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**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

filbert wrote:
How do you mean problems? I would suggest you would be lucky to shift more recent issues, say in the last 10 years or so but earlier issues still sell well. I am always buying issues from Ebay for old Epic rules and what-not that were featured.

To say that some of them were worn would be an understatement!

I'll say one thing about WD - it's good for swotting wasps!

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prankster wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Just been through my back catalogue of WD - I've got over 200 issues stacked up in a cupboard. If those fell over, there's a good chance I could be trapped underneath them!

Was planning on having a mass bonfire with an effigy of Kirby on top, because trying to sell them on ebay is a nightmare?

Anybody else had problems selling old WDs on ebay?

Having been looking over the past few days there seems to be a market for the older ones. Though the issue is going to be the time to list them individually, or the shipping to send them in anything other than ones or twos. Unless you sell them as a job lot for collection only, but that limits the money and interest you'll get.

Listing them individually would be a total hassle - all those photos. If I could train a monkey...

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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I've got around 50 WD issues, tried selling them for 40p each, no luck.

Charity shop?

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Ravenous D wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Just been through my back catalogue of WD - I've got over 200 issues stacked up in a cupboard. If those fell over, there's a good chance I could be trapped underneath them!

Was planning on having a mass bonfire with an effigy of Kirby on top, because trying to sell them on ebay is a nightmare?

Anybody else had problems selling old WDs on ebay?

I tried giving them away for free here and I only got messages for the sisters dex one. Burn them all laddy.

Yeah, same here - once I sold the sisters dex, nobody was interested. Shame, cos I have lots of fond memories. Looks like it will be burning, then.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

If advertised correctly, you should have no problem whatsoever selling the WD with the Liber Sororitas (293 UK).

**The Division Of Joy**

I'll quite happily take peoples old white dwarves off them. I mainly have issues 100-200 approx, so if anyone is giving them away then PM me (anti GW tears damaged ones not accepted)

**Azazelx**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

Charity shop?

Yeah, same here - once I sold the sisters dex, nobody was interested. Shame, cos I have lots of fond memories. Looks like it will be burning, then.

Go with the charity shop. While I can see the spiteful towards GW angle with the burning, they already got your money. Better to give them away to a charity shop so someone else can enjoy them without giving GW a cent for them - instead giving some cash to a charity.

**reds8n**

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=12800022

White Dwarf magazine goes weekly!

Saturday 1 February sees the birth of the new, weekly, White Dwarf magazine.

Saturday 1 February sees the birth of the new, monthly, Warhammer: Visions magazine.

Yes, that’s right. We’ll be launching two new magazines on the same day, Saturday 1 February.

White Dwarf, now weekly.

From Saturday 1 February, White Dwarf will be available each and every Saturday exclusively in your local Games Workshop store, Independent Stockist and at games-workshop.com

White Dwarf will contain everything that’s new and exciting in the hobby that week, from news and information on all the week’s other new releases, to new columnists, interviews, painting, modelling, game rules and much more. And the price? The same as a pot of your favourite Citadel paint.

Warhammer: Visions, now monthly.

Warhammer: Visions will be available on the first Saturday every month in your local Games Workshop store, Independent Stockist, games-workshop.com and local newsstands in the UK, Europe and Australia.

Warhammer: Visions is a completely new monthly magazine, also from the White Dwarf team. It’s unlike anything we’ve ever done before and this super high-quality visual feast weighs in at a whopping 236 pages, each and every month.

Just 17 days to go and counting.

After months of planning and hard work, we’re really excited to be able to share this news with you. We were overwhelmed by all the support and feedback you gave us last time we relaunched White Dwarf back in September 2012 (and by your emails and photos that you send us every day – please keep them coming), and we’re even more excited by what we’ve got coming up for you in 2014.

If you can’t wait for Saturday 1 February and want to know more, then your local Games Workshop store manager has more info…

just got to wait for the paint pot price rise then and we're sorted.

**H.B.M.C.**

White Dwarf wrote:We were overwhelmed by all the support and feedback you gave us last time we relaunched White Dwarf back in September 2012...

Is that so? Well the proof will be in the pudding, as they say.

This is clearly one of those "Fool me once..." situations, but even if the new weekly rag is full of actual real content, and not "Buy all our playsets and toys!" bull gak, I dread the idea of new rules on a weekly basis. How the feth is anyone going to keep up with that?

**manrogue**

I spoke to someone from our FLGS last night at our gaming club about this.

He may have confirmed that they had an e-mail pretty much saying the monthly one is a catalog (as if they needed confirming but anyway...) with little actual content.

Sad days indeed, a lot of cancelled white dwarf subscriptions will be happening i think. All 4 of the guys i spoke to who subscribe told me the last update left them massively disappointed and this was the tipping point that will get them to cancel.

**H.B.M.C.**

manrogue wrote:
... the monthly one is a catalog (as if they needed confirming but anyway...) with little actual content.

So... no change then?

(/free kick)

**gianlucafiorentini123**

I'll probably buy one to see what they're like, though I'm not expecting much.

**manrogue**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
manrogue wrote:
... the monthly one is a catalog (as if they needed confirming but anyway...) with little actual content.

So... no change then?

(/free kick)

Yep

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

Also as independents and newsagents in the uk don't seem to get their white dwarfs in till mid week after release whats the point in them stocking the weekly. It will be out of date virtually straight away. Or maybe just a plot to make sure people have to go into a GW store to get it for it to be relevant thus increasing footfall and pressure sale targets.

**reds8n**

Newsagents won't be able to stock the weekly magazine, that will ( in theory) only be available in GW and hobby stores/FLGS -- and from the GW website of course ( which does lead one to wonder if this will see some form of back issues availability ? Might go some way to dealing with rules availability/related issues ?).

**skrulnik**

Wonder what they will do for current subscribers?
Will they get the weekly version for the length of time they expected to get WD? That seems to be the fair way to do it.

I will bet GW will consider the new monthly mag a new one, so wouldn't fall under current subscriptions.

**H.B.M.C.**

reds8n wrote:
Might go some way to dealing with rules availability/related issues ?).

If they release them digitally then that would solve that issue as well.

**Breotan**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
manrogue wrote:
... the monthly one is a catalog (as if they needed confirming but anyway...) with little actual content.
So... no change then?

(/free kick)

Well, one change possibly. Now they have something else they can blame on Fantasy. "The monthly magazine isn't selling at all. More proof that people don't like Fantasy. Time to start phasing out armies."

**Kroothawk**

Is it weekly White Dwarf or weak White Dwarf?

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Kroothawk wrote:
Is it weekly White Dwarf or weak White Dwarf?

I see what you did there.

**prankster**

skrulnik wrote:
Wonder what they will do for current subscribers?
Will they get the weekly version for the length of time they expected to get WD? That seems to be the fair way to do it.

I will bet GW will consider the new monthly mag a new one, so wouldn't fall under current subscriptions.

Last we saw was that subs would carry over to the new monthly magazine rather than the weekly one, though until an existing subscriber gets their letter and confirms that it's still rumour.

If it moves to the weekly one, then I can see it being a better way to go. Though I doubt GW want the hassle of sending out a magazine a week (even a small one) to X thousand subscribers.

**jason1977**

While not a letter from a person who has a sub, GW is offically posting this on thier US web site:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=12800022

Guess this can now be moved from N&R.

Jason

**Avian**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
White Dwarf wrote:We were overwhelmed by all the support and feedback you gave us last time we relaunched White Dwarf back in September 2012...

Is that so? Well the proof will be in the pudding, as they say.

Bringing attention to the fact that you relaunched the thing less than a year and a half ago is surely a daft thing to do, it just highlights that you don't have a clue what you're doing.

**alanmckenzie**

reds8n wrote:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=12800022

....
If you can’t wait for Saturday 1 February and want to know more, then your local Games Workshop store manager has more info…

Has anyone contacted their local GW store manager yet?

**reds8n**

The store managers receive their fuller briefing/details about the changes today.

**Kroothawk**

reds8n wrote:
The store managers receive their fuller briefing/details about the changes today.

Actually, the rumour started when the first store managers were informed.

**techsoldaten**

I spoke with the manager of a local store. He did knew the new magazine was coming but did not know what this meant about my subscription.

**whitehorn**

Smolo82 wrote:
Does anyone know how the Golden Tickets are going to work now?

That's exactly what I am wondering. I bought mine about 3 weeks ago. . .

There is only two options, refund as they can no longer supply the product I have paid for, or honour it and treat them as warhammer vision tickets.
Plus side is they can't legally make me use the tickets and pay the price difference each time. Has to be one of the two options.

**reds8n**

Kroothawk wrote:
reds8n wrote:
The store managers receive their fuller briefing/details about the changes today.

Actually, the rumour started when the first store managers were informed.

And today is the day the store managers have more details sent to them.

Prior to this , even if they've phoned up head office while 2 or 3 people stand there quietly, perhaps on a reasonably busy Saturday afternoon in the 2nd week in January for example, what they're told is that they'll receive fuller details on the 15th of January.

**Ouze**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
How you can split a magazine in half that already has no content is beyond me. You could do something really creative with White Dwarf but that requires investment they aren't willing to put in. It's simply there to directly push product instead of make people enthusiastic about modelling/gaming. It's funny seeing people like xruslanx wearing his ignorance on his sleeve and claiming it was always poor because he read it for a year in 2000 so obviously it's always been that way. I, like many, have White Dwarfs going back to the 80s, there's no 'hindsight playing wonders' needed, you can get one of these old magazines out and see that it's packed full of text, it's got scenarios and new/alternate rules, things to cut out and plans to make stuff. I keep those old magazines because they've got things like templates for scratch building and whole scenarios for roleplaying with all the maps and character stats, or Space Hulk rules and Missions with maps and counters/floor tiles to copy and cut out. The current magazine has twice as many pages and is all white space, there's bugger all to actually read.

When I first started playing in 2009, I ordered a stack of old WD's off ebay. I thought it was an amazing magazine - it was full of stuff like how to build terrain out of foam insulation, custom rules, plans/blueprints for making bunkers out of foamcore, how to make trees out of floral wire and spackle (I actually made these, they look awesome) campaigns, all kinds of cool, crazy stuff. I immediately subscribed to WD. It, of course, sucked. I have no rose-tinted glasses, no fond memories from my boyhood - I didn't even know 40k existed until about 2008, when I picked up Dawn of War on sale somewhere. I can say, I think, fairly and without bias, that WD used to be an incredibly different magazine.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

"Warhammer: Visions is a completely new monthly magazine, also from the White Dwarf team. It’s unlike anything we’ve ever done before and this super high-quality visual feast weighs in at a whopping 236 pages, each and every month."

Still got this dread feeling that 11 of those 256 pages will be directory. I hope I'm wrong....then again, why am I worrying I ain't buying it!

**thenoobbomb**

I don't like that the weekly mag will only be available in GW stores (closest is around 60km from me) and FLGS (closest being around 20-30km away from me). Not nice, there could be some cool rules in it.

**JWhex**

I just dont see either of these magazines lasting very long. Many of the people that are the natural consumers of a GW hobby magazine are openly hostile to GW and the internet is full of painting and modeling articles that are as good and often superior to what GW puts out.

Podcasts, utube battle reports, blogs and forums have filled the void left by the pathetic White Dwarf magazine.

GW is also millking the microtransaction model for rules, which is an indictment against us rather than them for putting up with ridiculous crap.

Times are tough for even good print magazines and GW have not produced a good print magazine forever. The rose-colored glass wearers think various eras of the magazine were a golden age but in truth the magazine has always been uneven and wildly variable from month to month.

My first issue was 100 and i purchased it regularly until a couple of years ago when the price became obscene and the content absurd. I kept buying it too long out of habit even then.