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2017/10/28 03:46:25
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Eilif wrote: With the star trek models, I wish they'd release the runabout kit again. It'd be a great model for any sci-fi star base.
Kid K's picture shows the size well.
Interestingly I have the action figure version of the lander pictured on the right. It's huge. It's also missing the side wings, but that's ok as I probably would have done away with them anyway for what I have in mind for it.
I found one of those Runabout kits on ebay about 4 years ago for $15. Still unmade, but man does it have potential. The way it fits together makes it perfect for all kinds of mods and kit bashing. The only gripe I have with it is that if I use it as a 40k model, there really isn't a convenient place to put an access door. It would require major cutting of the rear. If it ever gets 40k rules when Fires of Cyraxus gets released, I'd like to convert it into a Custodes flier.
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2017/10/28 04:46:16
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Eilif wrote: With the star trek models, I wish they'd release the runabout kit again. It'd be a great model for any sci-fi star base.
Kid K's picture shows the size well.
Interestingly I have the action figure version of the lander pictured on the right. It's huge. It's also missing the side wings, but that's ok as I probably would have done away with them anyway for what I have in mind for it.
I found one of those Runabout kits on ebay about 4 years ago for $15. Still unmade, but man does it have potential. The way it fits together makes it perfect for all kinds of mods and kit bashing. The only gripe I have with it is that if I use it as a 40k model, there really isn't a convenient place to put an access door. It would require major cutting of the rear. If it ever gets 40k rules when Fires of Cyraxus gets released, I'd like to convert it into a Custodes flier.
Looks like a good primaries flyer to me
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2017/10/28 05:10:43
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Oh how embarassing, I still haven't posted a painted picture of that...
I got 3 of those kits but one had been stored in a hot room and warped to the point of being unusable. Nonetheless I recommend them, great size for 40k fliers.
2017/11/02 23:36:29
Subject: Re:Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Eilif wrote: With the star trek models, I wish they'd release the runabout kit again. It'd be a great model for any sci-fi star base.
Kid K's picture shows the size well.
Interestingly I have the action figure version of the lander pictured on the right. It's huge. It's also missing the side wings, but that's ok as I probably would have done away with them anyway for what I have in mind for it.
I found one of those Runabout kits on ebay about 4 years ago for $15. Still unmade, but man does it have potential. The way it fits together makes it perfect for all kinds of mods and kit bashing. The only gripe I have with it is that if I use it as a 40k model, there really isn't a convenient place to put an access door. It would require major cutting of the rear. If it ever gets 40k rules when Fires of Cyraxus gets released, I'd like to convert it into a Custodes flier.
A bit off topic, but every time I see garage kits from these small indy shows, I always wonder why we haven't seen more wargaming sized kits (or kits designed for wargaming) coming from Japan.
Considering what a premium display space can be in most major cities (we don't have that problem out in the countryside!), why don't modelers/ casters develop smaller scale products?
It's been a head scratcher for a long time.
I was asking the owner of a dedicated game shop that had painted 40k stuff about his a few years ago, and he had mentioned that while there was in interest in the modeling aspect from a small but dedicated core, his response was the designs didn't really appeal to local tastes. It wasn't like local players were adverse to the gaming aspect or the hobby aspect- it was the designs that turned them off.
So then why aren't any companies trying to get into this market?
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
Because the market is very small, and the scale is "strange"
or otherwise, 1/56 and 1/64 are just there because GW wanted to use a unique scale for their stuff
historical wargaming was there before and 1/100 for large mass battles and 1/72 for small scale mass battles and 1/32 for skirmish the usual size
1/48 is a suitable size for large vehicles placed in the middle between the higher detail and larger 1/3(2)5 kits while 1/72 is nice for large dioramas and wargaming
there is no reason for getting another medium size with 1/56 without being dedicated to historical wargaming
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2017/11/08 18:07:19
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
GW stuff was originally supposed to be "heroic" 25mm 1/72 scale, and has since suffered the biggest scale creep of any range I can think of. Compare a RTB-01 Space Marine with a current Primaris Marine, and it's kinda ridiculous. At this point, GW is 1/48 for sure.
JohnHwangDD wrote: GW stuff was originally supposed to be "heroic" 25mm 1/72 scale.
Not quite...
GW figs were never really anywhere near 1/72 scale. In some military models and in england, 1/72 is considered called 25mm because it's the overall height of the mini with a helmet is pretty darn close to 25mm.
However, the long-used to-the-eye scale of military wargaming models 1/72 scale is much more comparable to 20mm (sole to eye). Except for an old mounted pre-slotta figure I've got which is abnormally small, all the GW stuff I've seen have been 25mm to the eye or more
JohnHwangDD wrote: GW... has since suffered the biggest scale creep of any range I can think of. Compare a RTB-01 Space Marine with a current Primaris Marine, and it's kinda ridiculous. At this point, GW is 1/48 for sure.
This however, I do mostly agree with. The difference between a RT plastic and a modern marine was already somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5mm. I don't know the exact size of primaris marines but they look big enough to not only be 1/48, but -depending on your fluff source- to possibly even be truescale in 1/48.
For anyone who wants to check to see if their wargaming minis are around 1/48, an average male in that scale should be about 33 or 34mm from the sole of feet to the eyeline. Most GW infantry aren't quite there, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are soon.
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kodos wrote: Because the market is very small, and the scale is "strange"
or otherwise, 1/56 and 1/64 are just there because GW wanted to use a unique scale for their stuff
historical wargaming was there before and 1/100 for large mass battles and 1/72 for small scale mass battles and 1/32 for skirmish the usual size
1/48 is a suitable size for large vehicles placed in the middle between the higher detail and larger 1/3(2)5 kits while 1/72 is nice for large dioramas and wargaming
there is no reason for getting another medium size with 1/56 without being dedicated to historical wargaming
I agree that the market is small, compared to the wider market. 1/56 doesn't have much pull at all. However, as regards scale, 25mm and 1/64 were not invented by GW. GW has much more to do with the bulky "heroic" proportions of miniatures and the scale creep they accelerated.
25mm miniatures had been around historical minis for quite some time before GW adopted the scale. 1/64 was already a somewhat accepted scale for niches in die-cast cars, and railroad "S" gauge/scale. Ertl die cast and American Flyer trains are still made in this scale.
Though among Garage kit makers 1/72 and 1/35 (or 1/32) are far more common, there are a fair number of 1/48 kits that can be quite usefull for 28mm wargamers.
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Barzam wrote: Not for 40k it won't be. Diaclone drivers are only 1" tall and the entire line is scaled to them.
So, you're saying it's perfect for Squats?
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2017/11/16 00:03:16
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.