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 Red Corsair wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
So I guess the rumors for Alien Invasion were true.

Lord Mephiston is not pleased.

Lord Mephiston just got an update! The Librarian is Space Hulk is brother Callistarius, the same guy who later becomes Mephiston! So in a way, he did just get a new model.

The rest of the codex, though, that's a different matter...

How do you figure a model from 2009 is new tho?

Jesus he was just jesting around.

Come on guys you should know better then to tease the BA players You'll lose a finger that way!

Yeah, you wouldn't like us when we're angry! (We get Furious Charge ...)

 Paradigm wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
So I guess the rumors for Alien Invasion were true.

Lord Mephiston is not pleased.

Lord Mephiston just got an update! The Librarian is Space Hulk is brother Callistarius, the same guy who later becomes Mephiston! So in a way, he did just get a new model.

The rest of the codex, though, that's a different matter...

How do you figure a model from 2009 is new tho?

Jesus he was just jesting around.
Come on guys you should know better then to tease the BA players You'll lose a finger that way![/quote

Yeah, you wouldn't like us when we're angry! (We get Furious Charge ...)

LOL! So do Khorne Beserkers.....and Khorne is VERY unpleased by the Chaos Book

I really hope they fix things though. Currently we need flicker fields to also protect crew IMHO as no escape is simply too much. We also need better AT. I am hoping haywire is the answer.


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On another note I was just reading the sidebar on the leaked images and I love how the WD team thinks an ichor injector is a liquifire gun from the talos kit.

 Exergy wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Do they have Any models for Grotesques yet?

Yes they do. Just in Failcast.

also failpose. It looks sooo good when you have 10 of them lined up all in that dumb pose

Nailed it!

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:


Yeah, you wouldn't like us when we're angry! (We get Furious Charge ...)

LOL! So do Khorne Beserkers.....and Khorne is VERY unpleased by the Chaos Book

So do DE. Such a useless rule

From http://grotorderly.blogspot.com/

Haemonculus
15.50 pounds, 20 euros, 26 US dollars // 78zł


Wracks
22 pounds, 29 euros, 36 US dollars // 110zł

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Do they have Any models for Grotesques yet?

Yes they do. Just in Failcast.

also failpose. It looks sooo good when you have 10 of them lined up all in that dumb pose

Spoiler:

This is. More appropriate
Gene Wilder - Young Frankenstein (1974) - Puttin'…: http://youtu.be/w1FLZPFI3jc

Sooo, when do we think this will actually be up for pre-order?

I need to arrange my finances in preperation. xD

I am getting a Road Warrior vibe

 Ovion wrote:
Sooo, when do we think this will actually be up for pre-order?

I need to arrange my finances in preperation. xD

This weekend.

 SarisKhan wrote:

Rx8Speed wrote:
Since a new void raven bomber is going to be released does that mean the old razorwing will be taken off the shelves?/quote]Why? Razorwing is Razorwing, and now we're (probably) getting a specific Voidraven kit as well.

Yeah, the Razorwing is a single-seat fighter, while the Voidraven is a twin-seat bomber.

Ideally would be a seperate, larger (maybe even a dual kit).

I like how there is now Haemy stuff everywhere.
The whole Haemonculi thing and their abominations is probably my favorite thing about the Dark Eldar.

 pretre wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
Sooo, when do we think this will actually be up for pre-order?
I need to arrange my finances in preperation. xD

This weekend.

That's what I thought and hoped.

Any news on the Limited Edition book yet?
I'm tempted to get it if it's like the Ork and SW release, and I'm not as good at following rumours or as up on the whole grapevine as I used to be anymore.

 Ovion wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
Sooo, when do we think this will actually be up for pre-order?
I need to arrange my finances in preperation. xD

This weekend.

That's what I thought and hoped.

Any news on the Limited Edition book yet?
I'm tempted to get it if it's like the Ork and SW release, and I'm not as good at following rumours or as up on the whole grapevine as I used to be anymore.

Books haven't been leaked/announced yet. I'm guessing the week after (based on recent examples).

LOL, Symphony of Pain, a free game that only requires the purchase of £37.00 of models to play!

(Yeah, I know, one could simply use paper counters if one wanted, but that clearly isn't the motivation for GW in printing it. )

£37 Per player to play.

Or they provided a free game for DE players to use their existing minis with. Geeze.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 extremefreak17 wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
Incubii Darkness spray is incoming if it hasn't already been mentioned

Like spray paint?

No. The fragrance.

Well, I guess I should have seen that coming...

Azreal13 wrote:LOL, Symphony of Pain, a free game that only requires the purchase of £37.00 of models to play!

(Yeah, I know, one could simply use paper counters if one wanted, but that clearly isn't the motivation for GW in printing it. )

pretre wrote:Or they provided a free game for DE players to use their existing minis with. Geeze.

 pretre wrote:
Or they provided a free game for DE players to use their existing minis with. Geeze.

I get the feeling that certain people are pre-programmed to always see the worst, no matter how good anything is.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Azreal13 wrote:LOL, Symphony of Pain, a free game that only requires the purchase of £37.00 of models to play!

(Yeah, I know, one could simply use paper counters if one wanted, but that clearly isn't the motivation for GW in printing it. )

pretre wrote:Or they provided a free game for DE players to use their existing minis with. Geeze.

And yet the second part, which I clearly read, didn't override the first part.

UltraPrime wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Or they provided a free game for DE players to use their existing minis with. Geeze.

I get the feeling that certain people are pre-programmed to always see the worst, no matter how good anything is.

No, it's not the worst, it is simply the most simple explanation.

Everything. Every. Single. Thing. GW do is geared towards manipulating their customers into buying more of their gak. Which is fine, they're a commercial enterprise after all, except they're exceptionally clumsy about it. Which, when one considers some of the rumours that leak out from time to time, or even outright statements made under oath on public record, makes sense because several key members of senior management don't appear to hold the customer base in very high regard, so they probably think we're collectively dumb enough to fall for their bull gak.

The sad fact is, I think enough people may be feckless enough to fall for it to continue to support it for some time yet, but the GW that used to have at least a few people who were gamers first and money vampires at least second, would have made this as a game with punch out counters, and perhaps just a suggestion that you could use models instead.

 Azreal13 wrote:
LOL, Symphony of Pain, a free game that only requires the purchase of £37.00 of models to play!

(Yeah, I know, one could simply use paper counters if one wanted, but that clearly isn't the motivation for GW in printing it. )

I'm all for cynicism, it's one of my favourite past times, but isn't that a smidge much?

 pretre wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

Azreal13 wrote:LOL, Symphony of Pain, a free game that only requires the purchase of £37.00 of models to play!

(Yeah, I know, one could simply use paper counters if one wanted, but that clearly isn't the motivation for GW in printing it. )

pretre wrote:Or they provided a free game for DE players to use their existing minis with. Geeze.

And yet the second part, which I clearly read, didn't override the first part.

Cool, we must just simply be using different versions of English or something.

"It came from the void"

Looks like a voidraven!

 Azreal13 wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Or they provided a free game for DE players to use their existing minis with. Geeze.

I get the feeling that certain people are pre-programmed to always see the worst, no matter how good anything is.

No, it's not the worst, it is simply the most simple explanation.

Everything. Every. Single. Thing. GW do is geared towards manipulating their customers into buying more of their gak. Which is fine, they're a commercial enterprise after all, except they're exceptionally clumsy about it. Which, when one considers some of the rumours that leak out from time to time, or even outright statements made under oath on public record, makes sense because several key members of senior management don't appear to hold the customer base in very high regard, so they probably think we're collectively dumb enough to fall for their bull gak.

The sad fact is, I think enough people may be feckless enough to fall for it to continue to support it for some time yet, but the GW that used to have at least a few people who were gamers first and money vampires at least second, would have made this as a game with punch out counters, and perhaps just a suggestion that you could use models instead.

I agree with you. GW is not the company it once was.

It actually used to be a game company that made some models (many of their models were made by other companies) and then bought up those other companies and became a model company that has some games. As they are now a model company any rules they make have to sell models.

That said I wonder if we will see any different rules for wrack drivers for vehicles, or just flavor. TBH I do like flavor, even if there are no new rules.

 extremefreak17 wrote:
"It came from the void"

Looks like a voidraven!

I hope so. If there's a thing I'm going to buy at release with my limited funds, it's gonna be a Voidraven.

 JeneralJoe117 wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
LOL, Symphony of Pain, a free game that only requires the purchase of £37.00 of models to play!

(Yeah, I know, one could simply use paper counters if one wanted, but that clearly isn't the motivation for GW in printing it. )

I'm all for cynicism, it's one of my favourite past times, but isn't that a smidge much?

White Dwarf wrote:You will need; five Wracks and a Haemonculous per player

I'm all for balanced criticism, I think the frothing negative "Haters" do a lot of damage by drowning out valid criticism and providing apologists something to rail against without needing any real substance to their arguments, but in this case, they really are expecting you to have over £70 of models to have a game.

Now, there are ways of playing the game that wouldn't require this which are so fething obvious that I ask people not to spend pages pointing them all out, but the fact is that is what the magazine is encouraging people to do, and like I said, trying to encourage your customers to buy your stuff is fine, I'd rather they did it in a way that was a little more sophisticated.

 extremefreak17 wrote:
"It came from the void"

Looks like a voidraven!

I would love a voidraven, but I don't think one is in the mix based on the leaks so far. :(