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 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
First problem is looking at dateable women as "friends."

"Dating" women is different than "hanging out" with them. I don't know about you, but I have literally zero female "just friends." They're either women I've slept with, women I'm currently sleeping with, women I want to sleep with in the future, or women who have friends who I want to sleep with. Otherwise I wouldn't be friends with them in the first place - I have 1,000 more things in common with male peers. Not to say that I wouldn't be "just friends" with a woman, only that I haven't found one in the past 29 years worth being "just friends" with. Social relationships take effort...I'd rather put in less effort and get more out of a friendship with a male peer if its strictly platonic.

So, I cant be friends with a women? I have to see any women I meet as a possible one night tands? Sounds kinda.....WRONG.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, I cant be friends with a women? I have to see any women I meet as a possible one night tands? Sounds kinda.....WRONG.

Of course you can be friends with women, and anyone who says otherwise has no clue what they're talking about.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
First problem is looking at dateable women as "friends."

"Dating" women is different than "hanging out" with them. I don't know about you, but I have literally zero female "just friends." They're either women I've slept with, women I'm currently sleeping with, women I want to sleep with in the future, or women who have friends who I want to sleep with. Otherwise I wouldn't be friends with them in the first place - I have 1,000 more things in common with male peers. Not to say that I wouldn't be "just friends" with a woman, only that I haven't found one in the past 29 years worth being "just friends" with. Social relationships take effort...I'd rather put in less effort and get more out of a friendship with a male peer if its strictly platonic.

So, I cant be friends with a women? I have to see any women I meet as a possible one night tands? Sounds kinda.....WRONG.

Go ahead and do it...just sounds like you're barking up the wrong tree.

My comment had more to do with guys who think that having a girlfriend is basically like having a "bro" that you screw - I'm arguing that the type of relationship a heterosexual man has with other heterosexual men is far different than the type of relationship he can have with nearly any heterosexual woman. If I asked a girl I'm seeing to learn 40k she'd probably laugh, whereas any of my guy friends would be all about it. If I asked her if she'd like to go hunting with me, she'd probably roll her eyes and talk about how she isn't going to murder Bambi. My male friends have already murdered at least one Bambi this season alone.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
First problem is looking at dateable women as "friends."

"Dating" women is different than "hanging out" with them. I don't know about you, but I have literally zero female "just friends." They're either women I've slept with, women I'm currently sleeping with, women I want to sleep with in the future, or women who have friends who I want to sleep with. Otherwise I wouldn't be friends with them in the first place - I have 1,000 more things in common with male peers. Not to say that I wouldn't be "just friends" with a woman, only that I haven't found one in the past 29 years worth being "just friends" with. Social relationships take effort...I'd rather put in less effort and get more out of a friendship with a male peer if its strictly platonic.

So, I cant be friends with a women? I have to see any women I meet as a possible one night tands? Sounds kinda.....WRONG.

Go ahead and do it...just sounds like you're barking up the wrong tree.

My comment had more to do with guys who think that having a girlfriend is basically like having a "bro" that you screw - I'm arguing that the type of relationship a heterosexual man has with other heterosexual men is far different than the type of relationship he can have with nearly any heterosexual woman. If I asked a girl I'm seeing to learn 40k she'd probably laugh, whereas any of my guy friends would be all about it. If I asked her if she'd like to go hunting with me, she'd probably roll her eyes and talk about how she isn't going to murder Bambi. My male friends have already murdered at least one Bambi this season alone.

That's pretty poor advice. It differs from person to person. My girlfriend is pretty much my bestfriend and a bro whom I screw. The relationship really depends on the person you're with.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
First problem is looking at dateable women as "friends."

"Dating" women is different than "hanging out" with them. I don't know about you, but I have literally zero female "just friends." They're either women I've slept with, women I'm currently sleeping with, women I want to sleep with in the future, or women who have friends who I want to sleep with. Otherwise I wouldn't be friends with them in the first place - I have 1,000 more things in common with male peers. Not to say that I wouldn't be "just friends" with a woman, only that I haven't found one in the past 29 years worth being "just friends" with. Social relationships take effort...I'd rather put in less effort and get more out of a friendship with a male peer if its strictly platonic.

So, I cant be friends with a women? I have to see any women I meet as a possible one night tands? Sounds kinda.....WRONG.

Go ahead and do it...just sounds like you're barking up the wrong tree.

My comment had more to do with guys who think that having a girlfriend is basically like having a "bro" that you screw - I'm arguing that the type of relationship a heterosexual man has with other heterosexual men is far different than the type of relationship he can have with nearly any heterosexual woman. If I asked a girl I'm seeing to learn 40k she'd probably laugh, whereas any of my guy friends would be all about it. If I asked her if she'd like to go hunting with me, she'd probably roll her eyes and talk about how she isn't going to murder Bambi. My male friends have already murdered at least one Bambi this season alone.

Huh. Guess that's why I, as a heterosexual male, have heterosexual female friends with neither side interested in having sex - I don't want to shoot Bambi, either!

Even has a non-hunter, You dont shoot bambi or his mom unless you disobey the law(I may be wrong, but you can only hunt bucks right?)
But I love deer. I love that early in the morning I wake up with a sugar cube in my pocket, go to the bus stop and there is a deer there who loves sweets. Thats why I wont shoot one

 Barksdale wrote:
Cheers guys.

That's exactly what I told her in the morning, not to think too much into it. I guess I should follow my own advice. Really looking forward to date #2 in any case.

How did Date #2 go?

This may not mean anything, because she is someone elses GF, but I got kissed on the cheek.
First time I have ever been kissed though by a girl outside my family

She could just see you as cuddle buddy where she doesn't view you in a sexual way but doesn't mind giving hugs, rubbing you body, stroking your hair, etc. Also I wouldn't try to create an intimate relationship with people who are in a relationship already (unless they're in an open one) as it

tends to get uncomfortable/unpleasant fast and ruin the friendship.

Oh I know. The only reason she kissed me was there wasnt room in the car to go to the bars, so I got left behind, being the last one to join the group.

well. i kind of, think, i have a girl friend now. it's not really offcial but we both admitted to having feelings toward each other. *shrug*

 the shrouded lord wrote:
well. i kind of, think, i have a girl friend now. it's not really offcial but we both admitted to having feelings toward each other. *shrug*

Now just teach her how to make proper Reuben and coast on it for the next sixty to seventy years. You're in!

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
I don't know about you, but I have literally zero female "just friends."

While I do agree on everything else you said (especially on the difference between dating girls and hanging out with girls) I beg to differ on that one.

There's this girl... She's quite funny and very nice. She's definitely not my type. We're "just friends".

There's that girl. She's married to one of my friends, and has become a good friend of mine. She's kinda cute, but she's his wife. We're "just friends".

There's this girl... She's quite intelligent, very pretty. I tried to date her... She wasn't interested, but the way she told me so was quite interesting. I felt she was very, very different from all the other girls I've known. She's probably one of my best friends now. We're "just friends" now.

mates girlfriend cuddling up to me in her bikini this arvo, big hugs, tell's me she loves me

Needlees to say it was one of the more uncomfortable moments of my life

 mitch_rifle wrote:
mates girlfriend cuddling up to me in her bikini this arvo, big hugs, tell's me she loves me

Needlees to say it was one of the more uncomfortable moments of my life

Well bro, there's only one thing to do in this kind of situation...


Call Kenny Loggins, cause your in the Danger Zone

Litcheur wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
I don't know about you, but I have literally zero female "just friends."

While I do agree on everything else you said (especially on the difference between dating girls and hanging out with girls) I beg to differ on that one.

There's this girl... She's quite funny and very nice. She's definitely not my type. We're "just friends".

There's that girl. She's married to one of my friends, and has become a good friend of mine. She's kinda cute, but she's his wife. We're "just friends".

There's this girl... She's quite intelligent, very pretty. I tried to date her... She wasn't interested, but the way she told me so was quite interesting. I felt she was very, very different from all the other girls I've known. She's probably one of my best friends now. We're "just friends" now.

Sounds like in some of those cases, you're going to need those ""s.




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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Even has a non-hunter, You dont shoot bambi or his mom unless you disobey the law(I may be wrong, but you can only hunt bucks right?)
But I love deer. I love that early in the morning I wake up with a sugar cube in my pocket, go to the bus stop and there is a deer there who loves sweets. Thats why I wont shoot one

PA and many other states issue anterless tags. You can shoot Bambi and his mom, while his mother's milk is still wet on his lips.

While I haven't read this whole page, I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced something like what I'm going through right now.

The girl I like lives in a different state, pretty far from me. When I did live there we were friends. I did ask her out once, but I was turned down cuz there was another guy in the school who was making it very clear he wanted to date her, but we moved on from that and kinda acted like it didn't happen.
When I visited over the summer we had a pretty good time, and I really started to like her a bit more than a friend again... The issue is that she has a boyfriend who she's been with for a about a year who lives in the UK.
Should I even bother waiting to see if they break up and maybe try a long distance relationship a while afterwards since she clearly doesn't mind it (It's not like I have any friends where I live now, let alone a girlfriend), or just move on and remain "just friends" with her?

(Sorry for how it kinda turned into a wall of text)

Stay friends and look for someone else to have an intimate relationship with.

Yeah, look for romantic relationships elsewhere. At least in the meantime.

Just waiting out other relationships I understand can be very pointless and a waste of time.

Alright thanks. I figured that was the most sensible thing, and I definitely don't want to make it too awkward to the point that she doesn't even talk to me, because right now there are only a few people who are my friends.

Now to go figure out how to get people (women in particular) to talk to me/how to talk to them.

inferno445 wrote:
Alright thanks. I figured that was the most sensible thing, and I definitely don't want to make it too awkward to the point that she doesn't even talk to me, because right now there are only a few people who are my friends.

Now to go figure out how to get people (women in particular) to talk to me/how to talk to them.

Go back to page one of this thread. Be enlightened.

You got to have game. If you know a girl and you see here out at a party or club wait for the eye contact and then give her the whats up nod and approach with a big goofy smile and funny walk.

Be like, "you look super hot." Then tell her you're looking for a girlfriend but you are busy with work or school but that shouldn't matter. Really go into it. If she walks away then she is not interested, but if she listens push it as far as you can, get kinda outrageous and melodramatic. Tell her you think its love at first sight but you don't want to get married anytime this week. Threaten to beg, then start to beg but stop mid beg and claim you have higher standards for yourself then that.

Then when her eyes kinda widen abit and she starts to gasp a little and you see her blushing. Be like, "I mean every word of it, but I'm kind of joking too." Then ask her if she wants to go back to your place and smoke pot and listen to records. The pot and records is kinda key for this approach. If you think she is into you and you are confident, you can also just ask if she wants to go makeout. If she likes you, there ya go. Otherwise just move on. Works for me plenty.

I asked a few girls for numbers recently but nothing seems to work.


Pffff

So, obviously no from her. But I'm not giving up hope. Talk to my roommate. He said a lot of girls now me and think I'm a nice guy in the building

I want to ask out this cute coworker but I found out she has sexual desires towards another coworker who is a tall, handsome, muscular black guy, somehow I feel like I can't compete.

 Cheesecat wrote:
I want to ask out this cute coworker but I found out she has sexual desires towards another coworker who is a tall, handsome, muscular black guy, somehow I feel like I can't compete.

Try it anyway.

Better try and fail than do nothing at all - you never know what might happen.

I'd say try it too, misdirection* is a favorite device of females i have been interested in but too slow to take advantage of.

The whole "i'll make him jealous thing" ...and with me previously we haven't been talking weeks, we have been talking months ....drugs were too much fun

*misdirection is not the same as being told carefully to feth off

 Ouze wrote:

 Barksdale wrote:
Cheers guys.

That's exactly what I told her in the morning, not to think too much into it. I guess I should follow my own advice. Really looking forward to date #2 in any case.

How did Date #2 go?

Actually had to cancel it as I had to make an unexpected trip. Got back last week and saw the beautiful lady though. Unfortunately, it looks like I'm going to be reassigned elsewhere in the country so that's that. We'll keep in contact though as we got on real well. Gave her a Facebook add real quick.

 Peregrine wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, I cant be friends with a women? I have to see any women I meet as a possible one night tands? Sounds kinda.....WRONG.

Of course you can be friends with women, and anyone who says otherwise has no clue what they're talking about.

all of my friends are women... though I have never attempted romantic anything with them (no interest) though i do know they'd never introduce me to any of their friends for the purposes of dating, I know they don't think too highly of me as a male. That much is clear, before they seemed to have a "take me or leave me" attitude then I moved away for 2 years and they seem a bit more enjoying of my company.
I donno if they think one day I'll just start hitting on them, despite the fact I never have in the near 5 years I have known them... Maybe it's because I have attempted to date people and they see me as too low for that, for some reason, at least I have found, if women think you are a low card, they'll tell you for no real reason, even if you never asked.
I donno how many times I've gotten told how awful I was when I asked female friends for dating advice.

So I learned never to ask them advice in any area close to that...
I separate my friends so if I need to drop one, as I often do in my life since I don't seem to gel with people, I can hop to another in a never ending game of friendship leapfrog.
Well it begun when I was about 19, I didn't have friends before that.

Maybe I should get some guy friends and bat for my own team from now on
The few dates I have, while obvious failures, haven't been the same level of failing as my friendships have been...it is all so new to me, as I said prior to my 20s I didn't have friends or try to date... And I am only nearing 26.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, obviously no from her. But I'm not giving up hope. Talk to my roommate. He said a lot of girls now me and think I'm a nice guy in the building

Next time you ask someone else, make sure you don't treat it as a thing. Last time, you Emailed and waited for a response. I don't recommend that.

1. Do it face-to-face.
2. Make it almost a casual toss-off remark.
3. Don;t make it a yes-or-no situation

So, somethign like this. You are both sitting there palying video games so you say....

"You just shot me in the face! I guess you will have to make it up to me over lunch this Friday at XXX place!"

Look at her as you say it. Just a thought.