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I think the bodies are one piece because of the corsets and skirts. They blend better together when the bodies are made like this. Flagellants were similar.

Got very excited by the releases. Went and dusted off my partially assembled dark eldar ready to recommence building the army.

Saw the price in American dollars for a packet of 5 plastic toy soldiers, realized that's the same amount as we spend on groceries in a week. Decided this is now too expensive. Went back to looking at Attack Wing ships.

It's beyond me, before, it was a case of 'I can afford these, I'm just not sure if I can justify the cost to myself' and now it's 'I actually cannot afford these'.

I am a local government employee in mid management, my wife is a retail manager, we have no kids, a single car and this is just beyond justifiable in cost.

Moopy wrote:I'm wondering if they're trying to pull a fast one by releasing the Wracks before the rules.

"OH wow! Great models! I'll buy some of those!"
"Oh.... garbage rules. I think I'll leave those at home." : /

I hope not.

I already have an army primarily made of 30 Wracks.
I intend to round it off to 50-70 total (2 more boxes of Plague Monks to convert, I know 70 is mroe than you can take, but weapons options!), maybe with a 'proper' box of wracks for giggles.


Getting a little excited now, roll on the codex!

here you go

 Ovion wrote:

Moopy wrote:I'm wondering if they're trying to pull a fast one by releasing the Wracks before the rules.

"OH wow! Great models! I'll buy some of those!"
"Oh.... garbage rules. I think I'll leave those at home." : /

I hope not.

I already have an army primarily made of 30 Wracks.
I intend to round it off to 50-70 total (2 more boxes of Plague Monks to convert, I know 70 is mroe than you can take, but weapons options!), maybe with a 'proper' box of wracks for giggles.


Getting a little excited now, roll on the codex!

Big Coven fan I take it? lol

Here's hoping wracks can still be troops...

rtb01 wrote:
Here's hoping wracks can still be troops...

It would be logical to turn them a Troops choice by default. Not that GW has any comprehension of what "logic" is, though.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Saw the price in American dollars for a packet of 5 plastic toy soldiers, realized that's the same amount as we spend on groceries in a week.

I want to know where you buy your groceries from. Here 30 euros would be groceries for two days at most*.

(* for our two person household.)

Off topic but...Food's cheap here in the US compared with many other countries. Large corporate farms, government subsidies, a decent transit system, cheap arable land all contribute. People who visit from more densly populated countries are always surprised by all the unused land in the middle of the country. Heck, you can drive for hours in Oklahoma and barely see signs of habitation. A 15lb bag of rice costs about $10, good quality hamburger meat runs about $1.20/lb and 1lb bags of frozen veggies are about $1.50.

angelofvengeance wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
I already have an army primarily made of 30 Wracks.
I intend to round it off to 50-70 total (2 more boxes of Plague Monks to convert, I know 70 is mroe than you can take, but weapons options!), maybe with a 'proper' box of wracks for giggles.

Getting a little excited now, roll on the codex!

Big Coven fan I take it? lol

Of my 28,000 points of Warhammer 40,000, fully half is Dark Eldar.
Of my 14,000 points of Dark Eldar, fully half is Coven specific units.

So, lil bit yeah. xD

This is the reason I will probably be buying the Special Edition / Limited Edition Dark Eldar book.
Especially if it has those fancy coins!

 SarisKhan wrote:

rtb01 wrote:
Here's hoping wracks can still be troops...

It would be logical to turn them a Troops choice by default. Not that GW has any comprehension of what "logic" is, though.

With GW thinking Unbound is a very popular way to make an army I fully expect them to stay where they are and have the ability to be made troops removed as it is redundant*.

*If you assume your players love unbound.

 Eldarain wrote:

 SarisKhan wrote:

rtb01 wrote:
Here's hoping wracks can still be troops...

It would be logical to turn them a Troops choice by default. Not that GW has any comprehension of what "logic" is, though.

With GW thinking Unbound is a very popular way to make an army I fully expect them to stay where they are and have the ability to be made troops removed as it is redundant*.
*If you assume your players love unbound.

At which point I'll be sad that I wasted money on the big book. :(

The birth of Unbound and all the wacky alternate FoCs that don't require troops mean we've seen the last of the slot swaps. Orks didn't have them. Wolves didn't have them. Grey Knights didn't have them.

If Wracks aren't made Troops by default, I bet there will be a Coven formation that does it.

Drakmord wrote:
If Wracks aren't made Troops by default, I bet there will be a Coven formation that does it.

I bet there is a coven formation either way.

Well, formations and Codex-specific FOCs seem to be a 7th Edition trend. Let's hope they've come up with something nice.

Anyone else wondering if Vect will be removed from the rules & relegated to a background-only overseer, with Urien taking top spot, rules-wise?

Urien's mentioned in WD & has an existing model, would save them having to release a new Ravager-sized Vect model. Hard to tell as it's only been one week of releases, but they may make the Covens the focus of the codex, etc. Logan's been the only special character to have been moved to plastic so far, not exactly precedent-worthy...

Ulcis wrote:
Anyone else wondering if Vect will be removed from the rules & relegated to a background-only overseer, with Urien taking top spot, rules-wise?

Urien's mentioned in WD & has an existing model, would save them having to release a new Ravager-sized Vect model. Hard to tell as it's only been one week of releases, but they may make the Covens the focus of the codex, etc. Logan's been the only special character to have been moved to plastic so far, not exactly precedent-worthy...

We need a Lord of War unit, and Vect would be a nice candidate.

Looking at GW's site, it seems that new Grotesques are out. Unfortunate.

Maybe they'll just say that the archon model with huskblade and soul trap as depicted on the cover is Vect?

Nagash, his mortarchs, Karl franz, volkmar, etc disagree with your general, if not 40k, precedent.

Plus in terms of vect it's a reboxed ravager with one sprue added. So there isn't as much development cost as doing the whole thing from scratch.

Or an 'upgrade' sprue to apply to a Ravager.

Or a new kit entirely, with the Dais becoming something besides a better armored but undergunned ravager. Loan got an entire new sleigh which wasn't inb the fluff before. Making the Dais a chariot type thing for Vect would not be out of line.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Plus in terms of vect it's a reboxed ravager with one sprue added. So there isn't as much development cost as doing the whole thing from scratch.

Good thought, hadn't considered that.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Or a new kit entirely, with the Dais becoming something besides a better armored but undergunned ravager. Loan got an entire new sleigh which wasn't inb the fluff before. Making the Dais a chariot type thing for Vect would not be out of line.

I agree with a new kit entirely. When in recent memory have they put out an upgrade kit? To just put out a new Ravager is totally lame and I think pretty unlikely.

My money is on a new dual kit Dais with Vect / or something else with plastic Archon *if* they do something with the Dais at all.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Plus in terms of vect it's a reboxed ravager with one sprue added. So there isn't as much development cost as doing the whole thing from scratch.

Seems most likely, especially when you consider that a Ravager is just a Raider with one sprue added. Given the same price difference, it would cost around $62 USD.

It would make sense for them to out out a Vect/Dias + Archon/ pimp-my-raider, but I'm not sure I can see GW doing it. I'd buy two of that kit though.

Is there any Haem or Wracks artwork in the new White Dwarf? I loved the Jes Goodwin design sketches back when the DE came out in 2010.

 dienekes96 wrote:
Is there any Haem or Wracks artwork in the new White Dwarf? I loved the Jes Goodwin design sketches back when the DE came out in 2010.

Nope. Just some nice artwork with some Wyches etc