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Jex....are tanks listed as being Heavy?

 Sir Arun wrote:
and finally some info on how ministorum priests work (hymns) would be nice

It's pretty simple, the war hymns only work in CC and they function if a Leadership test is passed. Were you looking for something more specific? If so they are already all laid out in the Sororitas 'codex'.

General Hobbs wrote:


Jex....are tanks listed as being Heavy?

The leman russ variants are

Wait, does yarrick still have fearless/psuedo-zealot?

Inquisitor Jex wrote:

 JB wrote:

Inquisitor Jex wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Can I get confirmation that Yarrick can do orders? If so that's the most amazing thing ever!!!

I confirm it.

He's got 3 special rules: voice of command (can give orders), Senior officer (Can give 2 orders/turn) and chain of command (him and Commissar Lord; if there are no model with the voice of command in your army, they can act as your Warlord)

So Yarrick can only be the Warlord if you don't take a CCS?

Does Yarrick, the Commissar Lord, or regular commissars confer Stubborn or a leadership bubble on units?

since Yarrick got the voice of command special rule, you can have a CCS and Yarrick and have Yarrick as your Warlord.

They all give stubborn , and the Commissar Lord got the aura of disciple ( 6 inch, can use the Lord's Ld for morale, fear, pinning tests)

So what is your opinion of Yarrick this codex Jex? Last edition he was completely unplayable due to his point cost. Deploying him on the table was essentially a auto-defeat unless used in some cheesy deathstar formation. Word has it he is still extremely expensive. Were his stats doubled/what else does he have to make up his point cost?

So I take it there are no more new models (2nd flyer)? Seeing as I already have my ogryns and a hydra from FW, I guess I will just have to be happy with a sub par chimera (pout). Was really hoping for a fighter jet from Imperial navy or those cool jeeps with the big guns on the back.

@Commissar Benny

Now that he can issue orders and be your warlord he's well worth his 145pts. For that you get:

-A hidden order giver
-Lord Commissar and his normal 6" ld bubble
-An EW hitty Character
-A warlord that isn't part of a CCS that can be picked off by anything that can do 6-7 wounds at St6+ (eldar, tau, heldrakes, artillery, etc).

Seems like a solid point investment to me. Especially if he's still at least WS5

Does the ibook codex work on a MacBook pro?

I skimmed through the topic and know we can take Pask and Tank Commanders as HQs. Roughly how much is the non-Pask Commander? Can I take both in one list, i.e. can I take 6 HQ Lemans plus 9 HS Lemans? If so, I might buy some more Lemans tonight.

 vic wrote:
Penal legion gone? awww crap. I really like those guys.

It won't stop me from getting at least one or two of your squad sets. I can use them as conscripts. I may use the trench raiders as well for the same purpose.

 JB wrote:

 vic wrote:
Penal legion gone? awww crap. I really like those guys.

It won't stop me from getting at least one or two of your squad sets. I can use them as conscripts. I may use the trench raiders as well for the same purpose.

I think the conscript rules make more sense for penal legionaries anyhow.

Seeing better pics of that new Commissar only makes me gladder I was able to pick up the old Finecast one today (a good cast as well, no issues).

To clarify on Lord Commissars, as they seem to only be Warlord if you don't have any order-givers, is that army-wide or just in HQ? ie If I have a LC as a HQ and several PCS, how does that work? I imagine the LC would be Warlord, but you never know.

Brother Vinni also got a nice Commissar

just became aware of this threads direction.

Rough Riders... Whats become of them... are they still available? were they given straight up power lances? Furious charge? I hope they didnt bag them.

 Jancoran wrote:
just became aware of this threads direction.

Rough Riders... Whats become of them... are they still available? were they given straight up power lances? Furious charge? I hope they didnt bag them.

Very Little Changed.
>Hunting Lances are now a CCW with an adintianl profie on the Assualt: S+2, I+2, AP3, Melee, Specialist Weapon, One Use.

@Jancoran - Pretty much the same as last codex, Specialist weapon with +2 Str, Init AP3 only works once

@Kriswall - 30pts for the normal tank commander.
You can have two since you have 2 HQ slots but they have to be in a squadron with at least 1 other tank and can only order their own unit.

I suggest:
HQ 1 Punisher, Bolter sponsons, Pask - 230pts
1 Exterminator, hull lascannon - 140pts

HQ 1 Vanquisher, hull lascannon, Commander - 175pts
1 Vanquisher, hull lascannon - 145pts

One of the orders is having the commander split fire but they kinda work together in case you fail the check (9 or less on 2D6)

Kriswall wrote:I skimmed through the topic and know we can take Pask and Tank Commanders as HQs. Roughly how much is the non-Pask Commander? Can I take both in one list, i.e. can I take 6 HQ Lemans plus 9 HS Lemans? If so, I might buy some more Lemans tonight.

Paradigm wrote:Seeing better pics of that new Commissar only makes me gladder I was able to pick up the old Finecast one today (a good cast as well, no issues).

To clarify on Lord Commissars, as they seem to only be Warlord if you don't have any order-givers, is that army-wide or just in HQ? ie If I have a LC as a HQ and several PCS, how does that work? I imagine the LC would be Warlord, but you never know.

The HQ must be senior officer actually; my mistake!

Other stuff: Lances are specialist weapons, so no adding the CCW or pistol to it. RR Sgt can be a gunsligner as well with 2 PP or 2 Power weapons.

Priests can make a Ld at every fight sub-phase (so even on your opponents's turn) to get one of the following (your pick);
him and his unti re-roll armour/inv saves,
He (and only him) gains smash,
him and his unit re-roll to wound rolls.

..I think that's everything? I might ahve missed one or two things..

Can we know how exactly the deathstrike firing works now? I want to know if the mass high explosive dream is still possible. Thanks for all the info, it's been awesome.

Eyjio wrote:
Can we know how exactly the deathstrike firing works now? I want to know if the mass high explosive dream is still possible. Thanks for all the info, it's been awesome.

sure; can't shoot on the first turn; can begin to shoot on the 2nd turn, except if it moved during the movement phase. roll a dice; +1 per turn it was on the board and didn't move, -1 for every crew shaken/stunned/weapon destroyed rolled. 4+ it fires, and it always fires on a natural roll of 6.

Then it's a 160 pts 12/12/10 HB or HF platform.

So wait, does that mean it's potentially firing on a 3+ turn 2? If so, that's amazing. I want 3.

I can't be the only one having EXTREME difficulty building lists now right? Granted, my 1500 point list went from having two Leman Russ tanks to four, but still!

So far I am looking at a CCS, An HQ vanquisher squadren, two plasma vets, two melta vets, two demolishers and chimeras for the infantry.

First, thank you Jex.

I saw that the executioner got 35 points cheaper, how about the rest of the LR variants?

Can't wait to pick my codex tomorrow.

Thanks again.

Also, sorry if it has been mentioned already I tried to read the entire thread, but my boss was hovering...

Do I have to take Pask as a HQ choice or can I just put him in a Heavy Support Section tank?

I ask this cos what if want to put Pask in a single tank and not have another tank being forced to shoot at the same target.

Also what is the Heavy Stubber price? Seen both 5 and 10 points mentioned.

Franks1313 wrote:First, thank you Jex.

I saw that the executioner got 35 points cheaper, how about the rest of the LR variants?

Can't wait to pick my codex tomorrow.

Thanks again.

Also, sorry if it has been mentioned already I tried to read the entire thread, but my boss was hovering...

no problem; I'm at work right now m'self!

Basic is 150
Exterminator 130
Vanquis 135
Eradicator 120
Demo 170
Punisher 140
Executionner 155.

FatBoyNoSlim wrote:Do I have to take Pask as a HQ choice or can I just put him in a Heavy Support Section tank?

I ask this cos what if want to put Pask in a single tank and not have another tank being forced to shoot at the same target.

Also what is the Heavy Stubber price? Seen both 5 and 10 points mentioned.

Pask must be a HQ tank.

Stubber/storm bolter's 5 pts; everything is either 5, 10 or 1 pt (searchlight is the only thign that's 1 pt) augur's 25

 portugus wrote:
@Jancoran - Pretty much the same as last codex, Specialist weapon with +2 Str, Init AP3 only works once

@Kriswall - 30pts for the normal tank commander.
You can have two since you have 2 HQ slots but they have to be in a squadron with at least 1 other tank and can only order their own unit.

I suggest:
HQ 1 Punisher, Bolter sponsons, Pask - 230pts
1 Exterminator, hull lascannon - 140pts

HQ 1 Vanquisher, hull lascannon, Commander - 175pts
1 Vanquisher, hull lascannon - 145pts

One of the orders is having the commander split fire but they kinda work together in case you fail the check (9 or less on 2D6)

Does this mean these tanks are taken in the HQ slot?

It means exactly that as far as I am aware

In the book does the army refer to itself as astra militarium or still Imperial Guard????

So basically the minimum cost for bringing Pask in your army is 310 pts and that would be with 2 Eradicators. Slightly annoying...

The Eradicator seems very tempting at that price. 360 for a squadron of 3 provides a lot of cover ignoring shots.

 Sir Arun wrote:
Brother Vinni also got a nice Commissar

Wow. That really makes GW's model look like a cruel joke.