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 Crablezworth wrote:
GAMESworkshop no no no, SHARED EXPERIENCE WORKSHOP.

Best laugh of the night.

We're all sharing and experience right now!

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Is there a single player 40k that I'm not aware of where you dont have to socialize with someone?

I think that is just pushing plastic manz around the living room carpet making "pew pew" noises.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

I'm willing to bet that the Dark Eldar codex cover will look largely the same too.

How much?

I'm willing to bet against it.

The Space Marines, etc.., on the new books' cover don't match the (non-Limited) Codex cover art either.

That Ultramarine on one of the books was on one of the Marine LE covers (IIRC, that or he's inside the book. I'm pretty sure he's in the 6th edition rulebook too), the Iron Hands is from their supplement, the Helbrute is from Crusade of Fire....

Considering GW's pattern of recycling art I'd be more surprised if they didn't reuse it.


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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Is there a single player 40k that I'm not aware of where you dont have to socialize with someone?

I think that is just pushing plastic manz around the living room carpet making "pew pew" noises.

Have you been sitting outside my window?

Seriously though, that sounds like a bit of fun.

I'm not too keen on the art book either. Since only half of all armies got updated to 6th edition (typical) the art for the other half wont be in this visions book.

And of all the former armies that did get updated - DA, Chaos Daemons, CSM, Tau, Eldar, SM, Tyranids, IG - (as well as Knights introduced as a new faction and LotD and the 2 week MT codex) - I already have the codices for Tau, Eldar, SM and IG, so I'm gonna see a lot of recycled art. I guess they might also include the art from Escalation, SH, Altar of War and Death From the Skies.

Now if they released it at the end of the army updating cycle...then maybe I'd buy it.

BTW, I find it a bit weird they didn't include eBook vouchers in the limited edition. Would had given some return for that £200.. Although, they probably sell it out in 24 hours, anyway

Looking quite forward to this now, still gonna wait till the review someone does but its cool, will most likely get.

Did you guys not catch the latest video?
NEW! Warhammer 40,000: New army organisation opti…: http://youtu.be/7JnMByJVUow

Whats this!? No tiny head, barrel chested, beer gut plate, knobby knees, backward handed, prune face, one shoulder pad bigger than the other Space Marine on the cover!?

It truly IS a new edition folks...

 SwampRats45MK wrote:
Does anyone think that GW will just release the "Rules" portion of that trilogy box set because here in Canada its costing a whopping $100 for 3 books, two of which I find incredibly useless. One is just a over-glorified catalogue of GW employee armies and the other is the fluff that will likely not have changed that much anyways from sixth. I.e. the latest event in the timeline is the unfixable fault in the emperor's chair and the 13th Black Crusade beginning.

The rules to this should have been a free download. Prices are so high in this hobby, we've become desensitized. Its insulting! GW comes out with the DA codex and within days comes out with a faq! This is the same thing on a larger scale. They messed up the rules and we pay for it.

Next month GW is gonna sell a $200 toilet seat with its logo. Preorder now!!!!

Wonder how many posts it will take for someone to say "if you can't afford to play then don't"

 jspyd3rx wrote:
Did you guys not catch the latest video?
NEW! Warhammer 40,000: New army organisation opti…: http://youtu.be/7JnMByJVUow

By "latest" do you mean first of three, the third of which is already a couple days old?

 Phydox wrote:

Wonder how many posts it will take for someone to say "if you can't afford to play then don't"

Or:
It costs less than (insert random luxury product)!

I enjoy it more than schoolbooks!

(insert random wargame other than GW game) is wayyyy better and cheaper, come play!

 skink007 wrote:

 Phydox wrote:

Wonder how many posts it will take for someone to say "if you can't afford to play then don't"

Or:
It costs less than (insert random luxury product)!

I enjoy it more than schoolbooks!

(insert random wargame other than GW game) is wayyyy better and cheaper, come play!

By the rational of "random luxury product", Wargaming is not all that an expensive hobby when compared to other hobbies.

Just for example... Muscle Car restoration.

I love muscle cars and would love to try and rebuild one, but it's an incredibly expensive hobby.

Same with PC gaming. I built my own rig and over the course of six years, I've spent £3000+ on the rig and the set up.

Wargaming isn't cheap, but compared to others, it doesn't require a massive investment.

That's my two cents... Back on topic....

Has this weeks WD got a large section of what has changed in 40k?

anyone else a little bit annoyed that Games workshop seems to be ebbing closer and closer to everything just being Space marines. haven't seen much else from other armies for months, nothing but supplements for space marines and a whole new IG army. have they forgotten there are actually other armies out there? all these new rules sounding like you can use whatever you want in any army. i just want my Orcs update waited so long now

I don't recall seeing these before (I apologize for the slight fuzziness, I had to resize them because my phone thinks that resizing things down to 1/4 their original size to transfer them to my computer is okay):

 Captainlanger wrote:
anyone else a little bit annoyed that Games workshop seems to be ebbing closer and closer to everything just being Space marines. haven't seen much else from other armies for months, nothing but supplements for space marines and a whole new IG army. have they forgotten there are actually other armies out there? all these new rules sounding like you can use whatever you want in any army. i just want my Orcs update waited so long now

You mean orks right?
Orcs wont do much in 40k

Being a smarty pants aside, I agree, I want the green skins to get out of the 2008 codex age.

 Captainlanger wrote:
anyone else a little bit annoyed that Games workshop seems to be ebbing closer and closer to everything just being Space marines. haven't seen much else from other armies for months, nothing but supplements for space marines and a whole new IG army. have they forgotten there are actually other armies out there? all these new rules sounding like you can use whatever you want in any army. i just want my Orcs update waited so long now

Tau AND Tyranids both got an update this year before IG did. It's not just about the Space Marines/Imperium you know. And Orks are rumored for June by a LOT of people.

I love how the WD article states you only need 1 Troops choice in a Battle Forged list, when the diagram quite clearly shows that 2 are required...

So the big thing from my fuzzy pictures: Battle Forged Armies apparently are 1 HQ, 1 Troops and everything else is either a Combined Arms Detachment or an Allied Detachment. Your Primary Detachment is the one with your Warlord in it.

Detachments must be made of units from the same Factions and Factions have different alliance levels with each other.

So our "good old FOC" chart apparently has some new rules. And Allies seem to be done by Factions, not codexes.

 Captainlanger wrote:
anyone else a little bit annoyed that Games workshop seems to be ebbing closer and closer to everything just being Space marines. haven't seen much else from other armies for months, nothing but supplements for space marines and a whole new IG army. have they forgotten there are actually other armies out there? all these new rules sounding like you can use whatever you want in any army. i just want my Orcs update waited so long now

I feel your pain, but we're getting what we want soon.

 Alex C wrote:
I love how the WD article states you only need 1 Troops choice in a Battle Forged list, when the diagram quite clearly shows that 2 are required...

That second one might be part of that whole "Combined Arms" thing.

I have a feeling we'll know more soon enough.

"If indeed you're using points at all"

Yeah, they're in a different world aren't they?

 Squidbot wrote:

 Captainlanger wrote:
anyone else a little bit annoyed that Games workshop seems to be ebbing closer and closer to everything just being Space marines. haven't seen much else from other armies for months, nothing but supplements for space marines and a whole new IG army. have they forgotten there are actually other armies out there? all these new rules sounding like you can use whatever you want in any army. i just want my Orcs update waited so long now

I feel your pain, but we're getting what we want soon.

Kirby is letting every player line up outside of GW HW and kick him in the nads?


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 azreal13 wrote:
"If indeed you're using points at all"

Yeah, they're in a different world aren't they?

We've had what, like 3 Battle Reports in the last year or so that used no points?

I do wonder if they play their models more like Army Men than 40k miniatures at times.

man if 1 HQ 1 troops really becomes the new force org I'll have little left to say

the whole idea about 2 mandatory troops was the representation of the common man among an army - if I want specialist armies I'll go unbound, but 1 troops is just GW asking for their troop kits to lose sales

 azreal13 wrote:
"If indeed you're using points at all"

Yeah, they're in a different world aren't they?

Best games are the ones where 1 player is using points for their Battle Forged list, and the other player isn't using points for their Unbound list.

And of course by "best" I really mean "worst possible"...

Suck it up and forge the narrative!

 Sir Arun wrote:
man if 1 HQ 1 troops really becomes the new force org I'll have little left to say

the whole idea about 2 mandatory troops was the representation of the common man among an army - if I want specialist armies I'll go unbound, but 1 troops is just GW asking for their troop kits to lose sales

But every $50 troops plastic box not sold means that same person will buy a Khornemower for $150! Think of all the profit! The bottom line will look great and the shareholders will be running naked through the streets of England with glee! /sarcasm

Pre-ordering as soon as I leave this office... I wonder what kind of limited miniature trap they'll hook me with when it gets in.
I like the idea of seperate books, can't wait to dive in!

 Sir Arun wrote:
man if 1 HQ 1 troops really becomes the new force org I'll have little left to say

the whole idea about 2 mandatory troops was the representation of the common man among an army - if I want specialist armies I'll go unbound, but 1 troops is just GW asking for their troop kits to lose sales

I have a feeling the change really will be 1 HQ, 1 Troop and then everything else comes in "detachments". That sounds like GW's way of rolling. Sure you have to have a second troop choice, it's just part of one of the detachments.

Or the WD made a typo again.

Yeah, if the FOC drops down to 1 mandatory troop, that combined with everything becoming scoring will pretty much completely render most troop choices in the game obsolete, sans a few really good ones, like Fire Warriors or Guardsmen.

Space Marine players will certainly squeal in glee, at least.

I loves how Jes Bickham begins to address the community with "Forget what you know, The old ways are dead"

the callousness of GW HQ cannot be put in words