Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
Nagash. A very old model from the Undead faction in Warhammer Fantasy.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
Not sure. The blade resembles a Witchblade. In fact the overall appearance (except for the head) makes me think of Eldar.
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia
Oh... That's the clowncar/trainwreck Nagash model. He cause the whole Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings debacle.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/01 21:49:28
Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
3000 Points - Right Hands of the Emperor, Imperial Fists Successor
1000 Points - Right Hands of the Emperor Elite PDF force
Bolt Action 1500 pts US Army
Bolt Action 1000 pts US Airborne
X Wing - Giant rebel fleet
Halo Fleet Battles - 1000 pt UNSC Force, 1000 pt Covenant Force
Nagash from WHFB. The equipment is a dead give away. The other give away should be how stupid it looks.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/02 10:05:40
Midnightdeathblade wrote: Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
It's the original Necron Lord model from 2nd edition, from before they came with green glowsticks. This particular Lord was aligned with the Imperium - notice the aquila on the signum he's holding in his left hand.
Yes, 40K used to have Imperium slash Necron romance long before Ward came into the picture.
-DE- wrote: It's the original Necron Lord model from 2nd edition, from before they came with green glowsticks. This particular Lord was aligned with the Imperium - notice the aquila on the signum he's holding in his left hand.
Yes, 40K used to have Imperium slash Necron romance long before Ward came into the picture.
Not sure if serious.
Midnightdeathblade wrote: Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
-DE- wrote: It's the original Necron Lord model from 2nd edition, from before they came with green glowsticks. This particular Lord was aligned with the Imperium - notice the aquila on the signum he's holding in his left hand.
Yes, 40K used to have Imperium slash Necron romance long before Ward came into the picture.
Um.....no. It's Nagash.
This is the original Necron Lord:
"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
I'm just going to pretend like half the posters in this thread are trolling by playing dumb, because Nagash is an infamously bad model. Gary Morley's name will go down in nerdgame history for that goofy model.
Brother SRM wrote: I'm just going to pretend like half the posters in this thread are trolling by playing dumb, because Nagash is an infamously bad model. Gary Morley'sGames Workshop's execs name will go down in nerdgame history for that goofy model.
Fixed.
It is also quite well known Morley did a different head.
Spoiler:
From the man himself
the story on the Nagash, model... is this;
It was my first big Multi-part mini I had ever attempted. and it certainly
went through many versions in sculpting. (In those days concept drawing
were very sketchy and I had very little input.) But only one version ever made it to the
moulds. However, there are two head versions the original head was based
on the design that i was given, a more Zombie looking type. And that was the one
that my design manager and I (at the time) prefered. But at that time all miniatures
had to be approved not only by the design studio, but also by the sales management.
This is where it came un-stuck! They did'nt like it, and prefered to have a Skull,...?
Much to my dislike. Now because of release dates and schedules I had one day to put it 'right'. So preffering the original I went ahead and made the alternative. Now, I never thought for one moment thought that they would approve the (laughing clown) skull and would revert back to the original.
The Joke back-fired. And to my horror it was approved and they released it!
Throughout my time at GW I know i made some sculpts that I was not that happy with.
But, Nagash has been the one model that Haunted me all through my time there.
(AND IT STILL DOES!)
And vowed that I would re-make before I left. However, that was never to be.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/02 11:10:23
Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them.
sing your life wrote: That head makes Nagash look really decent. Thanks for nothing GW execs.
Or, was it actually a really good idea?
Think of it this way, if nagash had actually been a good sculpt, maybe it would have been forgotten along with most of the sculpts of that era, you know, the old 'it was good for it's time but the XYZ resculpts are much better'. By making it an awful cheesy affair the model got people talking, and joking, and buying the model to paint and play with because it was so terrible (if only for the challenge of making a really bad model look good with a paintjob), as far as GW sales are concerned, as long as it makes money, it doesn't matter whether that is because it's awful or amazing.
As fabius bile said:
If a man dedicates his life to good deeds and the welfare of others, he will die unthanked and unremembered. If he exercises his genius bringing misery and death to billions, his name will echo down through the millennia for a hundred lifetimes. Infamy is always more preferable to ignominy
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
Phototoxin wrote:Kids go in , they waste tonnes of money on marnus calgar and his landraider, the slaneshi-like GW revel at this lust and short term profit margin pleasure. Meanwhile father time and cunning lord tzeentch whisper 'our games are better AND cheaper' and then players leave for mantic and warmahordes.
daveNYC wrote:The Craftworld guys, who are such stick-in-the-muds that they manage to make the Ultramarines look like an Ibiza nightclub that spiked its Red Bull with LSD.
That would be Nagash, Supreme Lord of the Undead. In the ancient days of 4th (?) edition Warhammer Fantasy, Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts were one army: Warhammer Armies: Undead that let you field an amalgamation of them both together. The big kahuna of special characters was Nagash, who I think at the time was just around 500 points with all his stuff. He was a Level 5 (!!) wizard with the Book of Nagash, had I believe an unmodified 3+ save (Black Armor or something) and every wound he dealt with his blade (Mortis, the Great Blade of Death) gave him wounds back; I forget his statline but it was pretty good, I think just about 8s across the board. I still recall some very painful experiences with my Dark Elves versus my brother's Undead with Nagash.
A real nasty customer. One of the most powerful special characters in the Warhammer World in the lore: Not only did he INVENT Necromancy, kill every living thing in Khemri to make them the Tomb Kings, obliterate an enormous army that tried to challenge him (the wastes outside Nagishizaar. his fortress/lair, was basically one gigantic graveyard, such was his power), but the first time he was defeated it took a hero (Alcadizzar) with a magic warpstone sword (that later killed him due to radiation poisoning or something) and the magic powers of the entire Skaven Council of Thirteen to defeat him (and I think half of them died from magical backlash). The second time it took Sigmar, the god/possible lost primarch to defeat him.
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2014/06/02 23:19:33
Nagash - the only miniature ever made by GW that cried out to be voiced by Frank Oz.... (Wocka, wocka, wocka!)
The Auld Grump
Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
Brother SRM wrote: I'm just going to pretend like half the posters in this thread are trolling by playing dumb, because Nagash is an infamously bad model. Gary Morley'sGames Workshop's execs name will go down in nerdgame history for that goofy model.
Fixed.
It is also quite well known Morley did a different head.
[spoiler]
From the man himself
the story on the Nagash, model... is this;
It was my first big Multi-part mini I had ever attempted. and it certainly
went through many versions in sculpting. (In those days concept drawing
were very sketchy and I had very little input.) But only one version ever made it to the
moulds. However, there are two head versions the original head was based
on the design that i was given, a more Zombie looking type. And that was the one
that my design manager and I (at the time) prefered. But at that time all miniatures
had to be approved not only by the design studio, but also by the sales management.
This is where it came un-stuck! They did'nt like it, and prefered to have a Skull,...?
Much to my dislike. Now because of release dates and schedules I had one day to put it 'right'. So preffering the original I went ahead and made the alternative. Now, I never thought for one moment thought that they would approve the (laughing clown) skull and would revert back to the original.
The Joke back-fired. And to my horror it was approved and they released it!
Throughout my time at GW I know i made some sculpts that I was not that happy with.
But, Nagash has been the one model that Haunted me all through my time there.
(AND IT STILL DOES!)
And vowed that I would re-make before I left. However, that was never to be.
I have a Nagash and think he's great, stupid, goofy, but great. I don't understand people who think that changing the head makes a huge improvement. Everything else is equally terrible. He doesn't have a pose as such, he's just waving his arms and staff around and there's little that can be done without significant conversion work, then there's the skulls everywhere, the odd wasp-waist.
Howard A Treesong wrote: I have a Nagash and think he's great, stupid, goofy, but great. I don't understand people who think that changing the head makes a huge improvement. Everything else is equally terrible. He doesn't have a pose as such, he's just waving his arms and staff around and there's little that can be done without significant conversion work, then there's the skulls everywhere, the odd wasp-waist.
Don't forget the shoulder pads!
Nagash's shoulder pads would put a stereotypical female corporate executive from the 1990s to shame
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
Phototoxin wrote:Kids go in , they waste tonnes of money on marnus calgar and his landraider, the slaneshi-like GW revel at this lust and short term profit margin pleasure. Meanwhile father time and cunning lord tzeentch whisper 'our games are better AND cheaper' and then players leave for mantic and warmahordes.
daveNYC wrote:The Craftworld guys, who are such stick-in-the-muds that they manage to make the Ultramarines look like an Ibiza nightclub that spiked its Red Bull with LSD.