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 Andrew1975 wrote:
Sounds like another GW cash grab. If rumors are correct its just the same game as the last release with some new tiles, counters and missions. It also appears to be a "Limited Run", which means (if the past is any indication) there will be no continuing support for the game.

I don't really get it. Make a game and support it..or don't. 1edition Space Hulk was huge, two expansions plus mission books, WD articles, rules for using other forces...etc.

Most of the extra stuff was gak though.

Original 1st edition Spulk is probably the best standalone game GW ever made.

The Deathwing expansion added a couple of good things and a couple of crappy things, in order to sell some metal figures.

The next expansion added some crappy things, in order to sell some metal figures.

There were some all right add-ons in White Dwarf.

So yet again they do something good (Space Hulk) and then completely drop the ball almost to invalidate the good thing (limited run AGAIN).

This is why GW can't win. For every good idea, they do something along with it to make you facepalm. There is literally zero reason this should be limited. THIS is what they should be pitching to go on shelves at WalMart, Toys R Us and similar places like that. Instead it's going to be yet another "Better spend money right now before it's gone! You have one hour before there's no more left!" kind of gak.

I don't even care that it's the same figures as before, it's the fact that it has to be limited edition which means it'll likely sell out within an hour. That is not a good business idea to do for a regular fething game. This should be regularly available as a gateway into the GW "Hobby".

Hell, the game I originally played that got me into D&D, which later got me into wargaming, was Heroquest, which was a GW game too (or at least the figures were) that I picked up at Toys R Us when I was 9 years old. Hell bring back Warhammer Quest (I would say Mordheim but Mordheim is more like a skirmish wargame than a board game with miniatures) and have it be in the same area. That'll get people interested, especially if you included a thing saying that if you like Space Hulk you can expand to 40k and use the genestealers and terminators for a tyranid and space marine/blood angel army respectively.

But no. Make it limited edition and sell out in an hour.

I'm surprised they didn't go for a deathwing expansion instead of a rerelease. Very lazy imo. It's almost like they enjoy pissing everyone off as much as they can.

Boarding torpedoes sound cool!

Not "cool enough to buy again for $125" cool, but...cool!

 mjl7atlas wrote:
I'm surprised they didn't go for a deathwing expansion instead of a rerelease. Very lazy imo. It's almost like they enjoy pissing everyone off as much as they can.

A limited expansion for a limited release game, even GW doesn't make calls that bad. I guess if the minis were good enough it would still sell though, most people bought Space Hulk based on the value of the miniatures, which was a pretty good value actually.

WayneTheGame wrote:
There is literally zero reason this should be limited. THIS is what they should be pitching to go on shelves at WalMart, Toys R Us and similar places like that.

This should be regularly available as a gateway into the GW "Hobby".

Spot on. Could not say it better.

 TheSecretSquig wrote:
My local Store (not GW) have been 'Conditionally Allocated 3 copies" and no more. They've advertised it on their FB page (no Piccies or details) First come first served!

I've got about 10x that coming in, but that might be differences in sales numbers, or allocation strategies between US and UK offices. GW is always an interesting puzzle to figure out.

 mikhaila wrote:
GW is always an interesting puzzle to figure out.

Has anyone worked out the solution yet?

 Fugazi wrote:

WayneTheGame wrote:
There is literally zero reason this should be limited. THIS is what they should be pitching to go on shelves at WalMart, Toys R Us and similar places like that.

This should be regularly available as a gateway into the GW "Hobby".

Spot on. Could not say it better.

Shelf/display space in stores, both their own and in independent retailers is one reason to keep it a limited release.

Looking at the local walmart and toys-r-us shelves, games as complex as Space Hulk do not seem to be stocked, at least not regularly. My guess (and yes, that is all it is) is that is for a reason, and I suspect that reason is the market for it in the quantities needed to justify those big stores carrying it, just does not exist.

So now that we've established the 'literally zero reasons' is literally not true, perhaps you can quit the hyperbole?

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
Wonder if the release date being around the same time as Operation Icestorm is coincidence?

If not planned, then at least bloody annoying! But as much as I'd love to pick up Space Hulk, Icestorm has been on order for weeks so it wins. If GW had half a brain, of course, they'd not do a limited run and this wouldn't be an issue.

A limited expac for a previously limited release could work if it were a standalone game that could also work with the original.

Why is there nothing on the GW site?

 Orlanth wrote:
Why is there nothing on the GW site?

Because of the excellent "It doesn't exist until 7 days beforehand" marketing strategy.

alphaecho wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Why is there nothing on the GW site?

Because of the excellent "It doesn't exist until 7 days beforehand" marketing strategy.

These guys give the word incompetence new meaning.

I have so far found only one reference to the new release other than here and that was a notification on Gifts for Geeks that they were out of stock already.

Also if they are going to breach trades descriptions and rerelease a game that was originally a limited edition they should at least plug it and no longer leave it a limited edition.
GW sounds desperate, to pull this, and imcompetent to pull it so badly.

 CptJake wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:

WayneTheGame wrote:
There is literally zero reason this should be limited. THIS is what they should be pitching to go on shelves at WalMart, Toys R Us and similar places like that.

This should be regularly available as a gateway into the GW "Hobby".

Spot on. Could not say it better.

Shelf/display space in stores, both their own and in independent retailers is one reason to keep it a limited release.

Looking at the local walmart and toys-r-us shelves, games as complex as Space Hulk do not seem to be stocked, at least not regularly. My guess (and yes, that is all it is) is that is for a reason, and I suspect that reason is the market for it in the quantities needed to justify those big stores carrying it, just does not exist.

So now that we've established the 'literally zero reasons' is literally not true, perhaps you can quit the hyperbole?

Yeah, I hazard to guess that they'd pass stocking on a $100+ board game in the first place. Especially Wal-Mart.

I'm also guessing that GW wouldn't want to tie up its manufacturing trying to keep Wal-Mart and Toys'R'Us stores stocked, especially given the low margins they'll get there.

But zero reasons.

 Kanluwen wrote:

I'll only buy it if the Marines are Deathwing.

Yeah. I'm sure it'll sell but I wish it was Death Wing.

WayneTheGame wrote:
So yet again they do something good (Space Hulk) and then completely drop the ball almost to invalidate the good thing (limited run AGAIN).

This is why GW can't win. For every good idea, they do something along with it to make you facepalm. There is literally zero reason this should be limited. THIS is what they should be pitching to go on shelves at WalMart, Toys R Us and similar places like that. Instead it's going to be yet another "Better spend money right now before it's gone! You have one hour before there's no more left!" kind of gak.

I don't even care that it's the same figures as before, it's the fact that it has to be limited edition which means it'll likely sell out within an hour. That is not a good business idea to do for a regular fething game. This should be regularly available as a gateway into the GW "Hobby".

Hell, the game I originally played that got me into D&D, which later got me into wargaming, was Heroquest, which was a GW game too (or at least the figures were) that I picked up at Toys R Us when I was 9 years old. Hell bring back Warhammer Quest (I would say Mordheim but Mordheim is more like a skirmish wargame than a board game with miniatures) and have it be in the same area. That'll get people interested, especially if you included a thing saying that if you like Space Hulk you can expand to 40k and use the genestealers and terminators for a tyranid and space marine/blood angel army respectively.

But no. Make it limited edition and sell out in an hour.

I agree with every thing you've said here 100%
I don't know what there problem is. It would always sell. They could bring out expansions. I. Don't. Understand.

Also...I got mine off ebay for a LOT of money last year. If it's exactly the same I will be pretty annoyed

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Yeah. I'm sure it'll sell but I wish it was Death Wing.

As a Deathwing player, after Dark Vengeance etc. I don't really need more DW Terminators...so unless they were like really gorgeous Deathwing minis, it's not a selling point for me. I think it would be actually cool if they were like Imperial Fists etc. Just something fresh out of nowhere. However at this point I bet they're same BA termies as in 2009 edition.

If this is indeed a new edition of space hulk I will certainly be buying it. Loved the last edition and it was actually the only GW game that I played, probably due to the all included nature of the box.

I hate to imagine how fast it sells out though. The last limited edition thing that was produced was the force field generator thing that was generally considered to be beyond ugly and overpriced yet still sold out before the first day was over. Imagine a reasonably priced, fan favourite board game that people actually asked for?

The last Spulk released wasn't a limited edition.

It was however a production run that was limited to circa 70,000 copies.

This could be seen more as a second printing.

If the minis are the same this is one I will pass on. The last lot haven't left the sprue yet!

The question is, do I buy this as I've held back from spending an extortionate amount of money on feebay for years, or hold off for dark eldar.

feth sake.

I hope this is the same as i was pissed that i missed the 1st run. (came out a week or so before pay day for me)

And there is no way im buying the termies for around £10 each like people are asking on ebay.

So if it does pop up i dont mind buying a copy or possibly even 2 for the models.

Well, I won't buy it if it's the same (I own all editions and expansions and they cannot lure me with small additions). But I'll propably get another Broodlord for conversion from Ebay. The model has some minor faults (elongated skulls on the base) but compared to the abomination they still sell it's just in another league. I have nearly all Stealer related models (including hybrids, magi, familiars and Patriarchs) just because... GENESTEALERS... but not this model with stupid pose, chitin muscles and four claws.

WayneTheGame wrote:
So yet again they do something good (Space Hulk) and then completely drop the ball almost to invalidate the good thing (limited run AGAIN).

This is why GW can't win. For every good idea, they do something along with it to make you facepalm. There is literally zero reason this should be limited. THIS is what they should be pitching to go on shelves at WalMart, Toys R Us and similar places like that. Instead it's going to be yet another "Better spend money right now before it's gone! You have one hour before there's no more left!" kind of gak.

I don't even care that it's the same figures as before, it's the fact that it has to be limited edition which means it'll likely sell out within an hour. That is not a good business idea to do for a regular fething game. This should be regularly available as a gateway into the GW "Hobby".

Hell, the game I originally played that got me into D&D, which later got me into wargaming, was Heroquest, which was a GW game too (or at least the figures were) that I picked up at Toys R Us when I was 9 years old. Hell bring back Warhammer Quest (I would say Mordheim but Mordheim is more like a skirmish wargame than a board game with miniatures) and have it be in the same area. That'll get people interested, especially if you included a thing saying that if you like Space Hulk you can expand to 40k and use the genestealers and terminators for a tyranid and space marine/blood angel army respectively.

But no. Make it limited edition and sell out in an hour.

Take two tranquilizers and a dose of reality and calm down.

1) All boardgames of this type are "limited editions". They just don't advertise it that way, and don't sell the way this one does. Many of the best boardgames in my shop are constantly out of print for months at a time, waiting for a new production run. There isn't a magical machine that makes boardgames. Components are made all over the world, shipped to a packaging house, then shipped out again to warehouses. Make too many and you tie up dollars you need for other games and pay warehouse fees. Make too little and you leave money on the table. Manufacturers, Distributors, and Retailers all have some version of "order too little or too many".

2) How many did GW make? When will it sell out? Anyone know?....Nope, neither do I. Nor does GW. Plenty of time to yell about it after we see if they missed the mark or not.

3) How many more Shulk could they have sold last time? 5k? 10k? 20k? I was told they printed 80k. I have friends printing very good boardgames that start off with 10-15k and are committing their whole company to the venture. 80k last time was huge. And a huge success. Could have sold more, absolutely, but how many? And did being "limited" factor into it with gamers rushing after anything 'limited'. Say it again, makes any game taste better, sell more. Except for.......

4) Dreadfleet. Lets just not talk about it. Moving on. Don't look at it, it will follow you home.

5) They reprinted something we all wanted to see reprinted. Huzzah!! Lets go buy some. Maybe they will do it again. They seem to be remembering they like money. That's a good thing for GW. What's rule #1? "SELL MORE LEAD"

6) There are reasons not to sell into mass market. I'd need a few pages and more desire to go into them.

7) Heroquest was a Milton Bradley game. GW made the pieces for them, had a hand in the artwork. Not sure what % overall was theirs. Similar to Battle Masters, Space Crusade.

It's ok to scream at GW. Trust me, I have more anger for GW festering within me than 99.5% of Dakka, (the other .5% scare me). I get to scream at them to their face, and my family depends on me selling their stuff. Not great at times. My sales and rep and I both agree that melting his ears off doesn't help me get models, i try not to.

But....You don't yell at someone for doing something RIGHT! We've all been hoping for a Space Hulk reprint. They are also giving us new boards and missions. (And a reason to buy another copy). I'm actually ok with the pricing. Maybe wait a bit and see what happens. Plenty of time to yell at GW later.


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 Jackal wrote:
I hope this is the same as i was pissed that i missed the 1st run. (came out a week or so before pay day for me)

And there is no way im buying the termies for around £10 each like people are asking on ebay.

So if it does pop up i dont mind buying a copy or possibly even 2 for the models.

Same game essentially. Rulebook, miniatures, and dice are the same. Corridors will be a different set. Missions will be new. Plays the same as the originally printing.

I don't even know how to react to this...

especially when I called the outright Clown shoe GW gak that we have come to love.

Can't even laugh at the irony here either. 25th, 125....

 Commander Cain wrote:
If this is indeed a new edition of space hulk I will certainly be buying it. Loved the last edition and it was actually the only GW game that I played, probably due to the all included nature of the box.

I hate to imagine how fast it sells out though. The last limited edition thing that was produced was the force field generator thing that was generally considered to be beyond ugly and overpriced yet still sold out before the first day was over. Imagine a reasonably priced, fan favourite board game that people actually asked for?

Significantly more made.

With the FF generator, i was a lucky store that was allowed to order one fething box.

I've got 27 copies of Space Hulk coming in, possibly more.

Check with local retailers, reserve a copy of it. Because I agree with you that it might sell fast from their website. Then again, who knows? Maybe they say 'limited' and have 100k copies

 Flashman wrote:

 mikhaila wrote:
GW is always an interesting puzzle to figure out.

Has anyone worked out the solution yet?

We've found most of the border, but there are a few key pieces missing.


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 mikhaila wrote:
Same game essentially. Rulebook, miniatures, and dice are the same. Corridors will be a different set. Missions will be new. Plays the same as the originally printing.

Disappointing. The tiles are the one thing that I'm not happy with from the previous one ... Mine have all warped, so not at all excited about new ones.

New miniatures would have potentially meant another buy for me.


Having said that, even re-releasing it with no changes would have still been a good move... Still plenty of people looking for this game.

Congrats, GW. I'll likely buy a copy again. Sold the terminators alone for $120, still have the rest of it. Got my first copy free, too. I liked it, and if I can get enjoyment out of it again, make bigger maps, and have some fun...win!! If they do something insane and put crap like Space Wolves in though, I'd avoid it like a herpes ridden coed (that everyone knows is infected).

So not just some new tiles, but all new tiles? Hmm... very conflicted.