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Tbh I have lost the love for the show during matt smith, I mean he is a good actor but for me the problem lies with moffat. In my opinion MOffat can write some very good single episodes (Blink was a personal fav of mine) but he cant carry a series, not the way RTD could, but then I hear that Capaldi has had shouting arguments on set with moffat over the script, and has declared he doesnt not like the direction moffat is taking the show and has said he will not be run off the show bring me hope, as I think he will mitigate the damage Moffat can cause when writing a season.

All said, I think of the new doctors Eccleston was the best, especially in the episode Dalek, I really feel from that episode that he is a man who has lost everything, and he boils with rage and guilt and hurt, Dalek is my favourite episode there is.

 DukeBadham wrote:
but then I hear that Capaldi has had shouting arguments on set with moffat over the script, and has declared he doesnt not like the direction moffat is taking the show and has said he will not be run off the show bring me hope, as I think he will mitigate the damage Moffat can cause when writing a season.

If all that is true, then I have hopes for the show... As Capaldi is an actor who's been around, and doesn't strike me as one who's still trying to build his book and thus won't put up with gak if it interferes with his art form.

Does make you wonder though, if Capaldi's Doctor really becomes popular in this season or less, and BBC sees the "writing on the wall" would they get rid of Moffat, or Capaldi? (as in, they realize that DW is their cash cow, and depending on how popular Capaldi is as the Doctor, would they "save" the show by canning him, or the writer?)

This is all hearsay so I dont know if its true, but its enough to get me to watch the show at least

There are four things I want from the show:
1) A ginger Doctor
2) A female or a non-white doctor
3) An LGBT companion(s) that are proper whole series companions
4) A gay kiss between the Doctor and Jack Harkness (I miss him)


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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 DukeBadham wrote:
but then I hear that Capaldi has had shouting arguments on set with moffat over the script, and has declared he doesnt not like the direction moffat is taking the show and has said he will not be run off the show bring me hope, as I think he will mitigate the damage Moffat can cause when writing a season.

If all that is true, then I have hopes for the show... As Capaldi is an actor who's been around, and doesn't strike me as one who's still trying to build his book and thus won't put up with gak if it interferes with his art form.

Does make you wonder though, if Capaldi's Doctor really becomes popular in this season or less, and BBC sees the "writing on the wall" would they get rid of Moffat, or Capaldi? (as in, they realize that DW is their cash cow, and depending on how popular Capaldi is as the Doctor, would they "save" the show by canning him, or the writer?)

Hopefully they would see people feelings on moffat, and put someone else in charge, as moffat is good at writing episodes, but someone else should have the reigns on the season.

Also...what are everones feelings on the episode "midnight"...It still creeps me out watching it

Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 DukeBadham wrote:
but then I hear that Capaldi has had shouting arguments on set with moffat over the script, and has declared he doesnt not like the direction moffat is taking the show and has said he will not be run off the show bring me hope, as I think he will mitigate the damage Moffat can cause when writing a season.

If all that is true, then I have hopes for the show... As Capaldi is an actor who's been around, and doesn't strike me as one who's still trying to build his book and thus won't put up with gak if it interferes with his art form.

Does make you wonder though, if Capaldi's Doctor really becomes popular in this season or less, and BBC sees the "writing on the wall" would they get rid of Moffat, or Capaldi? (as in, they realize that DW is their cash cow, and depending on how popular Capaldi is as the Doctor, would they "save" the show by canning him, or the writer?)

They'd be mad to let Capaldi go, he the most high-profile actor ever to have taken the role and ever since he was announced, the reception has been overwhelmingly positive. Moffat, on the other hand, seems to have more people calling for his head after each episode he writes. If it comes down to it, heel go before they loose Peter.

It's worth noting that Capaldi also has an Oscar for directing, so the rumours he's trying to keep the show on track don't surprise me and hopefully pan out.

DukeBadham wrote:This is all hearsay so I dont know if its true, but its enough to get me to watch the show at least

There are four things I want from the show:
1) A ginger Doctor
2) A female or a non-white doctor
3) An LGBT companion(s) that are proper whole series companions
4) A gay kiss between the Doctor and Jack Harkness (I miss him)

Out of interest, why are these things on your list? Do you really think it would/should change the dynamic of the show to have a female/black/gay Doctor? I feel that the Doctor should always be cast as the best man for the job, and that 'man' may well be female or black or ginger and I have no issues with it. However, I think if someone were picked just because of those things, it would be little more than a token gesture to appease sections of the fans.

Also...what are everones feelings on the episode "midnight"...It still creeps me out watching it

I love Midnight, it's a class act in how to perform to perform with very limited space to act in, a small cast of unknown characters, and a budget of about 2p. It seems to have nothing going for it at first glance, but is carried by an amazing script and great acting, and remains one of the creepiest and underrated episodes of the modern run.

There looks to be an episode in the new series along similar lines (small cast/set, lots of dialogue), so hopefully they can pull it off again.

 Paradigm wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:This is all hearsay so I dont know if its true, but its enough to get me to watch the show at least

There are four things I want from the show:
1) A ginger Doctor
2) A female or a non-white doctor
3) An LGBT companion(s) that are proper whole series companions
4) A gay kiss between the Doctor and Jack Harkness (I miss him)

Out of interest, why are these things on your list? Do you really think it would/should change the dynamic of the show to have a female/black/gay Doctor? I feel that the Doctor should always be cast as the best man for the job, and that 'man' may well be female or black or ginger and I have no issues with it. However, I think if someone were picked just because of those things, it would be little more than a token gesture to appease sections of the fans.

Sorry I wasnt clear, Dont get me wrong, I firmly believe that the best actor should be given the role as the doctor, but what I dont think there is is open casting calls for the role. So I doubt there would be a black or female doctor; I get why they choose to play it safe, but it doesnt mean I wouldnt like some variety.

Also, from all the flirting the doctor did with good ol' Captain Jack, I am at least half certain he is Bi, or some other term under the Bibrella (Bisexual umbrella), but I am a bit of a yaoi fangirl at heart.

And I just wanna see a ginger doctor because of how they complain when they regenerate that they arent ginger, I think it would be funny to see how a ginger doctor reacts. xD

 DukeBadham wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:This is all hearsay so I dont know if its true, but its enough to get me to watch the show at least

There are four things I want from the show:
1) A ginger Doctor
2) A female or a non-white doctor
3) An LGBT companion(s) that are proper whole series companions
4) A gay kiss between the Doctor and Jack Harkness (I miss him)

Out of interest, why are these things on your list? Do you really think it would/should change the dynamic of the show to have a female/black/gay Doctor? I feel that the Doctor should always be cast as the best man for the job, and that 'man' may well be female or black or ginger and I have no issues with it. However, I think if someone were picked just because of those things, it would be little more than a token gesture to appease sections of the fans.

Sorry I wasnt clear, Dont get me wrong, I firmly believe that the best actor should be given the role as the doctor, but what I dont think there is is open casting calls for the role. So I doubt there would be a black or female doctor; I get why they choose to play it safe, but it doesnt mean I wouldnt like some variety.

Also, from all the flirting the doctor did with good ol' Captain Jack, I am at least half certain he is Bi, or some other term under the Bibrella (Bisexual umbrella), but I am a bit of a yaoi fangirl at heart.

And I just wanna see a ginger doctor because of how they complain when they regenerate that they arent ginger, I think it would be funny to see how a ginger doctor reacts. xD

Fair enough, all perfectly reasonable.

I only asked because I get irked when you get period saying the Doctor should be a woman or black or gay 'just because'. If it doesn't do anything for the character or story, then there's no reason for it, and it becomes a token gesture that undermines whatever 'equality' it was trying to represent. If much rather they have a ran for it (is a very impressive actor/actress catches their eye) than just doing it for the same of it.

But I think, when they cast, they have character in mind, and to date, that character has always been a white English male. In the future, who knows?

 Paradigm wrote:

But I think, when they cast, they have character in mind, and to date, that character has always been a white English male. In the future, who knows?

 Paradigm wrote:

 DukeBadham wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:This is all hearsay so I dont know if its true, but its enough to get me to watch the show at least

There are four things I want from the show:
1) A ginger Doctor
2) A female or a non-white doctor
3) An LGBT companion(s) that are proper whole series companions
4) A gay kiss between the Doctor and Jack Harkness (I miss him)

Out of interest, why are these things on your list? Do you really think it would/should change the dynamic of the show to have a female/black/gay Doctor? I feel that the Doctor should always be cast as the best man for the job, and that 'man' may well be female or black or ginger and I have no issues with it. However, I think if someone were picked just because of those things, it would be little more than a token gesture to appease sections of the fans.

Sorry I wasnt clear, Dont get me wrong, I firmly believe that the best actor should be given the role as the doctor, but what I dont think there is is open casting calls for the role. So I doubt there would be a black or female doctor; I get why they choose to play it safe, but it doesnt mean I wouldnt like some variety.

Also, from all the flirting the doctor did with good ol' Captain Jack, I am at least half certain he is Bi, or some other term under the Bibrella (Bisexual umbrella), but I am a bit of a yaoi fangirl at heart.

And I just wanna see a ginger doctor because of how they complain when they regenerate that they arent ginger, I think it would be funny to see how a ginger doctor reacts. xD

Fair enough, all perfectly reasonable.

I only asked because I get irked when you get period saying the Doctor should be a woman or black or gay 'just because'. If it doesn't do anything for the character or story, then there's no reason for it, and it becomes a token gesture that undermines whatever 'equality' it was trying to represent. If much rather they have a ran for it (is a very impressive actor/actress catches their eye) than just doing it for the same of it.

But I think, when they cast, they have character in mind, and to date, that character has always been a white English male. In the future, who knows?

I can see, and agree with the first three on that list... But I honestly dont see the point, or reason for the 4th

Every season since the first of the reboot I have seen the new doctor and been like.... man this is going to suck the other guy was so much better....

Then after a few episodes I am like, wow this guy is better (or just as good, no downer to matt but no one can hold a candle to tennant.).....

So yeah I am thinking the new guy is going to suck and that I will miss the old Doctor..... but who know a couple episodes in I may be all like.... hmm this guy is pretty good.


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Oh and PS, you forgot John Hurt... he was a very good Doctor as well.... Potentially better than Matt.

RJCarrot wrote:
Every season since the first of the reboot I have seen the new doctor and been like.... man this is going to suck the other guy was so much better....

Then after a few episodes I am like, wow this guy is better (or just as good, no downer to matt but no one can hold a candle to tennant.).....

.

Indeed. Going into Smith's first one I expected terribleness, an hour later my main thought was 'David who?'

That said, I already expect excellence from Capaldi, so hopefully he'll prove me right. All the comments around so far seem to point that way.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:


I can see, and agree with the first three on that list... But I honestly dont see the point, or reason for the 4th

I'm just one of those fans who loves to imagine all the characters in homosexual situations...tumblr has warped me...

For a show that claims to be the longest running sci-fi tv series i tought Doctor Who would have more than 8 seasons. But who am i to judge.

Daemonhammer wrote:
For a show that claims to be the longest running sci-fi tv series i tought Doctor Who would have more than 8 seasons. But who am i to judge.

Doctor Who started in 1963 and ran the whole time until 1989 when it stopped until the movie in 1996 and then was rebooted in 2005.

Daemonhammer wrote:
For a show that claims to be the longest running sci-fi tv series i tought Doctor Who would have more than 8 seasons. But who am i to judge.

It's 8 seasons since it started back up in 2005 after it's original 1963-1989 run.

 pretre wrote:

Daemonhammer wrote:
For a show that claims to be the longest running sci-fi tv series i tought Doctor Who would have more than 8 seasons. But who am i to judge.

Doctor Who started in 1963 and ran the whole time until 1989 when it stopped until the movie in 1996 and then was rebooted in 2005.

As a TV show it stopped in 1989, it got a movie in 1996.

Daemonhammer wrote:
For a show that claims to be the longest running sci-fi tv series i tought Doctor Who would have more than 8 seasons. But who am i to judge.

The newer ones are 8 seasons. The old ones are around 26 seasons.

I seen the first two episodes. They were screenings so CGI wasn't done, it was in black and white and it had the old intro. Quite like Capaldi.

Daemonhammer wrote:
For a show that claims to be the longest running sci-fi tv series i tought Doctor Who would have more than 8 seasons. But who am i to judge.

In case you're serious, you are forgetting the 20 some odd seasons previously made, from the 60s to the 80s.

The 8 seasons are for the New doctor Who, there are about 12-13 seasons of classic Who, totalling about 20 seasons of Doctor Who in total I believe

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Okay thanks, i was slightly confused.

 Vaktathi wrote:

pretre wrote:Doctor Who started in 1963 and ran the whole time until 1989 when it stopped until the movie in 1996 and then was rebooted in 2005.

As a TV show it stopped in 1989, it got a movie in 1996.

That's what I wrote...


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 DukeBadham wrote:
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And me, Vaktathi and Duke Badham.

I live in Ireland and there is these channels from the CBS network (which i think is big in the us) but here they only broadcast tv shows from a few decades ago, which is fine if i want to watch the original series of star trek or TNG, but they recently started advertising that they will play the old black and white Doctor Who episodes. I sometimes joke that Ireland recieves the signal that was sent into space, bounced off something and returned here a few decades later.

 pretre wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

pretre wrote:Doctor Who started in 1963 and ran the whole time until 1989 when it stopped until the movie in 1996 and then was rebooted in 2005.

As a TV show it stopped in 1989, it got a movie in 1996.

That's what I wrote...

Sorry, thought it said ran until 1996 for some reason

 Vaktathi wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

pretre wrote:Doctor Who started in 1963 and ran the whole time until 1989 when it stopped until the movie in 1996 and then was rebooted in 2005.

As a TV show it stopped in 1989, it got a movie in 1996.

That's what I wrote...

Sorry, thought it said ran until 1996 for some reason

It did, but I edited it since someone might get confused. And then you responded to the edited one.

Do watch the older ones if you get the chance, some are terrible but most are very good and have some great plots and moments despite the lack of CGI. The Sea Devils, Genesis of the Daleks and Remembrance of the Daleks are personal favourites. Not all the old stuff is in black and white, from Pertwee onward it's in color.

yeah, I went back and watched from the beginning on over the last year or two. Definitely worth it.

 pretre wrote:

 DukeBadham wrote:
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And me, Vaktathi and Duke Badham.

I ninja'd myself, skillful!

Bah, I meant Grumpy Eldar.

Classic Who definately has some great episodes of awesome sci-fi in its run. It also has some pretty risible dogs, too (any show that ran for 26+ years was bound to have a few stinkers). The infuriating part is that so many episodes no longer exist due to the BBC's sexual attraction to fire during the 60s and early 70s.

Though I literally did the Snoopy Dance when I found out that a bunch of episodes had been found in a TV station in Africa last year.

Some of the older ones were decent watches. That said, they're all very much products of their time, comprised for a very different audience and in a place where TV functioned differently than it does today and served a different purpose. Most of the older stuff I found to be very difficult to slog through, though I did like Genesis of the Daleks and a couple of others.

It is amusing in a way however that there are more missing episodes of Doctor who than the original Star Trek ever made

Well that was... Unexpected. Capaldi was about as excellent as can expected, but the script was a little mediocre and unmemorable. He carried the episode and the character, but the rest of it was far from the best.



Also, I love the new title sequence! Very steam punk!

 Paradigm wrote:
Well that was... Unexpected. Capaldi was about as excellent as can expected, but the script was a little mediocre and unmemorable. He carried the episode and the character, but the rest of it was far from the best.

Spoiler:

Matt's appearance was cool though, and a nice touch.

The ending was weird... Moffat hinted at an old enemy returning. The Rani, maybe?

Yeah, the story was meh.

Potato-head was nice too, though, as always.