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**Kanluwen**

godswildcard wrote:
Not sure if it means anything, but the local GW store just posted on their facebook page:

Games Workshop: Bowie

3 hours ago

Keep your eyes peeled, guys!

Probably the board and stuff though, right? A little to early for SW announcements I think.

Yeah. The board and Ork bundles just went up for preorder.

**A Town Called Malus**

Paradigm wrote:
A Town Called Malus wrote:
Paradigm wrote:
DanielBeaver wrote:

pretre wrote:
Logan Grimnar
Lord of War
Bjorn the Fell-Handed
Now a Lord of War

Bjorn maybe makes sense (especially now that we have the precedent of Gazukull), but Logan? In a slot normally reserved for Titans and Superheavies? That's weird... are they going to make Marneus Calgar or Mephistion into Lords of War next?

Almost certainly. By the time the codex cycle comes back around, Calgar, Mephiston, Swarmy, Vect, Eldrad, Logan, Abbadon, Imhotek and maybe Celestine will be in that LOW slot.

Which is, of course, utter stupidity.

Don't forget about Aun'Va

But Aun'Va is so easy to forget. Calgar may be the greatest tactician since Gulliman, Eldrad the greatest Farseer the Eldar have seen, Swarmlord is thousands of years of evolution made into a weapon... Aun'Va has a floating chair and a funny hat.

Azreal I'll concede, though, the guy is a badass with an AWESOME hat.

By funny I assume you mean fabulous

**Uriels_Flame**

Whumbachumba wrote:

Azrael too.

I'm not liking these Lords of War changes, especially with the lack of beefing them up like we saw with Gaz. Tournaments that are banning LoW now need to rethink it as standard HQ choices are being added to that spot.

Not really - as any named HQ was by opponents permission for a long time.

Now they are basically saying you can't use them unless they are a LOW choice.

It is basically swinging the other way, but understand GW isn't saying you can't use them - it's the TO's.

Of course, FTN wise Ghaz can't be in every ork list at the tourney....

**Greyhunter77**

DV just went back up on the UK site for preorder so its at least another week. On a side note Stormclaw still shows as available.

**Thorgrim Bloodcrow**

I can't think of anything that would make people hate you more than plopping down your 1850 point army and then explaining that it's actually 2100 points but the other HQ guy is free so it's cool.

**Xanrn**

Yes lets make Bjorn a LoW, I mean its not like 3 hp is pretty gak. 5++ is going to bounce hits all day. Its not like you can one shot him, with a 2 out of 3 chance.

This LoW bs better turn out to be like the Monstrous Creature hype that never reared its ugly head, After Tau/Eldar.

Turn Bjorn into a 4+ HP Contemptor with Lazannon/Plasma Cannon, Heavy Flamer and Cyclone Missile with Skyfire if stood still.

Logan is a Chapter Master.

Hell going by Ork Codex the end times are here even Mork and Gork said so, so where the hell is Leman Russ, its the Wolf Time so heel you lazy bastard.

Bring back Primarchs, only LoWs I want.

**pretre**

Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:
I can't think of anything that would make people hate you more than plopping down your 1850 point army and then explaining that it's actually 2100 points but the other HQ guy is free so it's cool.

Lack of imagination.

**Panic**

yeah,
or when say that's cool bro and drop nothing but unbound heralds and cast up 2000pts of free daemons...

Panic...

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

Ragnar69 wrote:
From Warseer gwharsh41

I took some time staring at the unboxing video, here are my findings on the new SW.

So there is a video of some unboxing of stormclaw [1] . In the video, the guy flips through the pages a bit, this shows us the points, upgrades and special rules on the units.

Here is what I gathered from it all.

It seems that SW now have standard Sgt upgrades. I am assuming this is 10pt, like other space marine chapters. Even wolf guard seem to have this, though the Sgt upgrade has nothing aside from (character) different from normal WG.
* Grey hunters seem to remain at the same point cost. They have the same special rules. Their wargear however I cannot really tell. It seems like they still have the same loadout. All come with CC wep and BP, one also has a bolt gun, so they may all have the bolter and just replaced it with special equipment. Seems like they dont have the CSM style "1pt bolter", as the unit is not a strange number and only 1 shows to have a bolter.
* Blood claws again, basing info on the 10pt sgt upgrade, blood claws are now 3pt cheaper. Lost the crazy leadership test or no shooting and gained RAGE!!!
* Wolf Guard with the loadout used in the scenario are 15pt less than wolf guard used in the current box. Combine that with the Sgt upgrade and we are looking at 5pt less per model, most likely taken out of the TDA cost. Seems to put us on par with SM TDA for cost.
* Wolf Lords Dramatic cost decrease, it is hard to compare to SM dudes as orbital bombardment and all, plus wargear differences. I can say that a Wolf lord with frost axe and belt of russ is currently 20pt more than this dude. This guy has furious charge and a bonus weapon skill to top him off. This also does not include the saga, as they have drastically changed it seems.
* All units in the box have ATSKNF, Counter attack and Acute senses (really on acute senses? Maybe we get some more outflank possibilities..)
* Frost axes and swords remain unchanged in profile.
* TDA for SW can now deepstrike, as the wargear section states so.
That is all I could gather, it might all be right, it could all be a horrible ruse from GW. Either or, I like the way it is heading. Blood claws might become usable! Considering that 15 of them is possibly only 180pt and will put out 60 attacks, that ins't all too shabby. Especially if you can prescience them! I wonder if the jump/bike variants will be more than 3pt off.

Does this mean SW TEQ will actually be useful? Cause they are my 2nd favorite of the current Termie models released (After GK).

**40k Wargamer**

Are BOLS rumors accurate? According to them, Grey Hunters are dropping to 10 points per model.

**Andilus Greatsword**

pretre wrote:
By the way, I think he totally made this up. How many 'Makes things troops' characters are there in new codexes?

Definitely, pretty much everything there sounds like utter trash.

Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:
I can't think of anything that would make people hate you more than plopping down your 1850 point army and then explaining that it's actually 2100 points but the other HQ guy is free so it's cool.

Oh c'mon, Ragnar has to be almost 100pts overcosted...

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:
I can't think of anything that would make people hate you more than plopping down your 1850 point army and then explaining that it's actually 2100 points but the other HQ guy is free so it's cool.

There is precedent for it. Remember the current BA codex gives a huge discount for Razorbacks if you give them to assault squads...

**Andilus Greatsword**

Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:
I can't think of anything that would make people hate you more than plopping down your 1850 point army and then explaining that it's actually 2100 points but the other HQ guy is free so it's cool.

There is precedent for it. Remember the current BA codex gives a huge discount for Razorbacks if you give them to assault squads...

That's still not free though, they have to lose their jump packs for that to happen.

Not that we need to talk about it anyway because the rumour is obviously crap.

**pretre**

40k Wargamer wrote:
Are BOLS rumors accurate? According to them, Grey Hunters are dropping to 10 points per model.

That wasn't BOLS, that was Voice of the Gods. He's about 50/50 and I believe he said the squad was dropping 5 pts.

**Khine**

pretre wrote:
40k Wargamer wrote:
Are BOLS rumors accurate? According to them, Grey Hunters are dropping to 10 points per model.

That wasn't BOLS, that was Voice of the Gods. He's about 50/50 and I believe he said the squad was dropping 5 pts.

It seems like the more he says.. the more he is getting wrong lately.

**pretre**

That's the way with a lot of them. My theory is that they get one good tidbit, tell it and like the attention they get. From there...

**streamdragon**

I could see the SQUAD dropping 5 points (so 1ppm) to start. Especially if the "losing bolters but can trade their ccw for one" rumors are true.

**Uriels_Flame**

Ebay is crazy flooded with these kits.

Seems anyone wanting to make an Nobz/Kanz army - this is the time.

Wolves look to be on the cheap as well.

**kb_lock**

Wait wasn't this supposed to be blood angels?

**Thorgrim Bloodcrow**

streamdragon wrote:I could see the SQUAD dropping 5 points (so 1ppm) to start. Especially if the "losing bolters but can trade their ccw for one" rumors are true.

I hope this isn't true. I don't care if their points get changed to more closely match Codex Marines as long as they get to keep the Bolter/BP/CCW combo.

kb_lock wrote:Wait wasn't this supposed to be blood angels?

That was the rumour for a bit but not anymore. I think I may have heard they were next or next after next? Don't quote me on it.

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

kb_lock wrote:
Wait wasn't this supposed to be blood angels?

They're supposedly the next 40k army after SW.

**kb_lock**

Rats, thanks folks

**Fayric**

Pure speculation, as always, but with named characters being cut, and some moving to lords of war slot, it would make sense for GW to release a "supplement: heroes and villans" or simply a lords of war supplement, adding some crazy universal rules for the epic named characters of 40k.

Or perhaps its just me trying to make sense of Gazzys foc slot, hoping for the future to fix it.

**Kal-El**

The back of the Sanctus reach box has a blurb on it saying to for more Sanctus reach product. Just thinking there might be more campaign boxes in future.

**DarkStarSabre**

angelofvengeance wrote:

Wrong- Ragnar Blackmane is over 20yrs old. Logan Grimnar only came out in 5th.

Not to mention they've stated in interviews in the past that they keep some of the older models because they feel they are iconic for the range they are part of and help inspire some of the newer sculpts for the army.

Ragnar, Ulrik
Azrael, Ezekiel
Dante, Tycho, Corbulo
Eldrad, The Phoenix Lords
Abaddon, Kharn, Ahriman, Fabius Bile

- You can see their influence in the newer sculpts.

Some sculpts get updated...but crying against the age of a model when it still holds up rather well compared to some of the newer sculpts that followed...well, that just seems silly.

You may cry out against your Ragnar Blackmane...

But you never had to suffer the Gary Morley Possessed.

**Khine**

DarkWarrior1981 - Over at warseer

Hi there,

I recieved some infos again (same source as last time), that we will see these products quite soon (I assume in August). If this is already common knowledge, feel free to delete or close!

Anyway, these items should appear soon:

Codex Space Wolves
Datacards Space Wolves
Companies of Fenris (this is a painting guide, as far as my source knows)

Little Bird - Over at warseer

Before you see the codex you will see something else new under the sun for Space Wolves. Think in terms of the most glaring current gap in the Space Wolves lineup.

Just incase people haven't seen these.

**Thorgrim Bloodcrow**

Khine wrote:

Little Bird - Over at warseer

Before you see the codex you will see something else new under the sun for Space Wolves. Think in terms of the most glaring current gap in the Space Wolves lineup.

Just incase people haven't seen these.

So a flier then? What else are SW lacking in their lineup?

**tomball0706**

After reading all these pages I could gather very little information about space wolfs sadly! But I got enough to make it worth the read

If SW are indeed the next army to be updated, do you reckon I should but quite a few of the Grey Hunters box sets due to fear of them being Dire Avengerd? Because I've been debating starting a SW army for a while and this seems like a good time to start

Thaaaanks

**H.B.M.C.**

Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:
Khine wrote:

Little Bird - Over at warseer

Before you see the codex you will see something else new under the sun for Space Wolves. Think in terms of the most glaring current gap in the Space Wolves lineup.

Just incase people haven't seen these.

So a flier then? What else are SW lacking in their lineup?

Given the other Marine books have Marines inside other types of armour, the wolves will get a wolf riding a wolf.

**DarkStarSabre**

A wolf riding a wolf HBMC?

Surely you jest.

They aready have Wolf Wolfborn of the Space Wolves riding a giant wolf with his wolf tooth necklace and his wolf claws...

Wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf!