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 Perfect Organism wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok now with just wheels on the front.

Ok, while I hated the original lopsided turret design I actually like this auto cannon one a fair amount. The wheels in front also improve the look. Still not 100% on it but this is better.

Nah, still think it looks ugly with the wheels. Maybe with a bunch of conversion work to make it look like they were supposed to be there, but just sticking wheels on without any other major modification isn't going to cut it.

Maybe if you used plasticard to enclose the track sections similar to existing IG tanks and then reduced the height of the track sections by maybe like 30%. So the whole thing would sit lower and most the tracks would be hidden.

Or maybe do lower tracks that have the sides exposed, buy a tank track kit from somewhere and whack it on.

Time for coming out... On the new photos I began to like Taurox. Yeas, front tracks are horrible, but IMO the vehicle is longer than it seemed on the first photo and without horde of heraldics and ornaments its solid WH-like miliatry half-truck.

Yeah...I like Taurox. Its true. And Im not ashamed of it!


Almost...

 Flashman wrote:
They decided Astra Militarum was easier to pronounce than Imperial Guard. It just rolls off the tongue.

It also looks better with a small print 'TM' right after it

double post? hm.

I've got 5 squads of these...They'll work just fine as Scions... Guess I will have multiple codex lists for this army!

So did anybody hear that the Astra Temptus is supposed to be a supplement type deal?

I hope it is moslty just an extra add on to have Storm troopers as troops and HQ, with the 'standard' elite choice in the codex.

Because really, after all those changes, I'll be bummed out if my 2-3 boxes of the brand new STs are only usable if you buy the supplement codex at 40$; and since they go out the week before the codex (or so I read) that's a good way to milk the wallets.

 Hulksmash wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Combined with the visible warping on the mudguards, the front bumper and the roof panel (most obvious on the blue missile variant) it does suggest some issues with the casting of this kit.

Since it's pretty well known that new models that are painted are normally the step before full production models ....

For their metals, yes, they used to run off resin test models before pushing them through to metal production. I've never heard of that being the case with their plastics.

But even if it is, it means they're using some fairly dreadful casts to show off this new model. Whether they're the production version or not, they're the first impression that customers are going to get of this model.

 insaniak wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Combined with the visible warping on the mudguards, the front bumper and the roof panel (most obvious on the blue missile variant) it does suggest some issues with the casting of this kit.

Since it's pretty well known that new models that are painted are normally the step before full production models ....

For their metals, yes, they used to run off resin test models before pushing them through to metal production. I've never heard of that being the case with their plastics.

But even if it is, it means they're using some fairly dreadful casts to show off this new model. Whether they're the production version or not, they're the first impression that customers are going to get of this model.

This isn't the first time they have shown models of less than top quality for display. We have seen broken baneblades and leman russes with the sponson weapons on upside down.

those scions look so sick. 18 head options for a box of 5? awesome.

i'm envisioning the officer in a beret w/ mask, and the 4 others with the full face masks / helmets.

so, the tempestus scions are all of the following?

1. stand alone force
2. imperial guard force
3. imperial guard allies

Would like to see the scions next to regular guardsmen. The scions look catachan sized.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:
Someone needs to photoshop the green one with eight wheels. See how that looks.

Thanks for that.


These three look like they should be towing fairground rides about

Now thats a armored truck, I could live with and really want.

 Happygrunt wrote:
This isn't the first time they have shown models of less than top quality for display. We have seen broken baneblades and leman russes with the sponson weapons on upside down.

Sure, but neither of those are problems with the kit itself... just problems with whoever put it together (or whoever broke it and fixed it for the photo) not knowing how to assemble it properly.

The warpage visible in these pictures is a serious issue with the kit itself.

Wow, first the masks remind me of Gears of War, now I saw they have chainsaws on their guns! Can I resist a COG army?

i rather like the taurox, very steam punkish.

The green Taurox looks OK. It's a shame that the rules for it seem fairly craptastic.

Eldar gets cheap skimmers that can fire off D6 high S ignores cover shots or basically ignore penetrating hits, while IG gets a low AV vehicle with weapons options found everywhere else in the codex. Greeeeeeat...


Hopefully rules-wise the rest of the codex has some teeth. This thing seems like a waste of time.

I hate that they are making 40K so steampunkish. I mean, I loathe steam punk, itt killed DnD for me (Eberron), but 40K was its own niche. Grimdark is something all on its own.

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Wow, first the masks remind me of Gears of War, now I saw they have chainsaws on their guns! Can I resist a COG army?

That's not a gun. The "chainsaw gun" is simply a Narthecium with a pistol grip mounting rather than the marine version's wrist mounting.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
The green Taurox looks OK. It's a shame that the rules for it seem fairly craptastic.

Eldar gets cheap skimmers that can fire off D6 high S ignores cover shots or basically ignore penetrating hits, while IG gets a low AV vehicle with weapons options found everywhere else in the codex. Greeeeeeat...


Hopefully rules-wise the rest of the codex has some teeth. This thing seems like a waste of time.

Agreed. I see no reason to replace the Chimera, yet.....
It'll get a big price (points wise) increase or axed!

 Platuan4th wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Wow, first the masks remind me of Gears of War, now I saw they have chainsaws on their guns! Can I resist a COG army?

That's not a gun. The "chainsaw gun" is simply a Narthecium with a pistol grip mounting rather than the marine version's wrist mounting.

now I gotta buy 7 to 21 of those bits...

 insaniak wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:
This isn't the first time they have shown models of less than top quality for display. We have seen broken baneblades and leman russes with the sponson weapons on upside down.

Sure, but neither of those are problems with the kit itself... just problems with whoever put it together (or whoever broke it and fixed it for the photo) not knowing how to assemble it properly.

The warpage visible in these pictures is a serious issue with the kit itself.

See, I can only see it on the green taurox and the missile version. It might have been that batch was bad and it isn't a fundamental problem with the kit (kinda grasping for hope here, I really like this kit).

thinking these would look good painted with a scheme similar to the old executioners.

First company to produce a drop in front track replacement solution that addresses some of the inherent wheel well issues gets my money.
I'm heading towards 'like' territory here.

I'm with you!

Only I want that sweet all wheeled version - 8 wheels FTW!

"Alright, Scions, you are the best of the best; the cream of a galaxy spanning military culture and culled from the dead heroes of the Astra Milithing. You are trained for rapid insertion into the fiercest of combat zones. Uralite IV is on the cusp of falling to the Plague Lord Kharnon and it is your job to neutralize him in the name of the God-Emperor. We have two possible methods of deployment. We can drop you via grav-chute from the screaming mouth of a vendetta gunship directly into a prepared firing position.

The other option is you drive there in this big truck."

While not an IG/AM/Whatever you want to call them player... must comment on that Taurox...

At first I truly detested due to those pathetic looking tracks it but it's warmed on me a tad with the new pics. Certainly it would look better with wheels in front as has been mocked up. I will say tho, that with a bit of work in the key areas it COULD make a really good base for a troop carrying Ork looted wagon. The bulk and engine/exhaust details lend itself to that, so long as the ornate stuff was suitably ruined & orkified obv. Would be a job, but could be worth it, particularly for a Blood Axe warband.

The Scions look truly great tho. Very nice indeed.

I think the Taurox would look really good as a half track, though I also wouldn't mind all wheels. Pretty much anything is better than its current configuration.