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But still, my point stands, most of my sketches I send over to my bro in America (he's in university now) and he redesigns them- after all that's his channel. But sketches alone don't impress. That's what I was thinking along with what I said, in the 2nd last post
sure, thanks ketara. Although how do I know she doesn't like my personality, aside from the fact that she would say that to my face?
As, for Skype I haven't tried that yet.
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Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote: But still, my point stands, most of my sketches I send over to my bro in America (he's in university now) and he redesigns them- after all that's his channel. But sketches alone don't impress. That's what I was thinking along with what I said, in the 2nd last post.
Skills are supplementary. If we all had to ride unicycles whilst playing bagpipes to get laid, it would never happen. You don't want her to treat you like you're in a critical art competition, it's just so that she can think, 'How impressive!', or 'How interesting' for twenty five seconds before the subject moves on. If you can play the piano, you might play her favourite songs for half an hour, but that's all that would happen. Skills/hobbies flesh you out as a person and enhance you as a prospect. But that's all. They're only a small part of the 'attractiveness' package, so to speak.
hotsauceman1 wrote: You could show them your miniatures.
That, believe it or nt got alot of girls here talking to me when they come in my room.
Last time I tried showing someone a miniature I was told that it was "wrong" and that I "should be ashamed".
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Why are you even thinking about nonsense like this? It doesn't matter what some abstract "girl around here" stereotype is interested in because you aren't interested in dating an abstract stereotype. It matters what one specific person is interested in. You're never going to get anywhere if you try to appeal to stereotypes instead of real people.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Avatar 720 wrote: Last time I tried showing someone a miniature I was told that it was "wrong" and that I "should be ashamed".
Sounds like that person is just a , and the correct response is an obscene rant followed by never speaking to them again. But hey, at least if you show off your miniatures early you filter out that kind of person as fast as possible so that you don't have to waste any of your valuable time on them.
And for the record: my girlfriend thinks my 40k stuff is awesome, and she was first interested in me (as a friend) because she saw my sketchbook.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Avatar 720 wrote: Last time I tried showing someone a miniature I was told that it was "wrong" and that I "should be ashamed".
Sounds like that person is just a , and the correct response is an obscene rant followed by never speaking to them again. But hey, at least if you show off your miniatures early you filter out that kind of person as fast as possible so that you don't have to waste any of your valuable time on them.
And for the record: my girlfriend thinks my 40k stuff is awesome, and she was first interested in me (as a friend) because she saw my sketchbook.
I was joking. What else could a guy's 'miniature' could refer to.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
sure, thanks ketara. Although how do I know she doesn't like my personality, aside from the fact that she would say that to my face?
Women have certain ingrained reflexive responses to men they're attracted to, like fussing their hair, or blushing when they think they've said something stupid in front of them. But those can all be misread, and at the end of the day, there's no cheat code that will tell you 100%. I've had a girl turn me down before who I thought was into me (I later found out she already had a date with someone else planned, so I may not have misread; it's hard to say). The only way, to know for sure is to ask.
The trick is to realise that asking a girl out is no biggie. But it takes a certain level of panache, experience, and maturity before it becomes easy.
Hygiene, as I mentioned, was drilled in my head by my mother and later by myself.
Oh dear, I bet I made a fool of myself in this thread and look like some weird person with poor social skills and strange hobbies, that stereotypes his peers and asks too many questions.
And really, I don't give a damn about going out with other artists or how my work is perceived really (also asharyia, I didn't realise he was talking about you, so I hope no offence was caused - I don't know you, but if you're an artist,, then I appreciate that. I wasn't implying anything.)
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The only way you ever will have a chance with a girl is to ask her out. There are no tricks or cheat codes or ways to make it more likely (unlike the obvious ones, like being clean and behaving like a good person). There is a chance that she will turn you down, and that might even hurt a bit. But that is a fact of life, and you will get over it. It is not the end of the world if it happens.
There is a lot of good advice in this thread, especially the advice to be honest and up front that you are interested in some one. The other truth is that it is all to easy to project all your dreams and desires on a crush and make that person something she/he is not. If I had a time machine, I would go back in time to beat it in to my 18 year old self. It would have made a couple of years of my life a lot easier.
Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote: Hygiene, as I mentioned, was drilled in my head by my mother and later by myself.
Oh dear, I bet I made a fool of myself in this thread and look like some weird person with poor social skills and strange hobbies, that stereotypes his peers and asks too many questions.
And really, I don't give a damn about going out with other artists or how my work is perceived really (also asharyia, I didn't realise he was talking about you, so I hope no offence was caused - I don't know you, but if you're an artist,, then I appreciate that. I wasn't implying anything.)
Well, Invite her for fish & chips after school.
Or ask if she wants to go visit the queens throne room.
Maybe ask if she wants to make funny faces at those guys with the weird hates.
Just something, you new know if you never try. But dont be like me and a creeper about it and do it over email.
jorny wrote: If I had a time machine, I would go back in time to beat it in to my 18 year old self. It would have made a couple of years of my life a lot easier.
Except, past self would have been too inexperienced to understand what future self is saying. Making mistakes and reevaluation about what went wrong and trying different methods is all part of learning.
Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote: Hygiene, as I mentioned, was drilled in my head by my mother and later by myself.
Oh dear, I bet I made a fool of myself in this thread and look like some weird person with poor social skills and strange hobbies, that stereotypes his peers and asks too many questions.
And really, I don't give a damn about going out with other artists or how my work is perceived really (also asharyia, I didn't realise he was talking about you, so I hope no offence was caused - I don't know you, but if you're an artist,, then I appreciate that. I wasn't implying anything.)
Maybe ask if she wants to make funny faces at those guys with the weird hates.
This seems a little too weird for a first date, actually it sounds like a scene from some quirky indie movie.
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jorny wrote: If I had a time machine, I would go back in time to beat it in to my 18 year old self. It would have made a couple of years of my life a lot easier.
Except, past self would have been too inexperienced to understand what future self is saying. Making mistakes and reevaluation about what went wrong and trying different methods is all part of learning.
Phosis T'Kar Jr wrote: Hygiene, as I mentioned, was drilled in my head by my mother and later by myself.
Oh dear, I bet I made a fool of myself in this thread and look like some weird person with poor social skills and strange hobbies, that stereotypes his peers and asks too many questions.
And really, I don't give a damn about going out with other artists or how my work is perceived really (also asharyia, I didn't realise he was talking about you, so I hope no offence was caused - I don't know you, but if you're an artist,, then I appreciate that. I wasn't implying anything.)
Maybe ask if she wants to make funny faces at those guys with the weird hates.
This seems a little too weird for a first date, actually it sounds like a scene from some quirky indie movie.
You mean you dont get your dating advice from indie movies?
the shrouded lord wrote: no, go movie, then cafe. means that if you panic at the cafe you can small talk about the movie.
Movies seem bad for first dates, the first date (or few of them) is about getting to know the person not about watching "Joaquin Phoenix jerk off into the ocean" and then having a bit of a chat after it's over.
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The only way you ever will have a chance with a girl is to ask her out. There are no tricks or cheat codes or ways to make it more likely (unlike the obvious ones, like being clean and behaving like a good person). There is a chance that she will turn you down, and that might even hurt a bit. But that is a fact of life, and you will get over it. It is not the end of the world if it happens.
There is a lot of good advice in this thread, especially the advice to be honest and up front that you are interested in some one. The other truth is that it is all to easy to project all your dreams and desires on a crush and make that person something she/he is not. If I had a time machine, I would go back in time to beat it in to my 18 year old self. It would have made a couple of years of my life a lot easier.
You mean the Konami Code doesn't work on women? :C
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
Avatar 720 wrote: Last time I tried showing someone a miniature I was told that it was "wrong" and that I "should be ashamed".
Okay Avatar 720, you need to be more careful. For most people, you should show a 40k or Warmachine or WFB model first. Unless you are talking to someone who you already know is pretty kinky, do not show your Kingdom Death miniatures first!
I am sorry, I had missed your message because of reasons :(. Answering now.
Albatross wrote: See, the flipside of my post is that you absolutely MUST talk to someone about it!
I am working on it. I spoke about it earlier in this thread, here. (Not implying that you should or could remember everything everyone said in this thread, I just thought it was interesting to point out my original message about it.) By the way, I have scarcely seen that friend since then (meaning, basically, what, a dozen hours in 4 months? And never just the two of us. Keep in mind we do not live in the same city at all btw.), but next Friday I am going to her PhD defense, and she will now have a LOT more free time, so we will have much more occasion to see each other, so I am quite happy .
I also spoke about it with another friend today.
So, two people now!
Albatross wrote: You're a PhD, correct? I'm guessing you're pretty confident in that area in your life, in your subject.
I am working on a PhD indeed, and I am not confident about it actually. I heard even geniuses suffer from impostor syndrome. For me, it is the same, except nobody is telling me I am a genius anyway.
I know I must feel really really contrarian, but I want you to know I really appreciate that you are helping me and I certainly will try to be more positive. And watch more of this guy's video.
For instance, I am going to mention that as of this evening, out of the 13 women I sent a message to on OkCupid, there were only 3 that did not answer yet, and there is only one of those from whom I actually expected a response. I just got an answer from the very first person I sent a message to, and I am going to meet another one of them face to face tomorrow evening. That is certainly something I can be positive about . Something strange happened though: I started talking with someone because she listed Persian as one of her languages, we had an interesting discussion about place she lived in, I had mentioned I have a Faravahar pendant (offered by previously mentioned very good friend when I met her, the first time I went to Iran, btw), and she had said she has one to, and her last message was telling me “I have put some picture with my faravahar” (paraphrasing and translating from French). But when I saw this message, her account had already been deleted. Do you think those are linked? Maybe her picture was considered too much nudity for the website and they closed the account because of it ? Well, if she does create a new account and contact me, maybe I will know, else I will be forever ignorant about why her account mysteriously disappeared .
Cheesecat wrote: This seems a little too weird for a first date, actually it sounds like a scene from some quirky indie movie.
Your quirky indie movies ain't got anythin' on my quirky indie movies! Anythin', you hear me! In my indie movies, when the super-though vigilante cop remember his late love, his “madeleine de Proust” is a freaking hamburger, because their favorite romantic activity was EATING A DOZEN OF HAMBURGER EACH TOGETHER.
(Sorry, completely off-topic, but that movie was so, SO FREAKING MAD in an awesome way I just had to mention it. I will likely remember this forever! I should even try to replace the expression madeleine de proust with Boujenah's hamburger! If you ever can see it, go for it.)
Side note: I do not advise buying twenty hamburgers for your first date .
I think it can actually be pretty useful, just quite a bit later in the relationship. Wait until they give you access to their input section, man!
And now I feel ashamed for making this joke .
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Ashiraya wrote: It is. It is one of the reasons why I follow this thread - seeing the roads men's thoughts take is interesting.
By the way, do you have any links to some similar resource for women? I was looking at videos from this guy Albatross linked, and they were very, very much targeted at men, and I just thought I would like to see how something similar but designed for women would look like. It was also a bit of the same when I discovered Wizardchan, I asked myself “Is there some kind of female version of Wizardchan?”. It is not to be a creeper or a voyeur, I just like to understand other people, to try to put myself in their shoes. So I can be better with them, and when I say better, I do not mean a manipulative .
Thanks .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
I am sorry, I had missed your message because of reasons :(. Answering now.
Ha, don't worry, that wasn't just aimed at you!
Albatross wrote: See, the flipside of my post is that you absolutely MUST talk to someone about it!
I am working on it. I spoke about it earlier in this thread, here. (Not implying that you should or could remember everything everyone said in this thread, I just thought it was interesting to point out my original message about it.) By the way, I have scarcely seen that friend since then (meaning, basically, what, a dozen hours in 4 months? And never just the two of us. Keep in mind we do not live in the same city at all btw.), but next Friday I am going to her PhD defense, and she will now have a LOT more free time, so we will have much more occasion to see each other, so I am quite happy .
I also spoke about it with another friend today.
So, two people now!
That's cool! Have you considered maybe speaking to a professional? By which I mean a counsellor, not a sex-worker!
Albatross wrote: You're a PhD, correct? I'm guessing you're pretty confident in that area in your life, in your subject.
I am working on a PhD indeed, and I am not confident about it actually. I heard even geniuses suffer from impostor syndrome. For me, it is the same, except nobody is telling me I am a genius anyway.
I know I must feel really really contrarian, but I want you to know I really appreciate that you are helping me and I certainly will try to be more positive. And watch more of this guy's video.
Yeah, he's got some interesting stuff to say. Definitely worth persevering with, even if you don't warm to his style.
And you should be confident about your doctorate! Having been (albeit briefly) offered a similar situation, I know first hand that not everybody can do it. You are clearly skilled in that area.
For instance, I am going to mention that as of this evening, out of the 13 women I sent a message to on OkCupid, there were only 3 that did not answer yet, and there is only one of those from whom I actually expected a response. I just got an answer from the very first person I sent a message to, and I am going to meet another one of them face to face tomorrow evening. That is certainly something I can be positive about . Something strange happened though: I started talking with someone because she listed Persian as one of her languages, we had an interesting discussion about place she lived in, I had mentioned I have a Faravahar pendant (offered by previously mentioned very good friend when I met her, the first time I went to Iran, btw), and she had said she has one to, and her last message was telling me “I have put some picture with my faravahar” (paraphrasing and translating from French). But when I saw this message, her account had already been deleted. Do you think those are linked? Maybe her picture was considered too much nudity for the website and they closed the account because of it ? Well, if she does create a new account and contact me, maybe I will know, else I will be forever ignorant about why her account mysteriously disappeared .
That all sounds like it's heading in the right direction mate, tbh. It's rare to get that many responses. You must have good pictures!
Albatross wrote: Have you considered maybe speaking to a professional? By which I mean a counsellor, not a sex-worker!
Never seriously. Usually I go very bad and then I go better, so I stop thinking about it. Currently I feel better.
I did speak with sex-workers a couple of time, but just long enough to let them know I was not interested.
Albatross wrote: That all sounds like it's heading in the right direction mate, tbh. It's rare to get that many responses. You must have good pictures!
Well, you tell me. I just took the best pictures I had on my computer.
My profile picture
Only a few month old! By the way, do not look at the writings on the white board behind me, it is highly classified!
The others:
Spoiler:
My favorite, but not using it as a profile picture because it is very old (7 years old now!)
5 years old. I should really take some more recent pictures. But I do not feel like I changed much. Also it is the morning and there is sun, as you can see in my eyes!
Two “jokes” picture that are not displayed nearly as prominently as the others:
MOOOOOOORNING! NOOOOOO!
I AM GANGSTA!
Okay, I lied, it is actually theoretical research that most spies would not even care to take with them if it was offered to them .
Now everyone can try to stalk me using reverse image search .
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Never seriously. Usually I go very bad and then I go better, so I stop thinking about it. Currently I feel better.
When you're feeling better is the time to do something. You have the emotional reserves to handle the extra work, instead of desperately trying to avoid failing the everyday stuff.
The others:
This is where you need to aim for quality over quantity. The first of the four is clearly the best, no weird expressions and the technical quality is the best (nice clean background, everything in focus, etc). See if you can duplicate it if you're concerned about the age. The second is just awful, get rid of it. Your expression is weird and the photo quality is terrible (focus is on the cluttered background, way overexposed). You're only hurting yourself by including it. The third one isn't bad if you make sure to include the joke caption and bury it at the end. The last one is just a bad idea, hardly any of you is visible so you're just wasting space with it.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
In dedicato imperatum ultra articulo mortis 
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, and the correct response is an obscene rant followed by never speaking to them again. But hey, at least if you show off your miniatures early you filter out that kind of person as fast as possible so that you don't have to waste any of your valuable time on them.
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? Well, if she does create a new account and contact me, maybe I will know, else I will be forever ignorant about why her account mysteriously disappeared 
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