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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 04:40:43
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Myrmidon Officer
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Games Workshop Germany seems to rumored to be next on the chopping block. Also, GW US and GW France are now wholly subservient to GW UK.
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/01/games-workshop-germany-shut-down.html
Something big is underway in response to yesterday's semi-annual report and stock losses resulting in what looks like Games Workshop Germany Headquarters is shutting down. US and France will be effected as well. This will place stores under direct leadership of GW UK.
Please remember that this is considered a rumor until we know more information and something official is announced. The origins of this are in German from the site Brueckenkopf online, and I have a translated version of it below.
via Dennis on Brueckenkopf online
http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=98657
As we have just learned that, Games Workshop Germany will shut down and the leadership of the German shops to England.
From this measure are also Games Workshop France and the USA affected. According to our source, the employment contracts of the employees were dissolved in the HQs as a result, with some probably the choice was woks to move or discontinue to UK.
The chain of stores is placed under the direct leadership of Games Workshop UK in Nottingham. Here are sure to report in the next week, the new boss in the stores, as they are currently without contact.
This change was apparently already on 16 January 2014 at the same time implemented with the announcement of the results of the semi-annual report.
Seems that there's still gallons of fat to trim before Kirby et al find the common denominator.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 04:52:50
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Gee I wonder why this could be..
/unenthusiastic sarcasm
For the first 10 pages of the financial report thread it was fun for those of us that have been preaching doom and gloom getting some validation but this is starting to get sad. I mean really, the entire US branch is now just a division of GW HQ in the UK? Nothing we've heard in the last few days is anything other than more of the same crap that landed GW in this mess in the first place.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 04:54:25
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Norn Queen
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I wouldn't call resorting to laying off middle management as gallons of fat. When you get to this point thing are generally pretty dire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 04:56:12
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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Commissar Kirby strikes again!
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There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 04:58:37
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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-Loki- wrote:I wouldn't call resorting to laying off middle management as gallons of fat. When you get to this point thing are generally pretty dire.
A local HQ in a country different from the one you started in helps deal within the laws and regional differences of that market. It also gives employees a closer resource for help and guidance.
Axing it will save money, yes. But it will also undermine the integrity of those who work in that country as well as make it difficult to operate, especially if situations arise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 05:23:44
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Norn Queen
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WarOne wrote: -Loki- wrote:I wouldn't call resorting to laying off middle management as gallons of fat. When you get to this point thing are generally pretty dire.
A local HQ in a country different from the one you started in helps deal within the laws and regional differences of that market. It also gives employees a closer resource for help and guidance.
Axing it will save money, yes. But it will also undermine the integrity of those who work in that country as well as make it difficult to operate, especially if situations arise.
Ummm that's what I meant. It's not gallons of fat, it's cutting the bone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 05:34:32
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Wraith
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More Great News (TM)!
To be less sarcastic, though, this is getting sad. Are there any multinational corporations that run their business centrally, without any sort of local HQ? Is that what's happening? Cuz that's what it seems like. This will save them money in the short-term but I can't imagine it's going to help long-term. We'll have to see what the full year report looks like but unless something drastic happens this seems like using a cellophane wrapper to perform field triage on a sucking chest wound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 11:48:03
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Anyone else feel like they're watching David Attenborough?
"As food grows scarce, the pride of managers turns to cannibalism. The alpha male chooses a victim and they are devoured, to sate the pride's hunger for a little while longer."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:11:27
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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More centralised control sounds like a good idea, but the US and the UK are so completely different in terms of population distribution and demographics that I just don't see how GWUK can effectively (micro)manage GWUS from half the world away.
Of course, this could lead to a "Boston Tea Party" situation, with GW managers dumping crates of FineCost into the harbour whilst screaming "No price rises without representation!".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:25:36
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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Now that would be a funny site to see :')
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'A good kill Juve, but not worthy of a Red Coat yet'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 14:37:59
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Dakka Veteran
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Wonder whos buying hasbro or mattel?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 14:42:11
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Fixture of Dakka
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Where's Kroot at? I figured he'd be in here in the first few posts.
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 15:02:12
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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H.B.M.C. wrote:More centralised control sounds like a good idea, but the US and the UK are so completely different in terms of population distribution and demographics that I just don't see how GWUK can effectively (micro)manage GWUS from half the world away.
Of course, this could lead to a "Boston Tea Party" situation, with GW managers dumping crates of FineCost into the harbour whilst screaming "No price rises without representation!".
Surely having GW UK in direct control of the US stores is a good thing, it's not like the UK policies being forced on a non UK market are one of the big reasons GW into this mess in the first place, right?
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 16:10:48
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Fixture of Dakka
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I wonder where all the white knights are, proclaiming that this is good news.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 16:16:32
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Fixture of Dakka
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More like it's trimming what little perceived fat remains before the end of year financials.
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 17:10:19
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, this is really bad news. I enjoyed playing in the Drakenburg, the German HQ in Düsseldorf.
Not sure if products translated to German will be affected (Codexes, etc.).
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 17:13:01
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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wuestenfux wrote:Well, this is really bad news. I enjoyed playing in the Drakenburg, the German HQ in Düsseldorf. Not sure if they will close it also.
According to Bruckenkopf the lease on the Drakenburg is already running out and and isn't going to be renewed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 17:22:09
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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VyRa wrote: wuestenfux wrote:Well, this is really bad news. I enjoyed playing in the Drakenburg, the German HQ in Düsseldorf. Not sure if they will close it also.
According to Bruckenkopf the lease on the Drakenburg is already running out and and isn't going to be renewed.
This is actually bad news. I guess that the ToS tournament in Germany to be held in the Drakenburg will also be reconsidered.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 19:18:46
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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agnosto wrote:Where's Kroot at? I figured he'd be in here in the first few posts.
I was wondering the same thing.
Someone has got to hand out the pitchforks and torches on site though, right?
Or is that more likely to be... leading the chorus of "I told you so!" down at the pub?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 19:24:11
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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jonolikespie wrote:Gee I wonder why this could be..
/unenthusiastic sarcasm
For the first 10 pages of the financial report thread it was fun for those of us that have been preaching doom and gloom getting some validation but this is starting to get sad. I mean really, the entire US branch is now just a division of GW HQ in the UK? Nothing we've heard in the last few days is anything other than more of the same crap that landed GW in this mess in the first place.
You're right.
In the past, I've thought that people who love predicting doom and gloom overdid it. But cutting, to try and restore profit against falling sales, is a classic, foolish, ill-thought out move. They should be trying to increase sales, not cut costs.. moves like this are likely to launch a death spiral, and will kill the company sooner.
I think a lot of the negativity about GW has been unfair, because there are a lot of talented people, and a lot of creativity in the company. But this obsession with cuts seems to show they are really lions led by donkeys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 19:26:48
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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If they close the store, the independent game shop that is literally 2 minutes walk away will be happy. There are a few places selling GW products in the vicinity that will be pleased, I imagine.
Shame though- it's the nicest GW store I've ever been in, with a huge gaming space and some excellent displays, not to mention very friendly staff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 19:39:53
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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agnosto wrote:Where's Kroot at? I figured he'd be in here in the first few posts.
I was at work, then reading the news, then rereading my thread "Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?" from September http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/550322.page and all the replys calling me crazy, out of my mind and a GW hater
I will make a more substantial reply when I have thought all this over.
Anyone still doubting my theory of GW in a state of powershrinking?
wuestenfux wrote:Not sure if products translated to German will be affected (Codexes, etc.).
The German translation team has been disbanded a while ago, replaced by one or more persons in Nottingham. So it already IS reduced to the bare minimum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 19:49:54
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Well, at least I had fun playing Games Workshop games throughout my entire adolescence and early adult life. It's not like kids these days are going to play anything that isn't on a phone or tablet, anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 20:48:25
Subject: Re:GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Civil War Re-enactor
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GW Amsterdam closed shop today apparently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 20:51:35
Subject: Re:GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sorry to hear all this.
I hope some bright sparks out there will take up the mantle and provide good quality Independent gaming stores in the wake of this and offer a great range of games including GW's... Providing GW doesn't make it too hard for them to do so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 21:14:26
Subject: Re:GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Tom Kirby had to make a tough decision: Keep GW USA, GW Germany, GW France, GW Netherlands ... or keep his yearly income of £ 1.3 Mio . Someone had to pay for Kim Il Kirby's dumb business decisions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 21:33:56
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kroothawk wrote:agnosto wrote:Where's Kroot at? I figured he'd be in here in the first few posts.
I was at work, then reading the news, then rereading my thread "Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?" from September http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/550322.page and all the replys calling me crazy, out of my mind and a GW hater
I will make a more substantial reply when I have thought all this over.
Anyone still doubting my theory of GW in a state of powershrinking?
wuestenfux wrote:Not sure if products translated to German will be affected (Codexes, etc.).
The German translation team has been disbanded a while ago, replaced by one or more persons in Nottingham. So it already IS reduced to the bare minimum.
Vindication at last!  So, do you have time to stop by the Pitchfork and Torch Emporium on your way home from work?
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 22:05:31
Subject: Re:GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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At the moment it is more a mix of shock, sorrow, and condolence for some of the people I know at the German GW HQ rather than hate and anger.
It is sad that one mad-man can run the company into the ground and there is nobody who stops him.
This is a bad day for tabletop gaming all over the world. I really hate to have been right about this.
Now I am off to watch "Der Untergang": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downfall_%282004_film%29 .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 22:33:04
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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This is sad - condolences to all those who will be losing jobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 22:44:31
Subject: GW Germany HQ Closing Down
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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It's starting to look like the end. The white knights have left us and the black knights are celebrating in the wake of their hideous predictions coming to fruition. Now GW either becomes someone else's property or is wiped out.
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