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Couldnt agree more-honesty is the best policy. Its simple really-if you are being a jerk while being at the same time honest, then you are just a jerk and you dont get to be offended about being called out on it
And so goes if you are nice while being true. And yes-most of us are actually jerks. The real problem starts when you start to throw that gak around unnecesarely as if trying to prove some point. There is no point in making someone feel gakky, so instead of being super-honest you can just shut the feth up for a change. So someone with a weaker soul doesnt blow his brains out, you know...
   
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 Sigvatr wrote:
Better than all those canted "So tragic, I'm so sad!!!!1" knee-jerk reactions that occur after such events.


One can recognize something as tragic without being sad, and vice versa. I recognize that to those close to her this is a tragic day, but I myself am not really moved one way or the other.

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 Ahtman wrote:
 Sigvatr wrote:
Better than all those canted "So tragic, I'm so sad!!!!1" knee-jerk reactions that occur after such events.


One can recognize something as tragic without being sad, and vice versa. I recognize that to those close to her this is a tragic day, but I myself am not really moved one way or the other.


 Sigvatr wrote:
Don't get me wrong - it's "tragic" by its very own defition because it certainly is an event that makes some people, maybe not us, grief.

I, on a personal level, am pretty neutral on this matter. It's a girl I have never met, lived far, far away and that was killed by her own naivite and underlying problems that were failed to be adressed. I am certainly not emotionally affected by the incident. It still is a tragic event.



   
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What I was trying to say was that nobody has the right to judge a persons choices(especially if theyre legal, like porn in this case). Might it be sexual orioentation, how much you party, how much you drink, whether you snort BECAUSE (mind you these are only my beliefs) that there is a reason for every action we take. The reasons might be, like, totally limitless, for example, attention seeking, which is the most bashed thing atm. But has anyone stopped and wondered WHY the person would act in such a way? Sure, we are quick to judge that the attention seeking person is just a spoiled brat(or in the porn industry case-the girl is simply stupid/slut), but maybe the person has lived in a disfunctional family(like most in Eestern europe , maybe the person has been abused, maybe the person has never felt love-has some inner defect. And because there are actually a million different things why the girl might have chosen to to this(or any other person pretty much anything) I hate when people are being judged as lesser/stupider/laughing stock.
All while these cocks jack off to Sascha Grey and regard to her life choices as perfectly normal and acceptable(cause they fething are).


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Why do we do this? Honestly? Why as a culture are we so eager to trade the dumbing down of our social, emotional, and yes, actual intelligence that social media brings to each of us for pithy jokes and pictures of people's food and babies?

Nobody is interesting enough for Twitter to be worth it. People managed to keep in touch with their friends before Facebook came along. Yeah, I sound like I'm talking from my Luddite cave despite having both Twitter and Facebook accounts, but we all know the cost, right? We all know we're getting dumber, emotionally weaker, more prone to influence, less capable of thinking for ourselves?
   
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 Triton wrote:
Why do we do this? Honestly? Why as a culture are we so eager to trade the dumbing down of our social, emotional, and yes, actual intelligence that social media brings to each of us for pithy jokes and pictures of people's food and babies?

Nobody is interesting enough for Twitter to be worth it. People managed to keep in touch with their friends before Facebook came along. Yeah, I sound like I'm talking from my Luddite cave despite having both Twitter and Facebook accounts, but we all know the cost, right?


I'm sure you have lots of evidence that people were so much better before the internet and social media. Regale us with tales of that gilded age.


 Triton wrote:
We all know we're getting dumber, emotionally weaker, more prone to influence, less capable of thinking for ourselves?


I'm not sure this is true either, beyond possibly the emotion part, but only in the sense they have shown that kids that grow up with less face-to-face contact with others are less empathetic and have trouble reading body language. I'm not sure people are really any stupider than they have always been.

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 Triton wrote:
Why do we do this? Honestly? Why as a culture are we so eager to trade the dumbing down of our social, emotional, and yes, actual intelligence that social media brings to each of us for pithy jokes and pictures of people's food and babies?

Nobody is interesting enough for Twitter to be worth it. People managed to keep in touch with their friends before Facebook came along. Yeah, I sound like I'm talking from my Luddite cave despite having both Twitter and Facebook accounts, but we all know the cost, right? We all know we're getting dumber, emotionally weaker, more prone to influence, less capable of thinking for ourselves?


Speak for yourself.

I use twitter almost exclusively for news.

I also recognize that if I wanted to "avoid mean twitter and Facebook people" I could simply delete the app.

 
   
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I think it's pretty safe to assume that people are just as horrible, it's just that social media give them an outlet to spread their hate further.

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 Jihadin wrote:
Before Firearms.
One less avenue of abuse to commit suicide
Disagreement can be resolved by fists to the chanting of "Fight Fight Fight"


What do you know, it works when you replace 'internet' with just about anything.

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 cincydooley wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Sigvatr wrote:
Well, at least he's honest about his opinion. Better than all those canted "So tragic, I'm so sad!!!!1" knee-jerk reactions that occur after such events.

Are you saying it is better to be openly a jerk and be proud of it rather than pretending to be a nice person?


I'd rather be honest than offer a disingenuous self serving "oh that's so sad" diatribe.


Way to keep it real.


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 cincydooley wrote:


I also recognize that if I wanted to "avoid mean twitter and Facebook people" I could simply delete the app.


Wait, you can turn people off IRL if you delete your Twitter and Facebook apps now?

EDIT: On a separate note, what purpose does including her "on-screen name" in the interview serve?

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Cincinnati, Ohio

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:


I also recognize that if I wanted to "avoid mean twitter and Facebook people" I could simply delete the app.


Wait, you can turn people off IRL if you delete your Twitter and Facebook apps now?

EDIT: On a separate note, what purpose does including her "on-screen name" in the interview serve?


She was getting "harassed" on social media. Not in person. So yes.

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:


I also recognize that if I wanted to "avoid mean twitter and Facebook people" I could simply delete the app.


Wait, you can turn people off IRL if you delete your Twitter and Facebook apps now?

EDIT: On a separate note, what purpose does including her "on-screen name" in the interview serve?


She was getting "harassed" on social media. Not in person. So yes.


Turning it off also means turning off your friends and family that aren't harassing you, and like it or not, has become as ubiquitous as phones. If you are in Afghanistan you can probably get by without a phone or social media, but in the first world they are part of everyday life, and the younger you are the more deeply ingrained as part of a normal social experience.

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It's insane how integrated younger people are. I'm a couple of years older than most of my Uni peers and the younger ones are all about their smart phones and checking that gak constantly. Some are worse than others. I can easily see 13/14/15 year olds that have this as requiring it second only to air and perhaps food as they get older.

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The thing that I dont understand, and probably never will, is how it's completely not OK that this girl from Minnesota does a porn film, and is harrassed to the point of suicide for it; But that girl from Duke does the same thing and she either doesn't get near the amount of harassment for it, or she gets more support from friends, etc.

Is it really that much different from NC to MN? Are the cultures in the two places still that far apart that the same career choices (if you want to call a single film a career) have such drastically different outcomes?
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
The thing that I dont understand, and probably never will, is how it's completely not OK that this girl from Minnesota does a porn film, and is harrassed to the point of suicide for it; But that girl from Duke does the same thing and she either doesn't get near the amount of harassment for it, or she gets more support from friends, etc.

Is it really that much different from NC to MN? Are the cultures in the two places still that far apart that the same career choices (if you want to call a single film a career) have such drastically different outcomes?


I doubt it. There seems to be a pretty major difference in how the two women perceived it, though. If Funke felt "empowered" as Knox has claimed she does, I doubt she would have killed herself.

 
   
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 Ahtman wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:


I also recognize that if I wanted to "avoid mean twitter and Facebook people" I could simply delete the app.


Wait, you can turn people off IRL if you delete your Twitter and Facebook apps now?

EDIT: On a separate note, what purpose does including her "on-screen name" in the interview serve?


She was getting "harassed" on social media. Not in person. So yes.


Turning it off also means turning off your friends and family that aren't harassing you, and like it or not, has become as ubiquitous as phones. If you are in Afghanistan you can probably get by without a phone or social media, but in the first world they are part of everyday life, and the younger you are the more deeply ingrained as part of a normal social experience.

Erm... I know plenty who aren't on facebooks at all...

Also, only use twitter as my TMZ / News feed. No one needs to read my tweets.

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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
The thing that I dont understand, and probably never will, is how it's completely not OK that this girl from Minnesota does a porn film, and is harrassed to the point of suicide for it; But that girl from Duke does the same thing and she either doesn't get near the amount of harassment for it, or she gets more support from friends, etc.

Is it really that much different from NC to MN? Are the cultures in the two places still that far apart that the same career choices (if you want to call a single film a career) have such drastically different outcomes?


It's about how you handle the issue.

   
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 Sigvatr wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
The thing that I dont understand, and probably never will, is how it's completely not OK that this girl from Minnesota does a porn film, and is harrassed to the point of suicide for it; But that girl from Duke does the same thing and she either doesn't get near the amount of harassment for it, or she gets more support from friends, etc.

Is it really that much different from NC to MN? Are the cultures in the two places still that far apart that the same career choices (if you want to call a single film a career) have such drastically different outcomes?


It's about how you handle the issue.


While true, there does, on the surface at least, appear to be much more negative external input towards the young lady from Minnesota when compared to the lady from Duke.
   
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 whembly wrote:
Erm... I know plenty who aren't on facebooks at all...


And there are people that don't have phones either, but that doesn't mean they aren't wildly out of step with the rest of society. We have one guy in our game group who doesn't use any social media and is always behind on the game schedule and what is going on.


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 cincydooley wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
The thing that I dont understand, and probably never will, is how it's completely not OK that this girl from Minnesota does a porn film, and is harrassed to the point of suicide for it; But that girl from Duke does the same thing and she either doesn't get near the amount of harassment for it, or she gets more support from friends, etc.

Is it really that much different from NC to MN? Are the cultures in the two places still that far apart that the same career choices (if you want to call a single film a career) have such drastically different outcomes?


I doubt it. There seems to be a pretty major difference in how the two women perceived it, though. If Funke felt "empowered" as Knox has claimed she does, I doubt she would have killed herself.


She still said "everyday is a nightmare", but I imagine the difference is level of support from those not attacking her and less history of mental problems to begin with.

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She's full of it. If it was "such a nightmare" she wouldn't be going on the view and if she wanted to keep it a secret she certainly wouldn't have shared it with someone at a frat party.

 
   
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 Ahtman wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Erm... I know plenty who aren't on facebooks at all...


And there are people that don't have phones either, but that doesn't mean they aren't wildly out of step with the rest of society. We have one guy in our game group who doesn't use any social media and is always behind on the game schedule and what is going on.

I'm just challenging the notion that one couldn't "extricate" themselves from social media. That's all.

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 cincydooley wrote:
She's full of it. If it was "such a nightmare" she wouldn't be going on the view and if she wanted to keep it a secret she certainly wouldn't have shared it with someone at a frat party.


Truly she must have been faking it when she offed herself.

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I think he was talking about Belle Knox, not the poor girl that suicided.

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 whembly wrote:

I'm just challenging the notion that one couldn't "extricate" themselves from social media. That's all.


It's alienating. I'm not even that young, and sometimes I wish I had a facebook account. I have about 5-6 people I'm incredibly good friends with, and I talk to those people over email usually if we're not meeting in person. People usually tell me on short notice about upcoming gettogethers and stuff, because they forget I'm not on the facebook and they feel like they have to catalog it in there rather than just compose a brief email.

So it's doable, but not for someone who's a social butterfly. Even my situation would be exacerbated if you took someone 10 years younger. I don't think they actually use email for casual communication anymore at that age.

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 whembly wrote:
 Ahtman wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Erm... I know plenty who aren't on facebooks at all...


And there are people that don't have phones either, but that doesn't mean they aren't wildly out of step with the rest of society. We have one guy in our game group who doesn't use any social media and is always behind on the game schedule and what is going on.

I'm just challenging the notion that one couldn't "extricate" themselves from social media. That's all.


And I never said it was impossible, just that it isn't some outlier part of society. Mere existence doesn't require much, but existing and thriving within a society is different.

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I believe she killed herself.

I don't believe even the slightest speculation as to what the triggers were.

As soon as a news station stops stating objective fact, I stop listening. One of my best friends works in the news, and shares just how much "cleanup and spice" they'll put in to make a story captivating.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I think he was talking about Belle Knox, not the poor girl that suicided.


Maybe. Based on some of the comments, I honestly can't tell anymore.

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