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willb2064 wrote:
I'm gutted the Empire Landship was discontinued before I had a chance to buy one.

Same here, ever since I first saw it I've always meant to buy it. I nearly got it last month too but opted for marines.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

willb2064 wrote:
I'm gutted the Empire Landship was discontinued before I had a chance to buy one.

Same here, ever since I first saw it I've always meant to buy it. I nearly got it last month too but opted for marines.

Hm sounds like it doesn't matter then since it doesn't seem like you were going to buy it either way :p So many more useful minis to spend tons of money on than a landship that is pretty terrible in the rules.

Never understood why they don't let folk know in advance that they're going to discontinue a kit, it could only have positive outcomes for them; either they sell out of the remaining stock quicker and so can dispose of the moulds and free up space for new stuff sooner, or they get such an unexpectedly high surge they realise there's more demand there than they thought and can do a couple of final limited runs to wring the maximum possible revenue out of the moulds before they're retired.

Just letting the last bit of stock sit there slowly ticking down over a long period and then quietly taking down the entry on the site just frustrates and annoys people and uses up their storage space unnecessarily.

Dammit, I'd love to start a Tallarn army, but (current budget restrictions aside) I was never going to do it when I could only get half of the models. They've been running with only a partial range for years now.

Lesson: if you want to sell any models, you have to have every model available!

sockwithaticket wrote:
This isn't really the place for the debate, but, basically, my problem with 'nids missile weapons is not that they have them, rather that they look like guns they're holding rather than organic parts of them that happen to shoot projectiles.

I've always seen that as an aspect of the fact that Tyranids copy good ideas as they evolve. Tyranids are all about head-butting a wall until their head becomes so hard that the wall breaks, and with each new obstacle they've faced they've come up with a new solution to overcome it. Some solutions are one-offs, but those that aren't go into "general production" (for lack of a better term) and become standard. The idea that they'd copy some of the form as well as the function of the enemies they face doesn't strike me as all that outlandish, so some of their guns having "magazines" that aren't really magazines (but perhaps breeding chambers shaped like magazines) seems pretty normal.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Never understood why they don't let folk know in advance that they're going to discontinue a kit, it could only have positive outcomes for them; either they sell out of the remaining stock quicker and so can dispose of the moulds and free up space for new stuff sooner, or they get such an unexpectedly high surge they realise there's more demand there than they thought and can do a couple of final limited runs to wring the maximum possible revenue out of the moulds before they're retired.

Just letting the last bit of stock sit there slowly ticking down over a long period and then quietly taking down the entry on the site just frustrates and annoys people and uses up their storage space unnecessarily.

You could email them about that and they might actually listen to you, they seem like they'd be a bit more open to suggestion than GW proper.

wow, lots of cool stuff coming, VERY excited

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I've always seen that as an aspect of the fact that Tyranids copy good ideas as they evolve. Tyranids are all about head-butting a wall until their head becomes so hard that the wall breaks, and with each new obstacle they've faced they've come up with a new solution to overcome it. Some solutions are one-offs, but those that aren't go into "general production" (for lack of a better term) and become standard. The idea that they'd copy some of the form as well as the function of the enemies they face doesn't strike me as all that outlandish, so some of their guns having "magazines" that aren't really magazines (but perhaps breeding chambers shaped like magazines) seems pretty normal.

That's actually a good explanation.

I only speak two languages, so I was wondering what the proper pronunciation of Dimachaeron is in english?

 Iechine wrote:
I only speak two languages, so I was wondering what the proper pronunciation of Dimachaeron is in english?

Dye-ma-kay-ron? Dime-ah-chay-run(the "ch" is like "och" in Scots rather than the "ch" in "cheese")? Dyemachay-ron?(in this case, like "cheese") Something like that I think. Hell a lot of folk still argue over how to pronounce Chimera

I've been pronouncing it as Dime-ah-kay-ron.

I've always thought Chimera was Kai-meer-ah.

 Kirasu wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

willb2064 wrote:
I'm gutted the Empire Landship was discontinued before I had a chance to buy one.

Same here, ever since I first saw it I've always meant to buy it. I nearly got it last month too but opted for marines.

Hm sounds like it doesn't matter then since it doesn't seem like you were going to buy it either way :p So many more useful minis to spend tons of money on than a landship that is pretty terrible in the rules.

Not sure where you're getting that idea from.

Because you purchased Space Marines instead of the land ship, of course. Everyone has desire but if its not *above* other wants then it doesn't really matter because it never is actualized.

I've been playing warhammer long enough to hear the phrase "I really want that FW item.. but..." It just most likely doesn't matter if it was discontinued or not, there will always be something more useful to spend limited income on.

 Iechine wrote:
I only speak two languages, so I was wondering what the proper pronunciation of Dimachaeron is in english?

Going from the root of the word (the gladiator armed with two swords, dimachaerus) I'd guess it'd be Di (as in diametrically, diagonal ect from the latin, loaned from Greek) Machari (like machete, which again comes from the latin) On.

So Di-mach-ari-on I guess (note, I no nothing of latin grammar, pronunciation or accent so take with salt)

Google translate gives machaera as latin for Saber.

NNNEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDD!

Nah, good work koppo. Di-mach-ari-on makes heaps of sense as far as pronunciation goes.

 Kirasu wrote:
Because you purchased Space Marines instead of the land ship, of course. Everyone has desire but if its not *above* other wants then it doesn't really matter because it never is actualized.

I've been playing warhammer long enough to hear the phrase "I really want that FW item.. but..." It just most likely doesn't matter if it was discontinued or not, there will always be something more useful to spend limited income on.

But how does buying something else instead mean I was never going to buy it? I also was thinking about buying a Fellblade but bought some infantry instead, doesn't mean I'll never buy a Fellblade.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Because you purchased Space Marines instead of the land ship, of course. Everyone has desire but if its not *above* other wants then it doesn't really matter because it never is actualized.

I've been playing warhammer long enough to hear the phrase "I really want that FW item.. but..." It just most likely doesn't matter if it was discontinued or not, there will always be something more useful to spend limited income on.

But how does buying something else instead mean I was never going to buy it? I also was thinking about buying a Fellblade but bought some infantry instead, doesn't mean I'll never buy a Fellblade.

Well, it does and it doesn't.

If you don't buy something now, it might not be available to buy later, especially if many do the same.

No perceived/actual demand = no reason to keep it stocked.

I have to be honest though, I straight up FORGOT the Landship existed as Warhammer stuff doesn't exactly stand out anymore, either at FW/WF or GW...

When the feth is Vulkan gonna be up for pre-order ughhh. MUST GIVE THEM MY MONEY

 Alpharius wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Because you purchased Space Marines instead of the land ship, of course. Everyone has desire but if its not *above* other wants then it doesn't really matter because it never is actualized.

I've been playing warhammer long enough to hear the phrase "I really want that FW item.. but..." It just most likely doesn't matter if it was discontinued or not, there will always be something more useful to spend limited income on.

But how does buying something else instead mean I was never going to buy it? I also was thinking about buying a Fellblade but bought some infantry instead, doesn't mean I'll never buy a Fellblade.

Well, it does and it doesn't.

If you don't buy something now, it might not be available to buy later, especially if many do the same.

No perceived/actual demand = no reason to keep it stocked.

I have to be honest though, I straight up FORGOT the Landship existed as Warhammer stuff doesn't exactly stand out anymore, either at FW/WF or GW...

I can understand why FW wouldn't keep it on, if they're not going to make any money there's no point in keeping it and that by not buying I'm risking it not being available later on. But I just don't see how not buying something now, means I don't intend to buy it later.






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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
When the feth is Vulkan gonna be up for pre-order ughhh. MUST GIVE THEM MY MONEY

Probably this week or next week.

 Snrub wrote:
I've been pronouncing it as Dime-ah-kay-ron.

I've always thought Chimera was Kai-meer-ah.

Me too!

It's not a shimera
It's not shaos
It's not dimasheron

It's Dee ma ka ron

:]

If it feels that important, why don't you just call or email FW? Those guys usually reply to almost any questions you have relating to their products.

I still say Chim-(as in chimney)-er-ah.

 STC_LogisEngine wrote:
If it feels that important, why don't you just call or email FW? Those guys usually reply to almost any questions you have relating to their products.

It's not that important, it was just the topic of discussion so I figured id "shime" in.

It would only be acceptable to call it a dimasheron if Sean Connery played 40k.

Sho.... Yesh....

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I still say Chim-(as in chimney)-er-ah.

There was a kid at my high school who pronounced it shim-ar-ah.

He also pronounced minotaur as mine-ah-tar. Only person I've ever encountered who didn't pronounce the word as min-oh-tor.

 Wilson wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
I've been pronouncing it as Dime-ah-kay-ron.

I've always thought Chimera was Kai-meer-ah.

Me too!

It's not a shimera
It's not shaos
It's not dimasheron

It's Dee ma ka ron

:]

While nothing new is coming out of FW, we may as well keep churning this over.

If it was Dee ma ka ron where are you getting that 2nd "K" sound from?

Breaking it up phonetically in the way you have there:

Di ma chae ron

The Di/Dee I'd think incorrect as it is Di as in diagonal, Diametrically, Diameter and sound like the word "Die"

The chae/ka I'd also think incorrect as "ch" is not "k" as it would be from the same root as machete which is not pronounced "Ma Kety" but more like the "mach" from "machine".

It's faux greek so the chae would be a harsh k sound, no?

 Shandara wrote:
It's faux greek so the chae would be a harsh k sound, no?

No, it's latin from the Gladiator type. The actual historical thing Dimachaerus though taken from the greek seems not to have the K sound (μάχαιρα) although I am basing the "mach" on the modern pronunciation of the word Machete and what google translate used as the sound so any cunning linguists out there can correct me.

wiktionary gives the pronunciation as
(5th BC Attic): IPA: /mákʰa͜ɪra/
(1st BC Egyptian): IPA: /mákʰɛːra/
(4th AD Koine): IPA: /máxera/
(10th AD Byzantine): IPA: /máçera/
(15th AD Constantinopolitan): IPA: /máçeɾa/

The Gladiator type was (according to Wiki) popular around the 2nd-4th century AD so it'd be máxera so a softer K? particularly in the latin?

 Snrub wrote:

He also pronounced minotaur as mine-ah-tar. Only person I've ever encountered who didn't pronounce the word as min-oh-tor.

You obviously never saw Your Highness, then.

Mmmmm.

Well, the Cerastus-Castrigator will be for sale at Gencon, so it should be avalible for pre-order soon.. oh yesh.. Vulcan too.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

I can understand why FW wouldn't keep it on, if they're not going to make any money there's no point in keeping it and that by not buying I'm risking it not being available later on. But I just don't see how not buying something now, means I don't intend to buy it later.

I know that when I went to get a trio of the Mk. II upgrade kits for the Wave Serpents in my battle force boxes, so I could have all my tanks match the 2nd hand Scorpion Mk. II I'd picked up earlier, I was told they were no longer available - not actually discontinued, just not being sold alone anymore, if I wanted them or a Falcon one I'd have to buy the complete set and get a whole new Wave Serpent along with it. Kind of annoying, because I'd been waiting for the right opportunity to get rhem and suddenly nope, can't do it anymore, no warning.