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just spotted putative prices via http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=98034

3.2 Euros each for the weekly (£2.60, $4.40)

10 Euros each for the monthly (£8.30 , $13.60)

The German site also mentions that all current subscribers will be getting a letter through the post about it since the new monthly magazine will require a price change.

They have lost me as a subscriber then. I don't care how good the putative new monthly magazine is - no way I am paying double the price and nearly £9 for a magazine...

Warhammer Visions is a terrible name for the new monthly mag.

What idiot in charge at GW decided that scrapping their 30-year legacy would be a good idea?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
just spotted putative prices via http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=98034

3.2 Euros each for the weekly (£2.60, $4.40)

10 Euros each for the monthly (£8.30 , $13.60)

Wow. That's quite a price increase; quite firmly beyond the "I'll get one to see how bad it is" range.

On the other hand, from what they said in the original rumor it is a steep page increase and a removal of all the 'ads' from the visions one. So more content, less 'buy this mini!'.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They couldn't fill a massive magazine with enough actual content on a monthly basis, what makes them think they can do a weekly book and then a monthly one on top of that?

Maybe they've done the decent thing and farmed out the GW magazine to someone who knows how to produce a proper mag. And anyway, it's not like there isn't tons of great stuff they can put in it, only reason WD got so bad was management's decision to employ people who can't make a magazine, and then tell them to only print ads...

Yeah, the removing the ads part is what makes me so suspect of this rumor. Would they really ever remove the ads?

A 230 page magazine every month? That seems unlikely.

 pretre wrote:
On the other hand, from what they said in the original rumor it is a steep page increase and a removal of all the 'ads' from the visions one. So more content, less 'buy this mini!'.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/games-workshop/games-workshops-white-dwarf-magazine-changing/

Suggests its little more than current white dwarf, lots of 'high quality pictures' , although they have it tagged as a similar cost to the current mag.

 jonolikespie wrote:
Well, I've got nothing to say about this but I am certainly going to think that getting rid of such an iconic part of 'the GW hobby' is a bad sign very, very loudly.

This! It is a bad sign. What can we expect next?

NoggintheNog wrote:

 pretre wrote:
On the other hand, from what they said in the original rumor it is a steep page increase and a removal of all the 'ads' from the visions one. So more content, less 'buy this mini!'.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/games-workshop/games-workshops-white-dwarf-magazine-changing/

Suggests its little more than current white dwarf, lots of 'high quality pictures' , although they have it tagged as a similar cost to the current mag.

Keep in mind that BoW is using the original Natfka story as the source. So the embellishment he adds does not actually come from anywhere real. Standard BOW kind of stuff.

 pretre wrote:

NoggintheNog wrote:

 pretre wrote:
On the other hand, from what they said in the original rumor it is a steep page increase and a removal of all the 'ads' from the visions one. So more content, less 'buy this mini!'.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/games-workshop/games-workshops-white-dwarf-magazine-changing/

Suggests its little more than current white dwarf, lots of 'high quality pictures' , although they have it tagged as a similar cost to the current mag.

Keep in mind that BoW is using the original Natfka story as the source. So the embellishment he adds does not actually come from anywhere real. Standard BOW kind of stuff.

He isnt using the story as a source, hes saying what his contacts have confirmed after he dug into this after the story broke. I have never seen them make stuff up at any point in their history, so I'm not entirely sure where this comes from.

Judging by the name, Warhammer Visions, I expect it to be lean on words and heavy on model pictures and art work... Which is fine with me!

I wonder how will the weekly magazine be distributed? Will it be available at all stores as normal? GW stores only? Digital only?

 -DE- wrote:
Judging by the name, Warhammer Visions, I expect it to be lean on words and heavy on model pictures and art work... Which is fine with me!

I wonder how will the weekly magazine be distributed? Will it be available at all stores as normal? GW stores only? Digital only?

''Digital only'' seems to be the policy GW is persuing at the moment.

Its a piece of gak now. Nothing of value will be lost.

Just another nail in the long overdue coffin.

I feel strange. If the new magazine is pure genuine content with increased page count I might just faint. And of course, FLGS means getting it for the price of the current farce.

This time of year is when the new "collection" mags usually start, maybe GW have done a deal similar to the LotR battle games magazine...

 scarletsquig wrote:
What idiot in charge at GW decided that scrapping their 30-year legacy would be a good idea?

This is great news! Now your favorite Hobby™ magazine will no longer carry the heavy burden of living up to all of those old issues! You'll no longer have to be disappointed with every issue and wish for the good old days when our magazine was great! Now you can focus on your favorite part of the Hobby™: buying more Games™ Workshop™ Products™ every week!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They couldn't fill a massive magazine with enough actual content on a monthly basis, what makes them think they can do a weekly book and then a monthly one on top of that?

Unless of course the monthly is just 4-5 issues of the weekly smushed together with some full-page shots of the same studio paintjobs we've all seen a hundred times before.

 wuestenfux wrote:
This! It is a bad sign. What can we expect next?

A bad sign of what? WD was dead for a couple of years now. If anything, removing the rotting corpse is a good first step on a road to offering a worthwhile product again. Not that I expect that Visions thing to be worth it. No expectations, no disappointment.

That is sad news. White dwarf isn't what it once was, don't think anyone will argue with that, but I have still been enjoying it every month.
I know most of you guys have been saying the opposite, but my favourite bit of the current white dwarf is the hobbyists armies. That why I like sites like these, that's why I like the mag. The kit bashing segment is amazing, I just wish they wouldn't limit themselves to 3-4 but do a big old feature with as many as they can find.

Hopefully the new mag will be everything the old white dwarf was - like in the Paul Sawyer years. I also really hope that the £8-9 figure isn't true though, that would be one hell of a joke.

 pretre wrote:
So more content, less 'buy this mini!'.

What is the difference as far as GW is concerned?

I'm optimistic about this. I don't read White Dwarf, so if it gets worse I don't care. Doesn't affect me one bit.

If it gets better (or better yet, good) then I might have a sweet magazine to read. So from my point of view it can only get better.

If it's true.

The Brückenkopf website said that this is not just a rumour but that retailers were officially informed today about this change.

I can't see real content though from the current team under the current GW management. Maybe the list of retailers will be blown up from 11 pages to 25 pages.

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:GW have sold pretty much 'pure' catalogues from their very early days such as the Citadel Compendiums

Not sure if serious. But White Dwarf started as a quite good gaming magazine with reviews of mostly non GW products.

scarletsquig wrote:Warhammer Visions is a terrible name for the new monthly mag.
What idiot in charge at GW decided that scrapping their 30-year legacy would be a good idea?

The same one with the idea to charge more for the White Dwarf, even from current subscribers.
I call the new magazine Fine Dwarf.

H.B.M.C. wrote:They couldn't fill a massive magazine with enough actual content on a monthly basis, what makes them think they can do a weekly book and then a monthly one on top of that?

Someone recently said: There's cynicism, then there's whatever it is you've become as of late. But I guess that's okay with you if it is your cynicism
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450/570012.page#6417013

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

Unless of course the monthly is just 4-5 issues of the weekly smushed together with some full-page shots of the same studio paintjobs we've all seen a hundred times before.

This is almost certain to be the case.

This is unfortunate. I know WD isn't great, and hasn't been in awhile. But every once in awhile I liked to pick one up and look at all the shiny new models. Hopefully "Warhammer Visions" will be decent, but I won't hold my breath.

Hmm, I've got a direct debit subscription, not that I really read the magazines much anymore but I do always have that feeling that, "you know, I *could* want to read it."

I'll probably give this Warhammer Vision (agreed, stupid name) a go, assuming my sub carries over, read it for a couple of months, see if it is worth reading.

If not, then the change gives me a good catalyst to just say screw it and cancel my subscription. - Storing them takes up pretty much all my bookcases in my flat anyhow.

 Compel wrote:
Hmm, I've got a direct debit subscription, not that I really read the magazines much anymore but I do always have that feeling that, "you know, I *could* want to read it."

I'll probably give this Warhammer Vision (agreed, stupid name) a go, assuming my sub carries over, read it for a couple of months, see if it is worth reading.

If not, then the change gives me a good catalyst to just say screw it and cancel my subscription. - Storing them takes up pretty much all my bookcases in my flat anyhow.

See my post earlier. Subs are carrying over - providing you want to cough up the extra that they are going to charge per month.

Thinking about it: Visions sounds like more full page photos and less text.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
About 15 years ago, I would be in mourning, calling for immediate action to save an institution. I've not picked up or read a White Dwarf in about 5 years, with the exception of the 'new, reimagined' one and that was such a miserable rag that I spend all of 3 minutes looking at it.

White Dwarf was dead and buried long, long ago.

Who, with access to the internet, honestly gives a gak?

Think this is just about it.

Sad that the name of the mag is coming to an end, and what that represents, but really the spirit of the magazine passed on years ago.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Thinking about it: Visions sounds like more full page photos and less text.

Nah, they surely wouldn't just collect a load of pictures together that had mainly been printed on (at least one) other occasions? Then charge a premium price for it?