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tag8833 wrote:

 Zande4 wrote:
Since Sean's win I've taken the Deathleaper's Assassin Brood twice for 2 tablings! 1 against Iron Hands and 1 against Orks.

We you the one who got tabled?

Oh no sorry, I phrased that poorly. I pretty much tabled my opponents both games. The Iron Hands conceded at the start of 3 and the Orks conceded at the end of turn 4. I ran a triple Mawloc/Flyrant list against the Marines and a I ran a no Flyrant list against the Orks (They had no anti-air).

The Lictors really do allow you to grab objectives in a pinch.

Deathleapers -D3 Leadership + the -1 Leadership from the formation alongside Psychic Scream did a number on the TH+SE Iron Hands CM Biker.

I don't know if it's me or what, but I've had a tough 2 games with my Deathleaper Assassin Brood. Neither of my games were a stroll in the park.


BTW, I did get Scream in one of my games. However, even wight the -1 LD from the lictors, my opponent was still making his saves for his units (most of which were only LD8 base!).

 jy2 wrote:
I don't know if it's me or what, but I've had a tough 2 games with my Deathleaper Assassin Brood. Neither of my games were a stroll in the park.


BTW, I did get Scream in one of my games. However, even wight the -1 LD from the lictors, my opponent was still making his saves for his units (most of which were only LD8 base!).

Mate, you also tend to play in a tough crowd to beat anyway.

Quick question. In a TAC list is it better to take a carnifex with TL devourers or an Exocine? I'm torn between taking the dakkafex in a pod or an Exocine with a vope. The rest of my army is 2 Flyrants, 2 Crones, rippers and Zopes.

 shamroll wrote:
Quick question. In a TAC list is it better to take a carnifex with TL devourers or an Exocine? I'm torn between taking the dakkafex in a pod or an Exocine with a vope. The rest of my army is 2 Flyrants, 2 Crones, rippers and Zopes.

I would go with Dakkafex. Dakkafex's problem is range. Pod fixes that. Exocrine has better range to begin with, and has AP shooting, but has no place in assault, while Dakkafex can do ok in assault.

 shamroll wrote:
Quick question. In a TAC list is it better to take a carnifex with TL devourers or an Exocine? I'm torn between taking the dakkafex in a pod or an Exocine with a vope. The rest of my army is 2 Flyrants, 2 Crones, rippers and Zopes.

Basically, unless you're thinking you're going up vs terminators without storm shields, a carnifex will out perform an exocrine in almost all cases.

tag8833 wrote:

 shamroll wrote:
Quick question. In a TAC list is it better to take a carnifex with TL devourers or an Exocine? I'm torn between taking the dakkafex in a pod or an Exocine with a vope. The rest of my army is 2 Flyrants, 2 Crones, rippers and Zopes.

I would go with Dakkafex. Dakkafex's problem is range. Pod fixes that. Exocrine has better range to begin with, and has AP shooting, but has no place in assault, while Dakkafex can do ok in assault.

By this same token, would taking a Tyrannocyte JUST for an Exocrine be a good idea? Considering I have synapse support, obviously. I feel as though taking an Exocrine without a pod might not be worth it, as it would have to slug its way down the battlefield. I'm still a bit confused on the Tyrannocyte's role in any list other than heavy Deep Strike lists.

 Zande4 wrote:

tag8833 wrote:

 Zande4 wrote:
Since Sean's win I've taken the Deathleaper's Assassin Brood twice for 2 tablings! 1 against Iron Hands and 1 against Orks.

We you the one who got tabled?

Oh no sorry, I phrased that poorly. I pretty much tabled my opponents both games. The Iron Hands conceded at the start of 3 and the Orks conceded at the end of turn 4. I ran a triple Mawloc/Flyrant list against the Marines and a I ran a no Flyrant list against the Orks (They had no anti-air).

The Lictors really do allow you to grab objectives in a pinch.

Deathleapers -D3 Leadership + the -1 Leadership from the formation alongside Psychic Scream did a number on the TH+SE Iron Hands CM Biker.

Haha literally the exact question I was going to ask when I saw this. Glad to see you're having some success with it (and man, my poor wallet! Although, I really love lictors and am not sorry at all sbout getting more. Plus, totally getting the Deathleaper model as my base Lictors and then going to make Deathleaper even more awesome so he's distinguishable

Journeyman351 wrote:

tag8833 wrote:

 shamroll wrote:
Quick question. In a TAC list is it better to take a carnifex with TL devourers or an Exocine? I'm torn between taking the dakkafex in a pod or an Exocine with a vope. The rest of my army is 2 Flyrants, 2 Crones, rippers and Zopes.

I would go with Dakkafex. Dakkafex's problem is range. Pod fixes that. Exocrine has better range to begin with, and has AP shooting, but has no place in assault, while Dakkafex can do ok in assault.

By this same token, would taking a Tyrannocyte JUST for an Exocrine be a good idea? Considering I have synapse support, obviously. I feel as though taking an Exocrine without a pod might not be worth it, as it would have to slug its way down the battlefield. I'm still a bit confused on the Tyrannocyte's role in any list other than heavy Deep Strike lists.

I don't think anyone has really figured out the Tyrannocyte yet. It is truely a different beast than the mycetic spore, and it has different strategic opportunities and challenges. I wouldn't be so sure that a heavy deep strike list is the way to go, when the Deep strike method costs 100 points per unit.

My instincts are telling me that we want one of 2 things coming out of a Tyrannocyte. Option #1: Something that pops out and alpha strikes something in the backfield. Examples of this (Devourer Termagants, Dakkafexes, Theoretically Warriors or Zoenthrope)
Option #2: Something that pops out, and is a backfield disruption that is hard to deal with. Examples of this (Tyrannofex, Gants, potentially a Dimacharon, Toxicrine, Tervigon, or Stone Crusher). I'm not really seeing where Exocrine fits in here. He can alpha strike a bit, but isn't going to kill a unit, just weaken it. He is tough, but not near as tough as a Tyrannofex. My instinctual reaction is that Exocrines will continue to be a backfield unit.

My initial instinct tells me that one and only one is the way to go, with a Fex popping up backfield. That said, further games are the only way to be sure.

 Iechine wrote:
My initial instinct tells me that one and only one is the way to go, with a Fex popping up backfield. That said, further games are the only way to be sure.

Of course, now with a new detachment AND SIX FORMATIONS (wow!) things are going to change again. Who knows if any of them will be good (GW got 3 out of their first 15 right if you ask me). But this whirlwind of change that we've been riding for the last few weeks still has at least one more week to go before we can look at the entire picture (if that even is the entire picture after next week)


Totally unrelated topic, just finished assembling one of the two Tyrannocytes I got today. Absolutely stunning model. Whatever shortcomings GW has as a rules company, they do make beautiful models. I assembled it with the flaps extended out like the Sporocyst and I think it looks super awesome. And the Mucolid will definitely be really easy to make some green stuff tentacles for. Detail won't be amazing on the tentacles, but that's just because I have the artistic skills of a two-year-old when it comes to execution. It is going to be a huge pain to transport, but I think that the flaps extending out will give some good support to the sideways tentacles. I would probably have magnetized those tentacles otherwise.

Finally, I think I will magnetize the top and bottom pieces (the main ones) for the second one so that it literally can be a Russian doll and have something actually be inside of it for a game. I'm thinking a Lictor. Or maybe doing an actual diorama of something....maybe a space marine slowly dying inside a digestion pool....

tag8833 wrote:

Journeyman351 wrote:

tag8833 wrote:

 shamroll wrote:
Quick question. In a TAC list is it better to take a carnifex with TL devourers or an Exocine? I'm torn between taking the dakkafex in a pod or an Exocine with a vope. The rest of my army is 2 Flyrants, 2 Crones, rippers and Zopes.

I would go with Dakkafex. Dakkafex's problem is range. Pod fixes that. Exocrine has better range to begin with, and has AP shooting, but has no place in assault, while Dakkafex can do ok in assault.

By this same token, would taking a Tyrannocyte JUST for an Exocrine be a good idea? Considering I have synapse support, obviously. I feel as though taking an Exocrine without a pod might not be worth it, as it would have to slug its way down the battlefield. I'm still a bit confused on the Tyrannocyte's role in any list other than heavy Deep Strike lists.

I don't think anyone has really figured out the Tyrannocyte yet. It is truely a different beast than the mycetic spore, and it has different strategic opportunities and challenges. I wouldn't be so sure that a heavy deep strike list is the way to go, when the Deep strike method costs 100 points per unit.

My instincts are telling me that we want one of 2 things coming out of a Tyrannocyte. Option #1: Something that pops out and alpha strikes something in the backfield. Examples of this (Devourer Termagants, Dakkafexes, Theoretically Warriors or Zoenthrope)
Option #2: Something that pops out, and is a backfield disruption that is hard to deal with. Examples of this (Tyrannofex, Gants, potentially a Dimacharon, Toxicrine, Tervigon, or Stone Crusher). I'm not really seeing where Exocrine fits in here. He can alpha strike a bit, but isn't going to kill a unit, just weaken it. He is tough, but not near as tough as a Tyrannofex. My instinctual reaction is that Exocrines will continue to be a backfield unit.

Exocrine comes down with BS4 since he didn't move, and makes it much harder for his target to claim cover with that mobility. It also secures his fairly short range high power specialist weapon to get in range, and him avoiding getting killed before he uses it as he is a little bit of a glass cannon at 34 per wound. I think there is far worse things to put in a pod than an Exocrine and he definitely synergises well with DS entry.


His impact can be just as big as a drop-podding Carnifex in fact much larger against the right targets (targets that would otherwise eat a gakload of Dakka), and he does it far more reliably than the Mawloc. I think he's a good option.

Disembarking is movement, so if he comes down in a Tyrannocyte he cannot claim the BS4 the turn he arrived.

 Redemption wrote:
Disembarking is movement, so if he comes down in a Tyrannocyte he cannot claim the BS4 the turn he arrived.

Oh Ok. Well that's annoying - but I guess no worse off then walking it up the board still. Thanks for rules clarification.

luke1705 wrote:

 Iechine wrote:
My initial instinct tells me that one and only one is the way to go, with a Fex popping up backfield. That said, further games are the only way to be sure.

Of course, now with a new detachment AND SIX FORMATIONS (wow!) things are going to change again. Who knows if any of them will be good (GW got 3 out of their first 15 right if you ask me). But this whirlwind of change that we've been riding for the last few weeks still has at least one more week to go before we can look at the entire picture (if that even is the entire picture after next week)


Totally unrelated topic, just finished assembling one of the two Tyrannocytes I got today. Absolutely stunning model. Whatever shortcomings GW has as a rules company, they do make beautiful models. I assembled it with the flaps extended out like the Sporocyst and I think it looks super awesome. And the Mucolid will definitely be really easy to make some green stuff tentacles for. Detail won't be amazing on the tentacles, but that's just because I have the artistic skills of a two-year-old when it comes to execution. It is going to be a huge pain to transport, but I think that the flaps extending out will give some good support to the sideways tentacles. I would probably have magnetized those tentacles otherwise.

Finally, I think I will magnetize the top and bottom pieces (the main ones) for the second one so that it literally can be a Russian doll and have something actually be inside of it for a game. I'm thinking a Lictor. Or maybe doing an actual diorama of something....maybe a space marine slowly dying inside a digestion pool....

Real quick question, in cm how tall is the Tyrannocyte, and whats the diameter of the base?

Base is supposed to be a new 100mm size.

Not kidding.

 gigasnail wrote:
Base is supposed to be a new 100mm size.

Not kidding.

Wow. That makes me feel a bit better about the price tag now. Looks like a fun kit with lots of options.

So what is the base of a Mucolid then?

The Mucolid is on a 40 mm base. The Tyrannocyte is on the new 100mm circle base size. The Tyrannocyte is 22.2 centimeters tall (8.75 in). It's surprisingly study for the height and small width near the bottom because it's almost perfectly symmetric

Unboxing the Tyrannocyte:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrPhNKXlJ8E

Must... Fight off urge... To buy more plastic crack. I still have so much of my army unpainted and I have a mighty need for a Toxicrene, two Tyrannocytes, a Dimachaeron and the new box of vopes/zopes when it drops.

Size comparison. SO. MANY. PIECES. Beautiful model though

Speaking of sizes, I want to finish up the basing of my Lictor conversions and make them legit (sizing wise). I don't actually own a model, can anyone give me the height of the model? And what size base its on?

 SHUPPET wrote:
Speaking of sizes, I want to finish up the basing of my Lictor conversions and make them legit (sizing wise). I don't actually own a model, can anyone give me the height of the model? And what size base its on?

40mm, and slightly bigger than a warrior:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2ir4u2g.jpg

Thanks a bunch redemption!

I started to put mine together yesterday and instead opened a bottle of wine and cooked the rest of the afternoon. Now its 5:51 in the morning and its over there on the table guilt tripping me.

So many pieces : /

Here's some light box pics of that Dimachaeron, he's already doing good on ebay which means more bugs in the future for me. I've got three Malanthropes on the way, and Ill do three different schemes. Does anyone ACTUALLY field Tyranids painted in official Hive Fleet colors in your meta's? I've personally never seen anything like Behemoth or Kraken, I think bug players prefer to do their own fleet.

 Iechine wrote:
I started to put mine together yesterday and instead opened a bottle of wine and cooked the rest of the afternoon. Now its 5:51 in the morning and its over there on the table guilt tripping me.

So many pieces : /

Here's some light box pics of that Dimachaeron, he's already doing good on ebay which means more bugs in the future for me. I've got three Malanthropes on the way, and Ill do three different schemes. Does anyone ACTUALLY field Tyranids painted in official Hive Fleet colors in your meta's? I've personally never seen anything like Behemoth or Kraken, I think bug players prefer to do their own fleet.

Spoiler:

The one other Nid player I commonly see in my local has the yellow and red codex colour scheme, so there's that I guess.


Really nice Dima btw

 Iechine wrote:
I started to put mine together yesterday and instead opened a bottle of wine and cooked the rest of the afternoon. Now its 5:51 in the morning and its over there on the table guilt tripping me.

So many pieces : /

Here's some light box pics of that Dimachaeron, he's already doing good on ebay which means more bugs in the future for me. I've got three Malanthropes on the way, and Ill do three different schemes. Does anyone ACTUALLY field Tyranids painted in official Hive Fleet colors in your meta's? I've personally never seen anything like Behemoth or Kraken, I think bug players prefer to do their own fleet.

Spoiler:

Looks incredible! How many hours did you put into it?

Can any one else the Predator resemblance in the first picture?

SHUPPET wrote:
The one other Nid player I commonly see in my local has the yellow and red codex colour scheme, so there's that I guess.


Really nice Dima btw

Thanks man. I dont have any bugs at my local store that are painted besides mine. Hopefully this Dima will find a nice forever home to assault some Space Marines in. I simply foster them.

Eldercaveman wrote:
Looks incredible! How many hours did you put into it?

Can any one else the Predator resemblance in the first picture?

Right around 13 from assembly to dull coat. I could have done it much faster but my daughter was sick this past week so it was constant interruptions, ordinarily I'm a speed painter.

luke1705 wrote:
Size comparison. SO. MANY. PIECES. Beautiful model though

Thanks so much for that pic. It made me consider a conversion: