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2014/06/23 20:29:44
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
kronk wrote: I can't think of anyone that I'd call "Good" with a capital G at this point.
Also, poor chained dragons. They weren't even the ones that were being naughty. Drogon was!
Agreed - thats what makes it annoying - been more sensible to wait till he came home to tell him - bad Dragon - no eating children..........also is it ever clear that he goes after humans in preference to animals - most carnivores find other animals more to their liking..................
Still once she has patched it up with him - she can go on to burn all the annoying people in Slavers Bay and Westros...............
I'm trying to remember for sure, but...
Spoiler:
I want to say that it is implied in the books that he might not have eaten any children to be in with and that he masters killed and burned a child themselves to frame the dragon after they saw the burned animals.
2014/06/23 20:35:36
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
kronk wrote: I can't think of anyone that I'd call "Good" with a capital G at this point.
Also, poor chained dragons. They weren't even the ones that were being naughty. Drogon was!
Agreed - thats what makes it annoying - been more sensible to wait till he came home to tell him - bad Dragon - no eating children..........also is it ever clear that he goes after humans in preference to animals - most carnivores find other animals more to their liking..................
Still once she has patched it up with him - she can go on to burn all the annoying people in Slavers Bay and Westros...............
I'm trying to remember for sure, but...
Spoiler:
I want to say that it is implied in the books that he might not have eaten any children to be in with and that he masters killed and burned a child themselves to frame the dragon after they saw the burned animals.
Spoiler:
Thinking when the herder brought the body in and covered? Everyone assumed it was a sheep till the body was revealed and the "Herald" yelling at the guy to collect his money at the window or something till it was pointed out by Jorah that it was a human body and not a sheep body?
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2014/06/23 21:12:58
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
Because the Tyrell army and bank account dwarfs that f the Lannisters? And because the Lannisters have no loyal allies left that are in a position to give them aid?
They have the Freys and Boltons. (Hahahaha,)
Who they themselves have no loyal allies.
Who I wouldn't call loyal allies, more "Allies of Convenience". The Boltons and Freys would just as soon stab the Lannisters in the back if it brought them more power.
In any case, neither is in a position to aid the Lannisters.
Spoiler:
The Freys are too busy subduing the Riverlands and asserting their new authority over all the disgruntled River Lords still loyal to the Tullys and Starks and angry over the Red Wedding. They're going from castle to castle, demanding allegiance and threatening a Siege if they refuse. Jaime Lannister is overseeing this operation. The Freys are also fighting an insurgency lead by the Brotherhood Without Banners with several Frey Lords being assassinated
The Boltons, meanwhile, are busy reconquering the North from the Ironborn occupiers, and trying to assert their authority over the North, a land full of Northerners still loyal to the Starks and also angry over the Boltons' part in the Red Wedding and their Lannister-granted position as their new overlords.
And to make matters worth for the Boltons, Stannis Baratheon has also invaded the North, gained the cooperation and support (though not outright allegiance) of the Night's Watch and been granted permission to garrison several abandoned castles on the Wall, gained the allegiance of several thousand Wildlings, gained the allegiance of the Mountain Clans of the North, gained the allegiance of several prominent members of Northern Noble Houses (such as members of the Umbers and Mormonts) and is marching his army to attack Winterfell.
The loyalty of several Northern Lords sworn to the Boltons is dubious, with the Freys and Manderleys inside Winterfell at each others throats trying to kill each other, some mysterious figure within Winterfell is carrying out acts of sabotage and murder.
Things really don't look good for the Lannisters, and NO-ONE is coming to save them.
2014/06/23 23:48:46
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
Because the Tyrell army and bank account dwarfs that f the Lannisters? And because the Lannisters have no loyal allies left that are in a position to give them aid?
They have the Freys and Boltons. (Hahahaha,)
Who they themselves have no loyal allies.
Who I wouldn't call loyal allies, more "Allies of Convenience". The Boltons and Freys would just as soon stab the Lannisters in the back if it brought them more power.
In any case, neither is in a position to aid the Lannisters.
Spoiler:
The Freys are too busy subduing the Riverlands and asserting their new authority over all the disgruntled River Lords still loyal to the Tullys and Starks and angry over the Red Wedding. They're going from castle to castle, demanding allegiance and threatening a Siege if they refuse. Jaime Lannister is overseeing this operation. The Freys are also fighting an insurgency lead by the Brotherhood Without Banners with several Frey Lords being assassinated
The Boltons, meanwhile, are busy reconquering the North from the Ironborn occupiers, and trying to assert their authority over the North, a land full of Northerners still loyal to the Starks and also angry over the Boltons' part in the Red Wedding and their Lannister-granted position as their new overlords.
And to make matters worth for the Boltons, Stannis Baratheon has also invaded the North, gained the cooperation and support (though not outright allegiance) of the Night's Watch and been granted permission to garrison several abandoned castles on the Wall, gained the allegiance of several thousand Wildlings, gained the allegiance of the Mountain Clans of the North, gained the allegiance of several prominent members of Northern Noble Houses (such as members of the Umbers and Mormonts) and is marching his army to attack Winterfell.
The loyalty of several Northern Lords sworn to the Boltons is dubious, with the Freys and Manderleys inside Winterfell at each others throats trying to kill each other, some mysterious figure within Winterfell is carrying out acts of sabotage and murder.
Things really don't look good for the Lannisters, and NO-ONE is coming to save them.
Personally....
Spoiler:
With Stannis leading the northern houses in the Stark's name I think he would be unbeatable.
The Lannister's are screwed basically.
I hope the Boltons get their arses kicked in the siege of winterfell. And jon leads the armies of the north and south against the white walkers.
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2014/06/23 23:56:41
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
A little late to the party but just saw the last two of the season....and I must say I am quite afraid what the Mountain is going to be like after whatever is done to him.....scary thoughts!!
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2014/06/24 00:00:30
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
I think Stannis going to get corn cob by the White Walkers being he does not believe in them or its fable made up by the the "Wildling's". Jon going to get resurrected or live within a couple of millimeters of his life, 3/64 tolerance to death. Unable to buy Stannis time at Black.
Bolton going to meet a Walker
Ramsey going to be really thrilled he met someone who is more evil then him.
...........
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2014/06/24 02:27:53
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
Jihadin wrote: I'm not sure Asherian I like that idea but
Spoiler
Spoiler:
I think Stannis going to get corn cob by the White Walkers being he does not believe in them or its fable made up by the the "Wildling's". Jon going to get resurrected or live within a couple of millimeters of his life, 3/64 tolerance to death. Unable to buy Stannis time at Black.
Bolton going to meet a Walker
Ramsey going to be really thrilled he met someone who is more evil then him.
...........
Resisting urge
Spoiler:
Stannis is too zombified thanks to Mel's meddling, he'll be done for before the Others break through The Wall's defenses.
On the other hand, the Watch will have no choice but to burn Jon's body, and when they do, the true son Rholler will finally be revealed! (and it ain't poor Stannis)
2014/06/24 02:40:37
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
d-usa wrote: Jon and fire are not exactly friends either though. He got burned pretty bad during the attack of the old master when he pulled the curtain down.
Spoiler:
You don't read books do you? In the books we rarely see Jon interact with fire.
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2014/06/24 04:12:20
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
d-usa wrote: Jon and fire are not exactly friends either though. He got burned pretty bad during the attack of the old master when he pulled the curtain down.
Spoiler:
You don't read books do you? In the books we rarely see Jon interact with fire.
Spoiler:
Except that time where he got burned, by fire.
Also, you folks are all really convinced that Jon is dead, ey?
2014/06/24 05:03:03
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
d-usa wrote: Jon and fire are not exactly friends either though. He got burned pretty bad during the attack of the old master when he pulled the curtain down.
Spoiler:
You don't read books do you? In the books we rarely see Jon interact with fire.
Spoiler:
Except that time where he got burned, by fire.
Also, you folks are all really convinced that Jon is dead, ey?
Spoiler:
Martin talked about how he would not kill jon. He has too much plot to deal with, now at the end of the series its up for grabs. But Everyone really likes Jon Snow, and the fact he might be some great hero (it would be funny if his mother just turned out to be some random chick named Willa)
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2014/06/24 10:01:30
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
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d-usa wrote: Jon and fire are not exactly friends either though. He got burned pretty bad during the attack of the old master when he pulled the curtain down.
Spoiler:
You don't read books do you? In the books we rarely see Jon interact with fire.
Spoiler:
Except that time where he got burned, by fire.
Also, you folks are all really convinced that Jon is dead, ey?
Spoiler:
medieval medical science isn't exactly great for saving you when you get stabbed in the stomach
He saw the glint of steel, turned toward it. "No blades!" he screamed. "Wick put that knife...."
....away, he meant to say. When Wick Whuttlestick slashed at his throat, the word turned into a grunt. Jon twisted from the knife, just enough so it barely grazed his skin. He cut me. When he put his hand to the side of his neck, blood welled between his fingers. "Why?"
"For the Watch" Wick slashed at him again. This time Jon caught his wrist and bent his arm back until he dropped the dagger. The gangling steward backed away, his hands upraised as if top say, Not me, it was not me. Men were screaming. Jon reached for Longclaw, but his fingers had grown stiff and clumsy. Somehow he could not seem to get the sword free of its scabbard
Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. "For the Watch" He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it .
Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger's hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold air night the wound was smoking. "Ghost," he whispered. Pain washed over them, Stick them with the pointy end. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold.....
Although Jon (as in his consciousness) may have warged into Ghost ro the Giant as his body died
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2014/06/24 13:20:58
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
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2014/06/24 13:28:03
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
d-usa wrote: Jon and fire are not exactly friends either though. He got burned pretty bad during the attack of the old master when he pulled the curtain down.
Spoiler:
You don't read books do you? In the books we rarely see Jon interact with fire.
Spoiler:
Except that time where he got burned, by fire.
Also, you folks are all really convinced that Jon is dead, ey?
Spoiler:
Jon is for all intents and purposes 'dead'.
However, it's pretty clear that he's the true Champion of Light, and when the Watch burn his body, he'll rise again as the reborn Son of Rholler. At which point, Mel will likely flip out...
2014/06/24 14:13:55
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
However, it's pretty clear that he's the true Champion of Light
No it is not. Beside, not even sure there is one!
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2014/06/24 15:14:29
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
However, it's pretty clear that he's the true Champion of Light
No it is not. Beside, not even sure there is one!
Tyrion has more plot armor than any character in the bloody books and lets not forget Dany -.-
And everyone else on my list of people who should be dead but aren't
Spoiler:
Stannis Cersi Jamie Brienne Catelyn Stark Bran Stark Rickon Stark Sansa Stark Theon Greyjoy Barrtisan Selmy Jorah Mormont Walder Frey All The Villians in the game of thrones have plot armor. Do not deny it.
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2014/06/24 15:23:08
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
And I hope they die with tons of unresolved plot hooks attached to them. Actually, I would love for Dany to be eaten by a dragon. At a moment we least expect it. That would be pretty awesome.
Tyrion has basically no plot hook attached to him at the moment, so he can survive for some time if he wants to .
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2014/06/24 15:33:29
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
And everyone else on my list of people who should be dead but aren't
Spoiler:
Stannis
Cersi
Jamie
Brienne
Catelyn Stark
Bran Stark
Rickon Stark
Sansa Stark
Theon Greyjoy
Barrtisan Selmy
Jorah Mormont
Walder Frey
All The Villians in the game of thrones have plot armor. Do not deny it.
You shgould start a different thread for this - let everyone have a go my own list:
Spoiler:
Jon Snow
Fat Sam
The new "Targaryan"
The "Masters"
Bran and firends plus the "not Elves"
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: And I hope they die with tons of unresolved plot hooks attached to them. Actually, I would love for Dany to be eaten by a dragon. At a moment we least expect it. That would be pretty awesome.
Tyrion has basically no plot hook attached to him at the moment, so he can survive for some time if he wants to .
This isn't my book. I can do that in my book because I am pyschotic and I like killing all the characters who are too likable.
Martin can't do that because he has to maintain a fan base.
Spoiler:
He knows he can't kill certain character.
Jamie
Brienne
Tyrion
Jon
Cersi
Bran
Arya
Until the end of the book series. But he really doesn't want to kill children from the stark family because there are so few of them left.
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2014/06/24 16:23:40
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
Until the end of the book series. But he really doesn't want to kill children from the stark family because there are so few of them left.
Yeah, he totally lost all his fanbase with killing the popular Eddard Starck, and then lost all that remained with the red wedding. By the purple wedding, nobody was watching anymore. That is why nobody cared when Oberyn died, nobody is a fan anymore because killing likeable character will drive away the fan.
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2014/06/24 18:05:43
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
Until the end of the book series. But he really doesn't want to kill children from the stark family because there are so few of them left.
Yeah, he totally lost all his fanbase with killing the popular Eddard Starck, and then lost all that remained with the red wedding. By the purple wedding, nobody was watching anymore. That is why nobody cared when Oberyn died, nobody is a fan anymore because killing likeable character will drive away the fan.
Err. What?
That is your opinion.
Both of you have opinion (and both of you happen to be wrong )
There is a very large fanbase, and they had no lost that many readers. They may of lost you. But most people continued after that.
Spoiler:
When Robb died, I really didn't care. He was my least favorite character.
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2014/06/24 18:10:25
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2014/06/24 18:11:01
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
This is not people that should be dead if they had no plot armor. This is a list of characters you do not like. Completely different!
I still want them dead
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Okay. So my point was that killing off popular character is part of what made the show famous, and certainly did not deter the fans. They love to rant about it, but they seem to actually love it, despite what they say. So killing those characters you listed would not deter the fan. So maybe they will all die gruesome death very soon.
You should want them alive.
They cannot suffer anymore if they are dead.
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2014/06/24 18:15:31
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Okay. So my point was that killing off popular character is part of what made the show famous, and certainly did not deter the fans. They love to rant about it, but they seem to actually love it, despite what they say. So killing those characters you listed would not deter the fan. So maybe they will all die gruesome death very soon.
You should want them alive.
They cannot suffer anymore if they are dead.
Ahh give them all to Ramsey Bolton (and his in show girlfriend)
However Apparently Jon Snow is the most important and liked character in the books (Vomit) so killing him would be a bold move for GRRM
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2014/06/24 18:22:54
Subject: Game of Thrones Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
Everyone on this thread seems to disagree? Either he is not or is a wolf or is the 2nd coming of the evil god of burning people alive (for some reason)
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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