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 Inquisitor Bob wrote:
I keep hearing that we don't understand Krieg.. But to be honest are we reading the same books here?

What have you read? I'd suggest checking out the Siege of Vraks series, Imperial Armor V (and VI/VII) goes into exceedingly great lengths as to the planet Krieg and how the DKoK functions.

You say their trained from birth? I've never read that, only stuff about them press-ganging abets they've "liberated".. That's not birth...

Methinks you're thinking of something else maybe?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Death_Korps_of_Krieg#.U7sVy7H4T-Q

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Korps_of_Krieg

"By order of the High Lords of Terra Krieg's sole purpose is to produce new regiments, and its tithes are the maximum possible for the planet's population, supplying over fifty million men per year. This includes the use of unusual methods such as "Vitae Womb" birthing techniques, a practice seen as dangerous and abhorrent by the Adeptus Mechanicus' Magos Biologis but tolerated by the Departmento Munitorium, while others such as a eugenics program to weed out mutants is simply a continuation of policy from the civil war years.

Recruitment starts almost from birth, and the ability to withstand the hardships of living on an atomic-blasted world is enhanced further with brutal training designed to quickly weed out the weak and unworthy. Mental conditioning is a key part of a Krieg recruit's training, their minds purposefully broken and remade stronger, and absolute faith in the Emperor is installed at an early age, amplifying preexisting cultural norms regarding honour and self-sacrifice to create what the Ecclesiarchy calls a "cult of sacrifice." It also emphasises their role as an element in the greater picture, a pebble in the avalanche which will crush the enemies of the Emperor; as individuals they do not matter, which is why medals and other awards are unheard-of in Krieg regiments, especially since bravery and heroism is to be expected. Rates of injury and fatality during training are high, and as a final test all recruits are forced to endure the surface of Krieg itself, performing maneuvers and fighting mock battles amidst the nuclear-blasted battlefields that cover their world. Only those who survive this final phase of training become members of the Death Korps."

They don't "press gang" anyone, I'm not sure where that's coming from, unless you're talking about the parts in Dead Men Walking where the Krieg troops are put in charge of training the PDF conscripts...

Yeah it was from dead men.. That's interesting.. Eugenics program actually does make them a little more plausible..

As for "doesn't matter if they're realistic or not"... Yeah it does to a lot of people.. I don't care ofthe science is real.. Even magic satanic whatever's doesn't bother me.. When I read through dead men walking and dot even finish it because the only hung more costly than the waste of money was the waste of time.. Then yeah character is pretty important.. And DKOK don't have any relatable.. Or even understandable characters..
After two months of leaving the book to rot.. I don't even regal a single memorable character.. And some pretty awful story...


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I mean when a word-bearer and a heretic has a better love story than twilight..I mean.. DKOK
..A lunar wolf has more flaws than DKOK
.. A Primarch has more mortal mentality than a DKOK
.. When thousand sons break more times than DKOK
.. Even Lorgar had more indecisiveness than DKOK
.. And well... Crimson fist look like a bunch of pussies next to DKOK..

... Something's very wrong with the dichotomy there..


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But yeah my point is DKOK are the twilight of 40k to me.. So unbelievably over-the-top Mary Sue.. Ignoring anything else in relation to itself
Instead of sparkles.. Add grimdust..

Really? I finished that book in a single night, it was super "40k" to me. I remember more moments from that book than almost any other, like the melta-gun incident referenced earlier in this thread.

Life sucked and then everyone died, the quintessential 40k story.

The DKoK aren't supposed to really be characters that you relate to and feel for, they're supposed to be a reflection of how awful the state of the Imperium is and by extension the 40k universe. In the fight to save humanity, they've had to destroy it.

In Dead Men Walking there were no DeusEx Machina saviors, no ridiculous feats of heroism that magically saved the day, no overpowering martial prowess that simply cuts down everything in its path, no invincible heroes dueling the Big Bad Evil Guy. Rather, it's an examination of the type of battle that occurs all the time within the 40k universe but lacks a heroic character and last minute miraculous victory to save everyone.

The Imperial forces went in, did their utmost, determined the conflict could not be won with the resources available, evacuated what resources they could (and what people could buy their way off-world), and burned the rest along with the Necrons, and shipped everyone on to the next important target. The story of just how bad it sucks to live in the Imperium of Man when not told from the vantage point of someone on the upper .00001% of the Imperium's military or political hierarchy as with most 40k books (or the more action-hero-ey IG books like the Cain books).

If you were reading the book for mighty heroes or lovable characters, or a happy ending, I'd suggest you were looking for the wrong thing out of the book, rather than the book itself having a major problem.

jhe90 wrote:
Krieg troops do not function as normal people, there hyper indoctrinated to feel they need to die to absolve sins hundreds off years old. That ain't normal thinking!

But tons of people in the real wold would have that not normal thinking. It is the whole shtick of some real-life religions, like Christianity with that whole “original sin” and stuff.


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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Space Marines need to be "overpowered" because the things they fight are as well.

Not by the level of Ashiraya's quote. Laughing off plasma shots, titan stampedes, Leman Russ battle-cannons…

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
There's no whining about how broken Psykers are

Because we hardly see them do stuff. Alpha-level psykers are extremely overpowered, but also extremely rare and hardly ever appear in the fluff. Marines are all over the place.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
or how silly it is that Eldar have lightning-fast reflexes, or that the Orks don't ever give up and just grow bigger the more they fight.

Neither of this is ridiculously overpowered.
Let me quote my Codex about Eldars :

Faeruithir crouched low behind the shattered wall of a human building and spoke to his squad of Warp Spiders.
‘The Mon-keigh cannot mark our passing, and their poor aim cannot seek us within these walls. The slaughter will be vast and our death spinners will sing a lament of blood. Prepare yourselves for another jump, I shall assign targets.’
As the Exarch stepped onto a pile of bricks and stuck his head over the ruined wall, he saw a human tank clumsily skidding through the scattered rubble, its tracks churning through the mounds of stone and throwing up a cloud of gritty dust. Faeruithir ignored the vehicle for a moment; whatever crude weapons the tank possessed would not harm him behind the thick wall.
As Faeruithir noted the squads of the armoured human females moving through the woods, his attention was drawn back to the tank by the whining sound of its turret motors. He glanced back and saw the twin nozzles of some primitive weapon. Just as he turned to step down from the impromptu ledge the Immolator opened fire and gouts of flame poured over the wall, lapping round the shattered windows to engulf the whole squad.
The Immolator rolled onwards, crushing the charred bodies of the Eldar beneath its steel tracks.

Imagine the warp spiders replaced by space marines. Ashiraya would have an heart attack, because marines cannot die to weapons that are not meant to destroy titan .


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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Space Marines need to be "overpowered" because the things they fight are as well.

Not by the level of Ashiraya's quote. Laughing off plasma shots, titan stampedes, Leman Russ battle-cannons…

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
There's no whining about how broken Psykers are

Because we hardly see them do stuff. Alpha-level psykers are extremely overpowered, but also extremely rare and hardly ever appear in the fluff. Marines are all over the place.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
or how silly it is that Eldar have lightning-fast reflexes, or that the Orks don't ever give up and just grow bigger the more they fight.

Neither of this is ridiculously overpowered.
Let me quote my Codex about Eldars :

Faeruithir crouched low behind the shattered wall of a human building and spoke to his squad of Warp Spiders.
‘The Mon-keigh cannot mark our passing, and their poor aim cannot seek us within these walls. The slaughter will be vast and our death spinners will sing a lament of blood. Prepare yourselves for another jump, I shall assign targets.’
As the Exarch stepped onto a pile of bricks and stuck his head over the ruined wall, he saw a human tank clumsily skidding through the scattered rubble, its tracks churning through the mounds of stone and throwing up a cloud of gritty dust. Faeruithir ignored the vehicle for a moment; whatever crude weapons the tank possessed would not harm him behind the thick wall.
As Faeruithir noted the squads of the armoured human females moving through the woods, his attention was drawn back to the tank by the whining sound of its turret motors. He glanced back and saw the twin nozzles of some primitive weapon. Just as he turned to step down from the impromptu ledge the Immolator opened fire and gouts of flame poured over the wall, lapping round the shattered windows to engulf the whole squad.
The Immolator rolled onwards, crushing the charred bodies of the Eldar beneath its steel tracks.

Imagine the warp spiders replaced by space marines. Ashiraya would have an heart attack, because marines cannot die to weapons that are not meant to destroy titan .

Well the original sin is not really a schtick in christianity due to the fact that In Jesus's death that sin was removed. Though im not saying theres not someone who still sticks to that thinking.

Psykers may be powerful but they also play with fire and may very well doom themselves and everyone around them to a horrible death.

 Inquisitor Bob wrote:
But yeah my point is DKOK are the twilight of 40k to me.. So unbelievably over-the-top Mary Sue.. Ignoring anything else in relation to itself
Instead of sparkles.. Add grimdust..

Thats how i feel about the Horus Heresy Books and the descriptions of primarchs in general. But i wanted the event to stay in myths and legends of Better days.

1hadhq wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
The only thing I dislike about the Kriegsmen is that they spell "Corps" with a K, "because German". It wouldn't be a problem if the whole name was German, but it isn't.

Todeskorps von Krieg would be their German version.
But GW gave up on translating names soooo
Maybe next time they call them Death Corps of War for example... you got your english and happy now. Right ?

Corps is from France IIRC. They used it and everybody copied it.

Todeskorps is never going to be used, because its a euphemism for nazi SS murder squads in Germany.

Void__Dragon wrote:
Crying about Marines crushing armies on their own have a lot less value when you consider the inspiration. Is The Iliad also a terrible twelve year old boy's power fantasy?

No, it's an epic bedtime story designed to give hope to children whose fathers are far from home, prosecuting a war. Same target audience, significantly better paced.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Let me quote my Codex about Eldars :

Faeruithir crouched low behind the shattered wall of a human building and spoke to his squad of Warp Spiders.
‘The Mon-keigh cannot mark our passing, and their poor aim cannot seek us within these walls. The slaughter will be vast and our death spinners will sing a lament of blood. Prepare yourselves for another jump, I shall assign targets.’
As the Exarch stepped onto a pile of bricks and stuck his head over the ruined wall, he saw a human tank clumsily skidding through the scattered rubble, its tracks churning through the mounds of stone and throwing up a cloud of gritty dust. Faeruithir ignored the vehicle for a moment; whatever crude weapons the tank possessed would not harm him behind the thick wall.
As Faeruithir noted the squads of the armoured human females moving through the woods, his attention was drawn back to the tank by the whining sound of its turret motors. He glanced back and saw the twin nozzles of some primitive weapon. Just as he turned to step down from the impromptu ledge the Immolator opened fire and gouts of flame poured over the wall, lapping round the shattered windows to engulf the whole squad.
The Immolator rolled onwards, crushing the charred bodies of the Eldar beneath its steel tracks.

Imagine the warp spiders replaced by space marines. Ashiraya would have an heart attack, because marines cannot die to weapons that are not meant to destroy titan .

See, this debate'd be much more reasonable if you stopped claiming that Space Marines almost never get killed, even if it's hyperbole you keep doing it, despite having been proven wrong. Take Helsreach as an example again; a Black Templar Sword Brother almost gets killed by what is essentially a souped-up taser wielded by an Ork Boy. Marines die by the droves in the Damocles Crusade, the Crimson Fists get their Chapter virtually wiped out by their own defence systems, the Celestial Lions get on the wrong side of the Inquisition and are killed by long-las. The Astral Knights rammed the World Engine and died to a man, and even the Ultramarines have their First Company wiped out at Macragge.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

No, it's an epic bedtime story designed to give hope to children whose fathers are far from home, prosecuting a war. Same target audience, significantly better paced.

IIRC there was no major Greek conflict around the time The Iliad is thought to have been composed, and depending on your interpretation of the text isn't meant to be uplifting at all, considering how fatalistic it is (The desires of men are meaningless, the gods decide all conflict, etc).

Also, better-paced? Jesus no. By modern standards The Iliad has terrible pacing.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
And that is why the Death Korps is so badass and grimdark. They are a planetary population bred specifically for war. They have Commissars not to make them face the enemy, but to prevent them from throwing their lives away in fixed-bayonet charges against the enemy.

That's not badass. That's logistical incompetence. Actual good Guardsmen are Cadians. If anything the Death Korps are probably just a net loss.

I'm sorry to go off topic, but SERIOUSLY?!
To even compare Cadians as the best regiment is seemingly stupid. They're poster boys and lack character, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM SO BORING! (Remind you of anything... *Cough* Ultrasmurf *Cough*)
The only thing good about them I have ever seen or read is Sergeant Bastonne. He was a bad ass with flavour.

To even compare Cadians to Death Korps is like comparing Cadians to Vostroyans, or Catachan, or the fething Tanith First and Only. Cadians are imo one of the most boring regiments in the galaxy because they can do everything.

The basis of Guard is an untold billion cultures seemingly thrown into one giant machine to use their varying ways of war to stop the enemy on countless different fronts. Whether it is to throw armour and arms in the winding street (Vostroyan), fighting a hard and long guerrilla war in the midst of a sprawling jungle that can kill you in more ways than the enemy (Catachan), or breaking cover and constantly advancing into the enemy to try and break their lines upon a coverless action on a forsaken moon (Mordian). The Guard are so awesome and indeed so diverse that they can suit nearly any environment thrown at them. That's what makes them so awesome.

With the DKoK, they were bred upon an inhospitable land that has been drilling their minds with victory at any cost. They have been so heavily indoctrinated that they are willing to sacrifice even the ultimate price (Their lives) for the cause of the Imperium, to redeem the sins of their forefathers. That is why they are associated with trenches a lot, because they are willing and tenacious to hold the ground until death. They ignore pain, sickness, beauty, passion and everything else, for they just see battle as a glorious way to die. That is why they are sculpted with their masks; to portray that they are just another faceless cog within the war machine that is the Imperium of Man. To compare them to Space Marines is like comparing the mutants to Chaos Marines; they have many common traits, but the mutants with never get to the level of respect and affinity that the Marines are on.

The DKoK are the most dedicated regiment within the Imperium because they only see death within their lives. They are the product of their world.

If any regiment is boring within the Imperial Guard, it has to the Mary Sue Cadians. IMO the DKoK should be on Cadia, because they are the bi-product of constant death and slaughter within an inhospitable land. If anything, Cadia should be an inhospitable fortress because they are constantly assaulted by the Warp and the people on there should think about sacrificing everything to stop the daemons and Chaos from spilling into real-space. Cadians are all well and good, but they don't really resemble IMO the very hard life the fluff says they live; a life of constant sacrifice and hardship battling the warp.

Rant over,

So what you're saying is that they had to become the best of the guardsman due to the extremely adverse circumstances they face, and in turn becoming one of the most truly versatile regiments as well? Cool.

I like the DKoK, but there's nothing wrong with the Cadians.

 baxter123 wrote:
I'm sorry to go off topic, but SERIOUSLY?!
To even compare Cadians as the best regiment is seemingly stupid. They're poster boys and lack character, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM SO BORING! (Remind you of anything... *Cough* Ultrasmurf *Cough*)
The only thing good about them I have ever seen or read is Sergeant Bastonne. He was a bad ass with flavour.

To even compare Cadians to Death Korps is like comparing Cadians to Vostroyans, or Catachan, or the fething Tanith First and Only. Cadians are imo one of the most boring regiments in the galaxy because they can do everything.

The basis of Guard is an untold billion cultures seemingly thrown into one giant machine to use their varying ways of war to stop the enemy on countless different fronts. Whether it is to throw armour and arms in the winding street (Vostroyan), fighting a hard and long guerrilla war in the midst of a sprawling jungle that can kill you in more ways than the enemy (Catachan), or breaking cover and constantly advancing into the enemy to try and break their lines upon a coverless action on a forsaken moon (Mordian). The Guard are so awesome and indeed so diverse that they can suit nearly any environment thrown at them. That's what makes them so awesome.

With the DKoK, they were bred upon an inhospitable land that has been drilling their minds with victory at any cost. They have been so heavily indoctrinated that they are willing to sacrifice even the ultimate price (Their lives) for the cause of the Imperium, to redeem the sins of their forefathers. That is why they are associated with trenches a lot, because they are willing and tenacious to hold the ground until death. They ignore pain, sickness, beauty, passion and everything else, for they just see battle as a glorious way to die. That is why they are sculpted with their masks; to portray that they are just another faceless cog within the war machine that is the Imperium of Man. To compare them to Space Marines is like comparing the mutants to Chaos Marines; they have many common traits, but the mutants with never get to the level of respect and affinity that the Marines are on.

The DKoK are the most dedicated regiment within the Imperium because they only see death within their lives. They are the product of their world.

If any regiment is boring within the Imperial Guard, it has to the Mary Sue Cadians. IMO the DKoK should be on Cadia, because they are the bi-product of constant death and slaughter within an inhospitable land. If anything, Cadia should be an inhospitable fortress because they are constantly assaulted by the Warp and the people on there should think about sacrificing everything to stop the daemons and Chaos from spilling into real-space. Cadians are all well and good, but they don't really resemble IMO the very hard life the fluff says they live; a life of constant sacrifice and hardship battling the warp.

Rant over,

Effectiveness =\= interesting.

He's right that the DKoK are a terribly inefficient army if they're collectively so stupid that a Commissar has to threaten them in order to prevent them from doing a diving-headbutt into a meat grinder and dying pointlessly.

IMO I just hate their mary sue fluff. Some people may like them, go ahead.

I am just saying, to say the Cadians are the best regiment is stupid, for they just lack the diversity that others have (E.g Tanith and their Flamer/Sniper combo, the Vostroyan with their armour advancements etc.)

Plus its not that their stupid, it is that their so willing to sacrifice themselves that they don't see the consequence. They want to fight and kill any enemy they face and achieve victory no matter what.

If Cadians can't be the best regiment, who is?

 baxter123 wrote:

Plus its not that their stupid, it is that their so willing to sacrifice themselves that they don't see the consequence.

That seems like the definition of stupidity.

 baxter123 wrote:
IMO I just hate their mary sue fluff. Some people may like them, go ahead.

I am just saying, to say the Cadians are the best regiment is stupid, for they just lack the diversity that others have (E.g Tanith and their Flamer/Sniper combo, the Vostroyan with their armour advancements etc.)

What mary sue fluff? I am struggling to think of them being particularly amazing at any point.

The Cadians have the most diversity though because they aren't specialized. Isn't the point of Cadian that they're jacks of all trades?

No regiment is the best regiment. They are all diverse in their own separate ways that there can't be one winner. It really is up to who is your favourite. Some people may say Cadians, some people may say Elysium Drop Troops (Excuse my spelling if I'm wrong).

Personally I prefer the Arkan Confederates (From Fire Caste). I just like their fluff. If it was models, I would choose the Catachan just because of Straken and the fact that I am really interested in the Pacific War and the Guerrilla warfare in World War 2 and they appeal to me because of that.

That really wasn't my argument though. The argument is that the Death Korps aren't boring because they are apparently 'Too Stupid to be cool', it is just that they are a diverse regiment that is the bi-product of the inhospitable land they originated from. They are willing to throw themselves at the enemy no matter the cost for they only see victory at any cost.

Oh for the Mary Sue fluff, how about try the Cadians description in Sixth Edition about being the most called upon regiment in the Imperial Guard and the fact that even though they send out billions of troops, they still have PLENTY of manpower to stop constant invasions and massacres that happen all around the planet? It just seems a bit mary sue to me, but some people may like it, and if they like it go ahead. I just think their too versatile and boring.

If it's up to the individual to decide which regiment is the best, I don't see why claiming Cadians are the best is stupid.

Be honest, if he had said "Death Korps are the best regiment" would your response have been the same?

I just think the fluff for the Cadians are a bit dull.

yeah I think it would be. Their not my favourite regiment, but their cool I reckon. If someone said 'The Catachan are the best' my response would still be the same. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and mine is that every regiments too versatile within the Guard to pick the BEST REGIMENT EVER!

Within the imperial guard is literally every trope and stereotype about (european/western) warfare imaginable. The DKOK are simply one aspect of that, in that they are All Quiet on the Western Front in a over the top grimdark world. Everything in 40k is one single aspect turned up to 11. The DKOK is an extremely British way of looking at total war, shaped by the cultural trauma of the SOmme and Paschendele. Its no better or worse than anything else out there.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
See, this debate'd be much more reasonable if you stopped claiming that Space Marines almost never get killed, even if it's hyperbole you keep doing it, despite having been proven wrong.

I do not know about you, but I am pretty sure Ashiraya would be pretty unhappy by marines being killed by something as weak as sororitas heavy flamers. Is that not true, Ashiraya?
I mean, she is adamant that marines should be able to resist direct shots from plasma guns and melta guns, what are a few gout of promethium going to do to them?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
See, this debate'd be much more reasonable if you stopped claiming that Space Marines almost never get killed, even if it's hyperbole you keep doing it, despite having been proven wrong.

I do not know about you, but I am pretty sure Ashiraya would be pretty unhappy by marines being killed by something as weak as sororitas heavy flamers. Is that not true, Ashiraya?
I mean, she is adamant that marines should be able to resist direct shots from plasma guns and melta guns, what are a few gout of promethium going to do to them?

How is this relevant to the discussion?

It is relevant because then I can have you argue my point instead of having to do it myself. You have a ton of handy quotes that I do not have, and you are much more experienced at doing that than I am. Please ?

In the words of a lovely neighbourhood Berzerker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpKN-U1-bWk&feature=youtu.be&t=16s

You are not my what? Sorry, cannot put the volume higher here.
Can you not at least lend me your quote library ?

http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/40k-source-and-feats-thread.235176/

This is a powerful weapon, use it with wisdom.

Cadians are pretty awesome. Just like the Death Korps, they train from near birth and have a 1:1 birth:conscription rate. Only the Cadians do it right and end up with worthwhile soldiers instead of brain-dead zombies.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Cadians are pretty awesome. Just like the Death Korps, they train from near birth and have a 1:1 birth:conscription rate. Only the Cadians do it right and end up with worthwhile soldiers instead of brain-dead zombies.

And how are we defining this difference?

Commissars, fluff wise, are not really needed in Cadian armies, because the Cadians are supposedly (although the game rules don't represent it for some reason) disciplined and brave enough not to need them.

Cadian rules suffer from Ultramarine syndrome. While the Smurfs have their own specialisms and awesome stuff, they don't get rules for most of it because they have to be presented as the normal baseline for some reason.

The Elysian "Iron Discipline" rule, fo example, really should be a Cadian rule - who is more disciplined, the Cadian who is raised to war from birth, or the merchant navy soldiers of Elysia?

1hadhq wrote:
Maybe next time they call them Death Corps of War for example... you got your english and happy now. Right ?

I would be.

1hadhq wrote:
Corps is from France IIRC. They used it and everybody copied it.

This doesn't at all matter. Corps is the word used in English, just like the word "Death". Randomly changing it to a "K" makes it meaningless, because "Korps" is not a word in English and their name is English.

Furyou Miko wrote:

1hadhq wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
The only thing I dislike about the Kriegsmen is that they spell "Corps" with a K, "because German". It wouldn't be a problem if the whole name was German, but it isn't.

Todeskorps von Krieg would be their German version.

Todeskorps is never going to be used, because its a euphemism for nazi SS murder squads in Germany.

Except that's what they're actually called in German. With Germans being far more sensitive about references to Nazis than anyone else, I don't see how this is a problem. Also, "Krieg" is German for "war". "Death" is a cool word, but I would like it if they stuck to one language in a name, rather than mashing them together in ways they don't fit. The "of Krieg" part is fine because Krieg is the name of the planet. Worse still, the German word is the same but with a K-C swap - something I really, really hate. It's bad enough that they do K-C swaps at every possible opportunity with the Orks (Kustom Force Field, for example). At least using "Ork" instead of "Orc" serves to distinguish them.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
"Death" is a cool word, but I would like it if they stuck to one language in a name, rather than mashing them together in ways they don't fit.

You have no idea what kind of horrible mix we have to deal with, at least in France . For instance, chapter's name are all in English… except for Grey Knights, which are translated in French, because reasons. Genestealers were always genestealer, until the lastest codex turned them into genovore. And the alpha is now a genocrate. Swooping hawks went from “aigles chasseurs” to “éperviers voltigueurs”. Since Astra Militorum, unit names are not translated anymore, which means in the middle of a French text, we get some English word that looks completely out of place. Especially with IG, because really, “commissar” instead of “commissaire”, it just looks like some horrible, horrible typo, for instance.
It has always been a freaking mess, and it is getting worse and worse.

Oh, I know, but that's a GW translating issue (which I hear is notoriously bad) rather than a name for something in their native language. "Death Korps" is just a bad attempt at making their name look German, but it's their English name (the GW original) that has English in it (Death, of) already.

EDIT: If they were called "Todeskorps von Krieg" in the English version, it would just mean their actual, non-translated name is German. Does that make sense?