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A simple question. Why has nobody turned this book into a TV series? I think the format would make it more than ideal for a TV show
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World War Z the book really isn't your standard war with the zombies kind of story. It is a history book, more or less. It's written after we have won the zombie apocalypse and is the collection of stories and tales of how we got there. If it was going to be made into any kind of TV show, the style that would most fit it would be that of a documentary rather than say, The Walking Dead. WWZ has very little in terms of character arcs because the story isn't about the characters, it's about the world as a whole.
And to be fair, World War Z was made into a movie. And it was horrible. Should have been retitled "Running Away and Yelling".
The simple answer is no one with the money or the clout has made a push to get it made. If you have enough money (8+ figures just to start) you can work on getting it made yourself, but then you also at this point have to buy the rights back from the people who made the successful (financially) but terrible action movie using the IP. Good luck.
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A HBO mini-series would of been the way to go in my opinion. It could of been done a documentarian way inter-spliced with found footage. A way they could of told the story as a progression of events is to start the story off with fuzzy and shaky cam video and as the war advances this becomes less and less as professiobnal news crews took over and then set pieces since the tech to use smart phones would of been rendered moot by the time the US had retreated to beyond the Smokey mountains.
Clearly the miniseries format is a better fit for the book.
But they probably calculated that there was more money in a one-shot feature film (especially with Pitt on board) than "another" zombie series on TV.
It did about half a billion dollars in box office, so they clearly made the right decision. And honestly, box office like that should lend support to further development of the IP.
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gorgon wrote: Clearly the miniseries format is a better fit for the book.
But they probably calculated that there was more money in a one-shot feature film (especially with Pitt on board) than "another" zombie series on TV.
It did about half a billion dollars in box office, so they clearly made the right decision. And honestly, box office like that should lend support to further development of the IP.
It's not what the critics say, it's what the people pay.
However, the direction of the IP will be towards "horrible action movie" not towards that the book was actually about.
gorgon wrote: It did about half a billion dollars in box office, so they clearly made the right decision. And honestly, box office like that should lend support to further development of the IP.
It's not what the critics say, it's what the people pay.
Sigh. You speak the truth, which is why Transformers 4 opens soon.
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Wolfstan wrote: A simple question. Why has nobody turned this book into a TV series? I think the format would make it more than ideal for a TV show
It's a great question, since the best fit for this would have been a Band of Brothers-style limited run miniseries on HBO.
The crappy movie adaptation has probably queered the idea of any further development on this IP.
I did read that this was one of the options when the movie was wobbling through development hell. Really, from what I can gather it is amazing the film was actually made at all, and it was some way over budget.
But yes, the format would have suited a mini series 10 times better. The only thing the movie had in common with the book was the name really.
curran12 wrote: Should have been retitled "Running Away and Yelling".
A better re-title would have been "Zombies care about the infirm for Reasons".
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It's a great question, since the best fit for this would have been a Band of Brothers-style limited run miniseries on HBO.
Yeah, but Band of Brothers (the book) is very character driven. Its about men, and their personal experiences during WW2. World War Z is not like that at all as it is basically a series of flashback sequences relating to the nature of the conflict. Sure, you could develop characters to place within the World War Z universe in order to make the flashbacks emotionally resonant, but that takes way more time and money than simply adapting existing ones for a different format.
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The movie even had them invading Jerusalem. The Book had Israel as one of the few places that was safe. how fethed is that?
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Darth Bob wrote: Even if I don't understand all the hype around that show.
Well, it was a really great comic series that was adapted, in the first season, into a reasonably good show at probably the height of the zombie craze.
I don't understand why people watch it now, though. I gave up on i like 2 seasons ago after wishing the zombies would win; at least I understood their motivations and behavior.
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It fluctuates quite a bit. Season 2 was a long, boring slog, though it had some high points, such as the end of Shane and the clearing the barn at the end. Season 3 was much better, with the gang versus the Governor. I haven't seen this season so I can't really say.
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curran12 wrote: If it was going to be made into any kind of TV show, the style that would most fit it would be that of a documentary rather than say, The Walking Dead. WWZ has very little in terms of character arcs because the story isn't about the characters, it's about the world as a whole.
I was thinking mini series as it would suit the book style. I loved the book, it left me wanting to know more. The film version was just another Zombie movie, with just the same name I liked how the book touched on stuff that's not normally covered, like the aftermath. There is still the chance of stumbling across them or them walking out the sea, stuff like that.
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Ahtman wrote: It fluctuates quite a bit. Season 2 was a long, boring slog, though it had some high points, such as the end of Shane and the clearing the barn at the end. Season 3 was much better, with the gang versus the Governor. I haven't seen this season so I can't really say.
Yep. I gave up on the Walking Dead at the mid point of Season 2. After hearing the show vastly improved with Season 3 I tried to pick up where I left off and couldnt even make it through what remained of the 2nd Season. In the end I read an on-line synopsis of what happened during the rest of Season 2 and just skipped to the start of Season 3.
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Ahtman wrote: It fluctuates quite a bit. Season 2 was a long, boring slog, though it had some high points, such as the end of Shane and the clearing the barn at the end. Season 3 was much better, with the gang versus the Governor. I haven't seen this season so I can't really say.
Yep. I gave up on the Walking Dead at the mid point of Season 2. After hearing the show vastly improved with Season 3 I tried to pick up where I left off and couldnt even make it through what remained of the 2nd Season. In the end I read an on-line synopsis of what happened during the rest of Season 2 and just skipped to the start of Season 3.
On balance, I've enjoyed all the seasons so far, though they all have mini-troughs e.g. I don't know how many times they need to go all existential by having various characters go through a "What's the point of living anymore?" phase. I'd never say it was out and out boring though and it easily has enough exciting/absorbing moments to keep me interested. Season 2 gets a lot of flack, but it arguably had the best emotional gut punch of the entire show...
Spoiler:
...when Sophia walks out of the barn
The 2nd half of Season 4 was in anything more of a slog, but some good odd couples developed, and the ending was a massive draw for Season 5.
As has been mentioned WWZ would only work in a docudrama ala Band of Brothers but more seperated. Or like True Detective looks to be panning out with new characters ever season. That said the abomidable movie hurts it badly and it would have to compete with The Walking Dead. Which not even GoT wants to do, setting it's season opener a week after the Finale.
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I disagree. Season 2 had honestly nothing going for it though there was a moment or two. The show nearly lost me and I'm a big fan of the comic and season 1. Season 4, especially the second half, was pretty amazing to me. One of the best seasons of television I've ever watched easily.
To each their own though, everyone is looking for something different.
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Flashman wrote: Season 2 gets a lot of flack, but it arguably had the best emotional gut punch of the entire show...
Spoiler:
...when Sophia walks out of the barn
Meh. Wasn't much of a gut punch for me and my wife. We'd figured it out way before due to what was already in there.
The show got very predictable in Season 2 because they'd hit a patch of "safe writing" with regards to the Zombie genre.
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WWZ is written by an ignorant hick who doesn't know his head from his ass as far as militaries are concerned.
To get a Zombie apocalypse to work; you need outright magic like the Necromorphs.
That's all I'll say on the matter.
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As has been mentioned WWZ would only work in a docudrama ala Band of Brothers but more seperated. Or like True Detective looks to be panning out with new characters ever season. That said the abomidable movie hurts it badly and it would have to compete with The Walking Dead. Which not even GoT wants to do, setting it's season opener a week after the Finale.
@Flashman
I disagree. Season 2 had honestly nothing going for it though there was a moment or two. The show nearly lost me and I'm a big fan of the comic and season 1. Season 4, especially the second half, was pretty amazing to me. One of the best seasons of television I've ever watched easily.
To each their own though, everyone is looking for something different.
Agreed - Season 2 was awfully dull - end of Season 4 was very good (unlike the start) - huge fan o fthe comics myself
Enjoyed the WWZ book - not seen the film yet - but also a Huge Res Evil (films and older games) fan
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Flashman's five reasons why Season 2 is pretty good...
1. The barn - gets across the not unreasonable point of view that some would still see walkers as people especially if they were people they knew and loved.
2. Shane - seethes with rage for the entire season building to the inevitable confrontation
3. Hershel - The introduction of a man aware of his own flaws and in possession of a quiet dignity who is a far better counter point to the aggressive characters than Dale ever was.
4. Sophia goes missing - Just when you thought this was going to turn into an unresolved plot line, it gets resolved at the most unexpected moment.
5. Action - Shane and Otis in the school, the zombie down the well, the shootout at the barn, Glen, Hershel and Rick against the rednecks in the bar, Shane gets stuck in a bus, the farm gets overrun at the end... Everyone thinks Season 2 is a lot quieter than it actually is.
On topic - I've not read the book, but the film's super fast zombies didn't really do it for me. I can get past slow zombies because I can see how it might be plausible, but sprinting, jumping, swarming zombies just defy what the human body is physically capable of.
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Am I the only one who envisions a Forgeworld style campaign book for WWZ?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Flashman's five reasons why Season 2 is pretty good...
1. The barn - gets across the not unreasonable point of view that some would still see walkers as people especially if they were people they knew and loved.
2. Shane - seethes with rage for the entire season building to the inevitable confrontation
3. Hershel - The introduction of a man aware of his own flaws and in possession of a quiet dignity who is a far better counter point to the aggressive characters than Dale ever was.
4. Sophia goes missing - Just when you thought this was going to turn into an unresolved plot line, it gets resolved at the most unexpected moment.
5. Action - Shane and Otis in the school, the zombie down the well, the shootout at the barn, Glen, Hershel and Rick against the rednecks in the bar, Shane gets stuck in a bus, the farm gets overrun at the end... Everyone thinks Season 2 is a lot quieter than it actually is.
On topic - I've not read the book, but the film's super fast zombies didn't really do it for me. I can get past slow zombies because I can see how it might be plausible, but sprinting, jumping, swarming zombies just defy what the human body is physically capable of.
Hmm each to their own but:
1. The Barn - just felt really stupid to me - same with the whole dragging the dead to it - Shane did the right thing (just too late)
2. Shane - I liked him - i would have liked to see the series change from the comics and have Rick die - Shane then have to deal with the same issues............
3. Hershel - I would agree with that but only beacuse I don't think they got Dale (or Andrea) at all right in the show.......
4. Sophia - so very dragged out and I assumed she was dead in the barn long before she was revealed. Again I would rather she had been found alive.
5. Sorry just watched alot of episodes wating for somehting to happen - especially the whole search for the poor dead sophia
re Zombies / realism - its hard enough for a healthy human's bite to cause serious damage - not sure how a rotting corpse with little muscle left manages it? (without the T- Virus ) its all fun and nonsense
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I liked how the book touched on stuff that's not normally covered, like the aftermath. There is still the chance of stumbling across them or them walking out the sea, stuff like that.
) its all fun and nonsense 