Ork rumours - First post updated 20th June

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**Billagio**

So are the rumors of a June codex still likely given the recent murmurs of a new rulebook at the end of may?

**Avian**

Well, how many weeks do you need to release one rulebook?
Not five, certainly.

**rothrich**

With any luck orks will be out the week after the ruleb ook. don't look for much info though as the rule book will get all the attention. Also rumors are pretty much all crap at this point less than a week out...

**l0k1**

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/05/40k-rumors-orks-latest.html?m=1

Saw this posted by Larry Vela on BOLS today, add salt as desired.

It's been nonstop 7th Edition talk for a week, but let's take a break to look at the latest Ork Chatter:

Orks are hot on the heels of 7th, (so June), and we have yet another source talking about kits that are jiving with stuff we've heard of late:

Look for the following:

- A new Ork Boys box triple-combo kit covering: Tank-Bustas, Kommandos, Flashgitz
- Buggie Combo kit (making the existing buggy and a new unknown kit)
- Mega-nobz Combo kit (making the existing Mega-nobz and a new unknown kit)
- Kopta Combo kit (making the existing Kopta and a new unknown kit)

-Stompa is said to included in the codex as a Lord of War

This latest set of rumors lines up pretty well with this set of rumors from past month:

Orks - 5 Kits
1) Plastic Warboss: Multi-part plastic kit which make a warboss in mega armor with new weapon options.
2) Deffkoptas: Plastic box. Dual build kit with a new Grot skimmer.
3) Tankbustas/Flashgitz/Ardboys: Multi-part plastic kit which makes any of the three units.
4) Buggy/Halftrakk Plastic kit with a new Supa-rokkit Launcha option.
5) Mek/Mad-doc/Mega-armor unit (NEW): Plastic dual unit kit - First unit is similar to oversized Cyb-orks. Shoots new saw-cannon. Second unit option makes mega armor Orks

**RobZie**

l0k1 wrote:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/05/40k-rumors-orks-latest.html?m=1

Saw this posted by Larry Vela on BOLS today, add salt as desired.

It's been nonstop 7th Edition talk for a week, but let's take a break to look at the latest Ork Chatter:

Orks are hot on the heels of 7th, (so June), and we have yet another source talking about kits that are jiving with stuff we've heard of late:

Look for the following:

- A new Ork Boys box triple-combo kit covering: Tank-Bustas, Kommandos, Flashgitz
- Buggie Combo kit (making the existing buggy and a new unknown kit)
- Mega-nobz Combo kit (making the existing Mega-nobz and a new unknown kit)
- Kopta Combo kit (making the existing Kopta and a new unknown kit)

-Stompa is said to included in the codex as a Lord of War

This latest set of rumors lines up pretty well with this set of rumors from past month:

Orks - 5 Kits
1) Plastic Warboss: Multi-part plastic kit which make a warboss in mega armor with new weapon options.
2) Deffkoptas: Plastic box. Dual build kit with a new Grot skimmer.
3) Tankbustas/Flashgitz/Ardboys: Multi-part plastic kit which makes any of the three units.
4) Buggy/Halftrakk Plastic kit with a new Supa-rokkit Launcha option.
5) Mek/Mad-doc/Mega-armor unit (NEW): Plastic dual unit kit - First unit is similar to oversized Cyb-orks. Shoots new saw-cannon. Second unit option makes mega armor Orks

Thanks for sharing, really exciting stuff here if it comes into fruition.

**Avian**

WHY are people still reading anything Larry Vela posts? I bet I could get more useful rumours from my senile old grandmother.

**Kosake**

Hm... nothing unexpected though, to be honest.

Talk is about obvious kits that needed a redo like 7 years ago...

**Clang**

I'm not believing the 'dual build meganobz plus something else' kit - surely most of the bits would be the meganob armour, and what else can a dual build kit use them for? Seems unlikely the nobz would let anyone else wear their cool armour. Sure, a few alternate bits would easily allow for mek meganobz and warboss meganobz etc, but still seems an odd dual build.

Just maybe meganobz will split into close combat specialists and shooty specialists, along the lines of the new ogryns, and the kit lets you build either?

The other thing to keep in mind re our Exciting New Kit list is what happened with IG - some long-standing units simply vanished, and I wouldn't be surprise to see the same for orks. E.g. buggies/trakks might disappear? (Possibly replaced by some new vehicle, or trukk variant?)

**Kosake**

Actually, GW might make quite the multi-purpose kit here.

- Meganobs
- Warboss in MA
- BigMek in MA
- some new unannounced Meka-Nobs or your proposed division in CC or ranged MANZ

**Avian**

With Meganobz, it wouldn't have to be more complicated than having shooty and close combat options for both arms, or simply having a greater choice of weaponry. It's not necessary to double the kit with anything.

Heck, you could have double PK Meganobz with jump packs as a Fast Attack choice.

**Jidmah**

Slow and Purposeful jump infantry would be something new

I kind of agree with Clang though. It will be hard to add Mega-Armour to a kit if the other half isn't also wearing Mega-Armour, since that would be like an entire sprue of armor plates wasted. Since it's probably easier to just make complete Mega-Armoured bodies, my guess is them either getting a box for themselves or nothing.

**stormboy**

Or it could end up like obliteraters... With nothing at all. Instead focusing on solely on new additions to the book or filling obvious holes.

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

I want buggies badly, yet I think my mind might melt at having to pay £30 for a 35pt model.

**Kosake**

I think buggies are fairly easy to scratchbuild, provided you have some wheels at your disposal. Also, whats the advantage of buggies, compared to say, deffcoptas?

**Goresaw**

Thats for a new book to decide.

And since we're going to be the first book of a new edition... we're screwed. Welcome to chaos town, sans helldrake.

**Dez**

Goresaw wrote:
Thats for a new book to decide.

And since we're going to be the first book of a new edition... we're screwed. Welcome to chaos town, sans helldrake.

I think i may have said this before in this thread, but the current Ork book was the last book of 4th edition. The current book is viable to this day. They've been pretty much using the old books with some tweaks, soI don't understand all the doom and gloom.

**Anpu-adom**

Avian wrote:

Heck, you could have double PK Meganobz with jump packs as a Fast Attack choice.

This thought makes me giggle with maniacal laughter.

**Kosake**

Hey, I've been demanding a superheavy jump tank to go with them ^_°

**matphat**

Kosake wrote:
I think buggies are fairly easy to scratchbuild, provided you have some wheels at your disposal. Also, whats the advantage of buggies, compared to say, deffcoptas?

Could not agree more. Buggies are probably the most simplistic scratch build I have done.

But I'd still like a kit.
=)

**Sidstyler**

Dez wrote:
Goresaw wrote:
Thats for a new book to decide.

And since we're going to be the first book of a new edition... we're screwed. Welcome to chaos town, sans helldrake.

I think i may have said this before in this thread, but the current Ork book was the last book of 4th edition. The current book is viable to this day. They've been pretty much using the old books with some tweaks, soI don't understand all the doom and gloom.

Because it could be Tyranid-style with nothing but bad tweaks.

**matphat**

Goresaw wrote:
Thats for a new book to decide.

And since we're going to be the first book of a new edition... we're screwed. Welcome to chaos town, sans helldrake.

I'm really surprised, and yet, not surprised at all that so many people are still convinced that this is a new edition instead of a repackaging of the current 6th Ed. rules, errata, and FAQs.

**Sidstyler**

Do you know something we don't? It could literally go either way at this point.

**doktor_g**

I guarantee our Waagh rules will change, maybe just revert to move, run, charge. At the very least that will happen. I think (because I'm a cynic) Tankbustas and Flashgitz will get a buff. Lootas possibly a nerf or point cost change. May get to add bosspoles. Not a rumor, just a observation. Grot units? Who knows. Megas to plastic... let's hope so. Buying an actual full unit would be $200... of finecast. <just threw up in mouth>

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

Aye I've done a trike as a buggy conversion and could do more, I'm just interested in seeing what GW comes up with. If it ends up being a cross over with an ole Mekboy Dragsta thingy from epic I could loose it utterly though.

Oh and aye, Waaagh is going to change, no way it can stay the same. It went from one of the most fluffy useful powers in the game, to something I've not really seen a need to use in the past three times I put my boyz down on the table, which is crazy considering it was used every game previous to 6th.

**Perfect Organism**

The third edition Waaagh! rule would work fine: check mob size against 2d6 when charging, if mob is large enough, double initiative. Would make stikkbombs worthwhile again.

I think a more likely scenario is either a random table of effects or stacking effects based on mob size; fearless at five models, furious charge at ten, rage at fifteen, double initiative at twenty, something like that.

**Jadenim**

Perfect Organism wrote:
The third edition Waaagh! rule would work fine: check mob size against 2d6 when charging, if mob is large enough, double initiative. Would make stikkbombs worthwhile again.

I think a more likely scenario is either a random table of effects or stacking effects based on mob size; fearless at five models, furious charge at ten, rage at fifteen, double initiative at twenty, something like that.

Interesting idea; something that boosted initiative would be really useful for the current problems Orks suffer with challenges.

**TedNugent**

I find it somewhat hard to believe that they will put Flash Gitz in the Boyz box considering that Gitz are Nobz, not Boyz.

They have a different statline.

Also, that would be an enormous amount of bits in a single box with very few models, which seems pretty counterproductive if they're planning on people buying a lot of Boyz. And then you would get so many bits just from the Boyz boxes that you'd be able to build additional units - that would equate to three entire boxes of Flash Gitz and Tankbusta bits per unit of Boyz.

Sounds like nonsense to me.

**pretre**

Welcome to Vela rumors.

**Dez**

Flash GITZ had normal Boy stat lines before this book. As they only have one official (and weedy) model (disregarding Badruk), I can see this getting retconned.

**Kroothawk**

Here a set of rumours from a source that prefers to stay anonymous:

The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.
New Gretchin models, including a grot oiler.
New mega nobs, not plastic versions of the existing.
Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons.
Big Mek in Mega Armour with shoulder mounted weapons, maybe SAG but doesn't look like it.
Warboss is similar to the remodelling of the Helbrute from Dark Vengeance, it looks like a reworking of the AOBR Warboss with an attack Squig
New Pain Boy with a kind of Narthecium cybork hand.
Flash Gitz (They look particularly awesome, very much like Freebootaz with loads of variation in the kit).
Big Gunz. Total redesign.