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 azreal13 wrote:
I utterly disagree.

I think GW are much more keenly aware of the criticism levelled against them than you give them credit for (even if their attempts to assuage it are generally clumsy and poorly implemented) and I could cite such things as the production of supplements and bundles with an actual discount as evidence of them reacting to criticism.

What better way to take the "WD was better in the old days" stick away from the critics than to kill WD completely?

I doubt the sales of the mag are stellar, but even within this thread you are seeing plenty of posters who claim to read, enjoy, even subscribe to WD, and if you can get even some of your customers to pay you to advertise to them, you're on to a winner.

Again, being aware and caring are 2 very distinct things, and the big wigs at GW have stated time and again, they only care about the new blood, which incidentally either like the mag or dont, but dont have a different point of reference other than what they see now. I dont really think WD is such a big seller for them, for starters they are canning all translations and keeping just english (if rumors are to be believed), if the mag is selling well, rebranding or not, there is no reason to cut foreign editions unless they are simply not selling. I would grant that GW does not need WD to be a big seller either, i think if it would operate at a moderate loss or just break even, they would keep it, just as an advertising thing, to me this drastic move signals the mag is operating at a higher loss than they are willing to accept.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/572463.page#6419276

Official news on white dwarf and the new magazine, new info from.

 Kroothawk wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:They couldn't fill a massive magazine with enough actual content on a monthly basis, what makes them think they can do a weekly book and then a monthly one on top of that?

Someone recently said: There's cynicism, then there's whatever it is you've become as of late. But I guess that's okay with you if it is your cynicism
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450/570012.page#6417013

What you've quoted of me isn't cynicism.

The iPad newsstand thing for WD now reads "warhammer visions, annual subscription £44.99"

What is the price of a White Dwarf now? Will they want more money from subscribers when it changes over?

Do people still read that catalog? It stopped being a magazine years ago.

 necronspurs2012 wrote:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/572463.page#6419276
Official news on white dwarf and the new magazine, new info from.

Why not just post it instead of making a duplicate thread? Maybe even with a correctly stated source?

 necronspurs2012 wrote:
White Dwarf will be changing from monthly to weekly, meaning releases will be spread across the space of a month rather than all at once. The change will mean army updates will now start with the codex/armybook with a few new releases (kit Re-do's) on the first week and bigger or newer kits the second week. With the hobbit releases on the third week and other releases on the fourth though how pre-orders will work is still yet to be seen. White dwarf will be smaller with about just 34 pages and prices will also drop to about £2.40 in the UK per weekly issue. All hobby related articles except painting guides on the new releases will be removed. The new monthly magazine will focus on just 40k and fantasy hobby like modeling, painting, converting etc.. This will be bigger than the current white dwarf but will also be around £7.50 UK price. This will feature things like army on parade and army of the month style displays aswell as hobby tips, conversions, paint schemes and much more.This means people can just buy the issues that feature products they are interested in rather than a whole white dwarf, and those who prefer the hobby side can buy a magazine just dedicated to hobby rather than advertisements. The anouncement is set to be this saturday, with the new style of magazines starting from the first of February. So what do you think about Games Workshop bringing back proper hobby articles and releasing things weekly again?

 Theduke07 wrote:
You rarely can a successful product.

This is Games "Limited Edition Space Hulk" Workshop, remember?

I'm a bit sad that it doesn't mention anything about fluff articles in the magazines. Fluff articles were awesome.
Liber Sororitas is still imho the very best piece of fluff on Sisters of Battle, and I'm sure many niche chapters also owe a lot to WD fluff !

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This is Games "Limited Edition Space Hulk" Workshop, remember?

Would you qualify this then as cynicism?

I think that WD from 1991 until whenever it that they stopped doing Index Astartes articles with actual rules in them represents the high water mark for the magazine.

This change doesn't seem like it is something that will be all that interesting, but I'll give it a try when it is released - for old time's sake!

Part of me wonders if the change is to further crack down on 'leaks'. If they aren't revealing everything in a monthly feature, but rather a week-to-week thing, then there's less chance of pictures showing up on that fad that won't go away (ie. the Internet).




And that was cynicism, for anyone wondering.

I don't understand why leaks bother them so much. It creates buzz, which creates sales.

 dsteingass wrote:
I don't understand why leaks bother them so much. It creates buzz, which creates sales.

Heresy!!!! Do you want third party manufacturers to have a new version of this months releases in the three weeks the leaks afford?

All Official



White Dwarf will be changing from monthly to weekly, meaning releases will be spread across the space of a month rather than all at once. The change will mean army updates will now start with the codex/armybook with a few new releases (kit Re-do's) on the first week and bigger or newer kits the second week. With the hobbit releases on the third week and other releases on the fourth though how pre-orders will work is still yet to be seen. White dwarf will be smaller with about just 34 pages and prices will also drop to about £2.40 in the UK per weekly issue. All hobby related articles except painting guides on the new releases will be removed. The new monthly magazine will focus on just 40k and fantasy hobby like modeling, painting, converting etc.. This will be bigger than the current white dwarf but will also be around £7.50 UK price. This will feature things like army on parade and army of the month style displays aswell as hobby tips, conversions, paint schemes and much more.This means people can just buy the issues that feature products they are interested in rather than a whole white dwarf, and those who prefer the hobby side can buy a magazine just dedicated to hobby rather than advertisements. The anouncement is set to be this saturday, with the new style of magazines starting from the first of February. So what do you think about Games Workshop bringing back proper hobby articles and releasing things weekly again?  White Dwarf subscribers will now recieve warhammer visions not white dwarf or white dwarf visions for no extra charge.

I think they are still fearing the backlash from some of their official previews and whatnot, the War Mumak comes to mind, which made a lot of people very passionate about expressing their opinion when a green was spotted with Peter Jackson.

 dsteingass wrote:
I don't understand why leaks bother them so much. It creates buzz, which creates sales.

Because they don't control it, and GW is all about control.

So it's to justify the existence and the budget of a legal department?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dsteingass wrote:
I don't understand why leaks bother them so much. It creates buzz, which creates sales.

Because they don't control it, and GW is all about control.

And skulls.

Hopefully it's an improvement over the current product.

This monthly will need to be good for £7.50

I asked my FLGS about this, he's as surprised as us about this and really hoping the new release schedule isn't true.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This is Games "Limited Edition Space Hulk" Workshop, remember?

Would you qualify this then as cynicism?

Kroot, dude, pal. Your posts in the last 6 months or so have transmuted from what could be considered "healthy cynic" into something that more closely resembles some sort of an attempt at parodying a stereotypical GW hater.

I put it down to humour failing in translation, but if you really mean what you post, then you're in a fething enormous glass house and really should put all those stones down before somebody gets hurt.

Not an attack, just stating an observation.

 Warboss Hazrat wrote:
Strange thing is, I never got a subscription, until 5 minutes ago, when I realised that if I am going to buy the monthly magazine for whatever inflated price, I might as well get my 12 month subscription in now while it "only" costs £55.

Reading this, and the fact that I was considering doing the same thing (we've been thinking about subscribing anyway) makes me wonder whether this is part of the idea behind the change as well. Hype it for a little while, get people to snap subscribe before the new publication is launched. Makes the numbers look better for Q4 in the likely lull after Christmas.

prankster wrote:

 Warboss Hazrat wrote:
Strange thing is, I never got a subscription, until 5 minutes ago, when I realised that if I am going to buy the monthly magazine for whatever inflated price, I might as well get my 12 month subscription in now while it "only" costs £55.

Reading this, and the fact that I was considering doing the same thing (we've been thinking about subscribing anyway) makes me wonder whether this is part of the idea behind the change as well. Hype it for a little while, get people to snap subscribe before the new publication is launched. Makes the numbers look better for Q4 in the likely lull after Christmas.

Also just considering this. What do we think? Bit of a gamble for me, who would never consider a subscription in wd's current format.

Wait.... What?

I was right??? I'm pretty sure that's never happened to me before.


And £7.50? Yikes. I mean, seriously. Yikes. The monthly magazine was actually sounding quite interesting until I read that. Holy cow.

It's time to take a closer look at my direct debit, then...

From Natfka:




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That works out to 3.75 poundage.


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For those of you not paying attention, that sounds like a price decrease. No one choke on what they are eating now.

That's certainly not £7.50 an issue??

 necronspurs2012 wrote:
All Official

This will be bigger than the current white dwarf but will also be around £7.50 UK price. .

Hmm. Official, eh?

 pretre wrote:
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For those of you not paying attention, that sounds like a price decrease. No one choke on what they are eating now.

That's for the iPad version though?

 fishy bob wrote:

 pretre wrote:
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For those of you not paying attention, that sounds like a price decrease. No one choke on what they are eating now.

That's for the iPad version though?

True, but when have they ever discounted digital?