Wayshuba wrote:

Rick_1138 wrote:
Trying to get that munitorum edition on Friday night\sat morning will be fun!...I assume about £200 and im a collectors ed whore, but I don't want the usual faffing about of mashing away at the refresh button and furiously typing in my card details!

I would be very surprised if they go that fast. Considering it's only been two years since the last edition, and will probably be only two years to the next one, I don't imagine too many are willing to plunk down $340 US for a set of rules/books that will be dust-collectors in 24 months.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This thread grows quicker than something that completes my analogy. Does anyone have a summary since the last video?

xttz wrote:Some stuff from /tg/ that mostly lines up with other rumours / WD snippets:

>Word on the D Weapons is 1: miss, 2-5: wound with no armor save but cover/invuln still allowed, 6: destroyed.

>The specifics for contesting is that all units now score, but troops in forged armies now have the uncontestable rule (like for the gargs in the formation), unless the other unit also has that rule. So it isn't just a big deal for forged v unbound, but makes troops a big deal in standard foc games.

>The rulebook also specifically states requiring player permission for unbound games. Oh, and as a bonus, forged armies get to reroll their warlord trait if desired.

>Unsure of the rest of the damage chart changes, but explodes only happens on a 7+ now.

>You can ally with "come the apoc" now. Penalties include not being allowed within 12 in and not being able to deploy together

>Jink saves are better, but universally force snap shots next turn.

>FMC now only have to make one grounding test a shooting phase, and only if wounded. No more laser pointer crashes. Big buff for flying circus.

>Oh, and apparently snap fire has been changed to a -2BS modifier instead of the flat BS1

 BlaxicanX wrote:
There's nothing in the fluff to support the idea that Inquisitors become more radical the older they get. It happens, and it's certainly a danger, but that's not the same thing as it being the forgone conclusion of working as an Inquisitor. Using Eisenhorn as an example, Commodus Voke was old as gak when he died, around 200 years old, and was Puritan to the bone.

The fact of the matter is that the idea of Coteaz or any Space Marine, especially Grey Knights, intentionally summoning deaemons is stupid as gak and utterly shatters the fluff. There is no logic-hoops one can jump through to make that not the case; it's as idiotic as Black Templars being more willing to fight alongside Tau than Sisters of Battle.

Codex: Grey Knights pg. 45 wrote:Coteaz knows that the boon he seeks could easily be granted by a Daemon, should he summon and bind it according to the proper rituals. Part of him longs to embrace this small evil, that it may firm up the foundations of his righteous work. It is a temptation that grows stronger with every passing day, but one that Coteaz has stalwartly resisted, at least so far...

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It appears that the "Into The Maelstrom" video got posted yesterday by mistake as it's now dated on the blog as 14/05/14 instead of 13/05/14. Oops.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
If summoned units are counted as being part of the Chaos Daemons faction and the 12" minimum range for Come the Apocalypse armies applies to summoned units as well, then it's almost impossible for anyone who isn't at least desperate allies with daemons to summon them. The only possible way seems to be having your psyker out on his own and then killing him during the summoning.

That should go a long way towards placating anyone who was upset that their goody-two-shoes loyalist armies could potentially call on the forces of pointy naughtiness.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I can't find another angle on these minis on the GW website, but this is from the most recent video. Is this a new model:

morganfreeman wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I like the idea of daemonology in principle.... Though, taking a 1500pt Army, then being able to add to it with more troops in game... There's imbalance and then there is taking it to whole new levels.

I also really don't like the idea of the imperium purposely summoning daemons, it really is so against the fluff it is untrue, now if daemons were summoned as the consequence of perils of the warp and went to the opposing player, and always counted as 'come the apocalypse' then yeah, I like that idea, but the idea of space marine librarians sacrifycing themselves to khorne, when battling khorne daemons? They could have at least made it interesting, with different creatures than those of the big 4... 'Imperial daemons' or 'Eldar daemons' or 'Ork daemons'

Assuming Orks have access to this, I fully intend to make myself Tuska and some of his Psy Nobz to use for "counts as" stuff.

Demons are for chumps, warp Orks all the way.

 Colpicklejar wrote:
I know a wolf player who says he's going to weird-up some wolves and use them as the 13th company counts-as-bloodletters. Sounded cool to me.

Murrdox wrote:
In terms of the FMC grounding test, I suspect that in addition to only testing once per phase, the FMC will be stuck on the ground for the following turn. As someone else pointed out, if a FMC only took one grounding test at the end of the phase, it would be pretty pointless as you wouldn't have an opportunity to shoot the FMC on the ground at all (though you could assault). I suspect there might be an additional factor there.