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2014/03/09 17:25:36
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Nightlord1987 wrote: So according to rumors of the new chart for Possessed they changed it to before Movement Phase and not before Fight phase?
Movement options are cool, but then we are stuck with their Standard profile in CC? I'm hoping there's something missing here.
But on a side note, I've just developed my own (quite literal) "Forsaken", and took a bunch of un-used/broken Marine models out of the collection to convert up into my Possessed! Narrative: FORGED!
Well, if posessed actually change to beasts in one of the results, as the rumor has it, you would run in to some serious issues with transports.
Dont know if the rules cover proper disembarkation when a unit suddenly is unable to ride in the vehicle
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2014/03/09 17:56:07
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
You can't really plan a game around 1/3rd of the time your models moving as beasts OR infantry. It's still pretty pointless esp since you can't assault out of a stationary transports.
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2014/03/09 18:15:10
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Kirasu wrote: You can't really plan a game around 1/3rd of the time your models moving as beasts OR infantry. It's still pretty pointless esp since you can't assault out of a stationary transports.
Yep. I mean, we don't have the whole wording of the rule yet. We might be missing the part where it says "Treat the Possessed as 'Beasts' for the purposes of movement, though their unit type remains Infantry." or something like that.
2014/03/09 18:35:05
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Cool video for sure, but I just don't understand the thought process at G-dub. The Helbrute model is very nice, to say the least, but the only people that are going to buy them are the hardcore modelers and painters. I haven't seen a Helbrute in a single tourney list or even in any pick up games because the rules for that unit are so horribly bad and/or there are just better choices in the codex under that unit type.
If G-dub expects to sell this model in droves, then they HAVE to re-write the current rules for it or at least add additional rules that make it a viable option in game.
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2014/03/09 19:14:55
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
It's weird that they seem to be using oop deathguard models.
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2014/03/09 19:35:44
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
sub-zero wrote: I haven't seen a Helbrute in a single tourney list or even in any pick up games because the rules for that unit are so horribly bad and/or there are just better choices in the codex under that unit type.
The mistake you make is thinking that the people writing the rules know and/or understand and/or care about this.
sub-zero wrote: I haven't seen a Helbrute in a single tourney list or even in any pick up games because the rules for that unit are so horribly bad and/or there are just better choices in the codex under that unit type.
The mistake you make is thinking that the people writing the rules know and/or understand and/or care about this.
Correction, the modelers who don't care what happens so long as they get to put out models. It resulted in the tragedy as the dinobots afterall.
Modelers make what they want, then the rulebooks have to figure out some way of using it.
2014/03/09 20:09:44
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
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Funny how people have been yelling at GW for years to "ADVANCE THE STORY!!!11!!!ONE!!11" but yet when they actually do, and introduce a new major renegade chapter, everybody groans about it.
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2014/03/09 21:05:52
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Squigsquasher wrote: Funny how people have been yelling at GW for years to "ADVANCE THE STORY!!!11!!!ONE!!11" but yet when they actually do, and introduce a new major renegade chapter, everybody groans about it.
If "advance" means-
Cram another stupid renegade chapter into a timeline that's already crammed with better renegade chapters, then Yes thank GW for the awesome advancement
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2014/03/09 21:48:09
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Squigsquasher wrote: Funny how people have been yelling at GW for years to "ADVANCE THE STORY!!!11!!!ONE!!11" but yet when they actually do, and introduce a new major renegade chapter, everybody groans about it.
Squigsquasher wrote: Funny how people have been yelling at GW for years to "ADVANCE THE STORY!!!11!!!ONE!!11" but yet when they actually do, and introduce a new major renegade chapter, everybody groans about it.
If "advance" means-
Cram another stupid renegade chapter into a timeline that's already crammed with better renegade chapters, then Yes thank GW for the awesome advancement
My thoughts exactly.
I think GW would have been way better served putting out rules for running legion specific armies. However. They would have had to have written 18 pages of rules instead of just two pages of rules. THis would have cut into the amount of useless color photos of models painted by heavy metal, and would have required more effort than someone spending an evening cranking out poorly written fluff. From their twisted perspective, this would have required more effort, and more overhead, therefore its a bad idea. (this is despite the fact that almost all chaos players would have slurped up a legion specific codex.)
Must be that they don't want a legions codex because it might create balance issues in the game.
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2014/03/09 22:03:13
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Yeah, I used to be a Helbrute fan, even tried using a couple for a long time. You're forced to take a mixed model with the random table, and in this game trying to be a jack of all trades doesn't really work too well. The Power Scourge looks good at first, but then you realize the WS chart is stupid and won't affect much. The armor is just low enough that a dedicated CC unit will tear it apart and it's damage output won't help much against any unit. I mean it's a cheap throw away walker. Upgrading it removes the cheap aspect of it, so it makes the new kits kind of pointless. If you were running a helbrute you were most likely running it stock anyways.
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2014/03/10 01:51:14
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Medium of Death wrote: Seeing the 360 of the 'brute, especially the power scourge, is really nice.
Yeah, the 360 is cool, I was afraid the back looked just as terrible as the DV brute but apparently that's not the case at all. Still a pretty underwhelming release, though...one new model, which is terrible in-game and as such won't be more than a one-off purchase at best, and a bunch of re-packages no one asked for, with unnecessary price increases to boot. The "attack force" is okay I guess, at least it provides an actual savings, though I still can't help looking at the contents of the box and thinking "Is that really all you get for $200?" Like others I kinda hope this isn't it and there are a couple more boxes going up for pre-order next week but I highly doubt it.
Speaking of new boxes no one wanted, Chaos bikers are getting re-released too, and it's the weirdest damn thing I've ever seen because they just got re-packaged with the new box design, and GW's changed it again after barely a year (instead of a boring shot of the models lined up next to each other they repositioned the models to look like the squad is coming at you, with one guy in the center and the others flanking him...you can see the new box on the product page on GW's site)...and surprisingly enough it didn't go up in price, it's still $40. Can anyone explain that one? And it's not for a new paint job either since the ones on the old box were also red.
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2014/03/10 02:28:07
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
If we see no Chosen/Havocs next week wasnt there a rumour about a possible summer campaign with the crimson slaughter and dark angels.
What`s to say the chosen/havocs wont be released then should we get nothing next week.
Obviously this could happen if the rumours are true, they are rather old but still there could yet be chosen one way or the other
2014/03/10 02:38:28
Subject: New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
Sidstyler wrote: i]one[/i] new model, which is terrible in-game and as such won't be more than a one-off purchase at best, and a bunch of re-packages no one asked for, with unnecessary price increases to boot
Before I say it, let me be clear that this is not an attack at you.. Just borrowing your words to make an observation: What you said above is exactly why GW will keep doing releases like this.. because those one-off purchases are what they like.. Of course, everyone already knows this.
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2014/03/10 03:40:14
Subject: Re:New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Preorders Up
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