Dwarf.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:06:57
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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They couldn't fill a massive magazine with enough actual content on a monthly basis, what makes them think they can do a weekly book and then a monthly one on top of that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:07:27
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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How does this go with people that just bought a yearly subscription? I look forward to GW having to refund a lot of people... For that reason alone surely this is bogus?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:11:49
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If today's WD had the stuff I can find in my archive issues from over 10 years ago, I'd buy it, internet or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:13:37
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Wow, they're ending WD. Never thought I'd see the day, though it is a poor catalogue substitute these days.
Also, I'm sure "This is great news!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:20:07
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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Medium of Death wrote:How does this go with people that just bought a yearly subscription?
I look forward to GW having to refund a lot of people...
For that reason alone surely this is bogus?
I'd expect that their preferred solution would be to carry the credit over to the new monthly magazine, for a shorter period if the price is higher, failing that a refund / store credit should also be available.
I'm sure it'll all be detailed in the new release for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:29:05
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
I don't even KNOW anymore.
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As the kewl kiddies on the Internet say - "Meh."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:43:18
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
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His Master's Voice wrote:
If today's WD had the stuff I can find in my archive issues from over 10 years ago, I'd buy it, internet or not.
Agreed - if WD was anything like it was back in the day, I'd keep buying it.
Like others though, If they can't fill a magazine with decent stuff now, then what is the point in doing away with WD & replacing it with another mag?
I'd like to think that this is going to be good, but I can't help thinking it's just calling the same turd a different name.
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Fighting on with dignity,
In life and death we deal,
The power and the majesty,
Amidst the blood and steel. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:44:02
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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GW have only themselves to blame. But they won't.
Hang on a sec. You do know which company we're talking about here, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:44:14
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Seems a bit odd to me, especially as WD just brought on 3 new members of staff and Andrew Kendrick left. I don't think it sounds that bad really. Although a weekly mag for new releases might mean a shift in release form all at once to staggered over the month.
(edit) I just renewed my iPad sub this month so I will be intrigued to see how that is handled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:46:13
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Dakka Veteran
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Medium of Death wrote:How does this go with people that just bought a yearly subscription?
I look forward to GW having to refund a lot of people...
For that reason alone surely this is bogus?
Having dealt with this issue myself in the past, they will most likely transfer old subs into the new magazine. Assuming the rumor is true.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:46:33
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Hallowed Canoness
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So; will my next codex be split into two different 230 pages strong Warhammer visions magazines, or into four weekly White Dwarf issues ? Or digital-only again ? The suspense is killing me ! [edit]I guess it's going to be split in 1 Warhammer Vision issue and 3 White Dwarf issues, but only on the digital version of those magazines, so I can get the best of both world, and then some more ![/edit]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 13:57:15
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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I for one am shocked, SHOCKED by this news.
I'd assumed WD stopped publishing years ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:01:36
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Major
London
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Old wine/New bottle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:17:20
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Why would i pay twenty dollars for a magazine, whilst on sites like these i can find
video review/painting guides
modelling diaries
battle reports
terrain
alternative manufacturers
and not to mention lots of various and interesting hobby projects/armies from interesting people.
Most of which are of excellent quality and include many other bits and pieces from alternative manufacturers.
Not also that the content online is free from the narrow constricted way in which GW presents the hobby through their media
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:25:34
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Krellnus wrote:
From my own source, what is happening is that the new release stuff goes into the weekly magazine, whilst the Painting guides, Armies on Parade and so-on stays in the monthly mag, which is going to 240 odd pages.
If true, this could be big... I think everyone is missing the implications here.
Firstly the simple bit, the monthly mag looks like it will no longer be a catalog. If so that can only be a good thing. I'm hoping what this means is they are going back to what they tried to do with the relaunch, but failed to. Possibly management stopping editorial and writing staff slipping back in to lazy writing, as they did with the relaunch, by taking that maitirial out of the publication all together? Fingers crossed, but I am not hopeful.
Secondly, this means must be removing the LotR/Hobbit stuff from the monthly mag, just due to the name...
Thirdly, and most importantly, won't the weekly mag having the new releases mean they are moving away from the monthly "Release Saturday" and giving us weekly releases?
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insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:26:27
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Nasty Nob
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When I read the thread title, I thought it was great news, because it meant they were going to stop putting money and staff time into crap that nobody wants and concentrate more on producing actual content in the form of rulebooks and supplements.
But apparently they've found a way to be even more pointless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:28:44
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Perfect Organism wrote:When I read the thread title, I thought it was great news, because it meant they were going to stop putting money and staff time into crap that nobody wants and concentrate more on producing actual content in the form of rulebooks and supplements.
But apparently they've found a way to be even more pointless.
You think they run WD at a loss?
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insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:31:20
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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GW have sold pretty much 'pure' catalogues from their very early days such as the Citadel Compendiums
eg http://www.solegends.com/citcomp1/
(with helpful holes punched in at some point if I remember right)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:34:30
Subject: Re:Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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Breotan wrote:
Hang on a sec. You do know which company we're talking about here, right?
Indeed, hence the rest of the sentence. Though having seen what WD has been like previously, there is always the hope that they'll manage to drag themselves back to something approaching that level of content. If they do, it'll be delicious.  If they don't, then we're not really loosing much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 14:35:01
Subject: Rumour: No More White Dwarf Monthly
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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And I bet each rag will only be available direct from gw stores.
Is can see the weekly one being dlc only .and with the removal of the new release stuff from the monthly one it now frees up deadlines allowing them just to concentrate on game reviews and fluff (ie reprinted stuff from previous wd)
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