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 Brother SRM wrote:
I was playing in a tournament and I had a squad of Guardsmen on foot. They went through dangerous terrain, so I rolled 10 dice, got a single 1, failed the armor save, and removed one lasgun guy. My opponent made a stink about the fact I didn't roll for each individual model in the unit, which would have taken exponentially longer and we were pressed for time. So, to oblige him, I went back, moved every model back, and rolled a die for each individual guy. The same exact model I previously removed was the only one to fail his rolls, and I stared my opponent in the eye as I deliberately removed him. The game was miserable before it, and miserable after it.

I played a game years ago against a guy who would just yell "Don't mess up!" before every. Single. Dieroll. I don't know if that qualifies him as TFG in the traditional sense, but it was absolutely infuriating and I never played him again.


I was playing against this guy who, when moving a squad of guardsmen through dangerous terrain, decided to ignore the rules and just roll collectively and take off a lasgun guardsman to avoid taking anything more worthwhile. I naturally called him out on it and made him redo the rolls. He then glared at me when he removed the lasgun guy, who died anyway.

Tbh, that doesn't qualify as a TFG story at all.
   
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 DarknessEternal wrote:
 Jancoran wrote:
Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.


He was right. Master of Ambush gives "Your Warlord and three non-vehicle units of your choice have the Infiltrate special rule."

This gives the Necron Warriors Infiltrate. Since they have Infiltrate, so does their Dedicated Transport. The Warlord trait gave nothing to the vehicle.
.


Ahem.

Necrons are an Alliance of Convenience.

Which as the rule states in the 40k Rulebook, quote: "Cannot benefit from the Warlord Trait of an Allies of Convenience Warlord"

Thus it is illegal.
   
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On the Internet

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 DarknessEternal wrote:
 Jancoran wrote:
Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.


He was right. Master of Ambush gives "Your Warlord and three non-vehicle units of your choice have the Infiltrate special rule."

This gives the Necron Warriors Infiltrate. Since they have Infiltrate, so does their Dedicated Transport. The Warlord trait gave nothing to the vehicle.
.


Ahem.

Necrons are an Alliance of Convenience.

Which as the rule states in the 40k Rulebook, quote: "Cannot benefit from the Warlord Trait of an Allies of Convenience Warlord"

Thus it is illegal.

Page 125 of the core rule book #3 under Strategic Traits is the Master of Ambush trait. I also didn't see anything about the Warlord not being a Necron in that original post so there is no reason to assume it's the similar rule from the CSM codex that gives D3 units Infiltrate.
   
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 DarknessEternal wrote:
 Jancoran wrote:
Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.


He was right. Master of Ambush gives "Your Warlord and three non-vehicle units of your choice have the Infiltrate special rule."

This gives the Necron Warriors Infiltrate. Since they have Infiltrate, so does their Dedicated Transport. The Warlord trait gave nothing to the vehicle.
 Jancoran wrote:

Then tries to tell me the game is over because I started the turn without anything on the board turn 4 (again, obviously wrong and half my army was scheduled to show up turn 4 automatically!)


He was potentially right. If you went first, you did lose since you had nothing on the board at the end of game turn 3. If you went second, then the game continues.

The "lose the game" check only happens at the end of game turns, not at the start of game turns or player turns.


NON vehicles. Yes. Not going there.

As for the other issue, no. If you END YOUR turn without anything then you lose. And I obviously did not.

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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 DarknessEternal wrote:
 Jancoran wrote:
Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.


He was right. Master of Ambush gives "Your Warlord and three non-vehicle units of your choice have the Infiltrate special rule."

This gives the Necron Warriors Infiltrate. Since they have Infiltrate, so does their Dedicated Transport. The Warlord trait gave nothing to the vehicle.
.


Ahem.

Necrons are an Alliance of Convenience.

Which as the rule states in the 40k Rulebook, quote: "Cannot benefit from the Warlord Trait of an Allies of Convenience Warlord"

Thus it is illegal.

Page 125 of the core rule book #3 under Strategic Traits is the Master of Ambush trait. I also didn't see anything about the Warlord not being a Necron in that original post so there is no reason to assume it's the similar rule from the CSM codex that gives D3 units Infiltrate.


*Checks* Huh, didn't realize there was a copy of that, it's the exact same as CSM's, never roll on anything but the CSM table so I suppose it slipped the mind.
   
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On the Internet

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 DarknessEternal wrote:
 Jancoran wrote:
Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.


He was right. Master of Ambush gives "Your Warlord and three non-vehicle units of your choice have the Infiltrate special rule."

This gives the Necron Warriors Infiltrate. Since they have Infiltrate, so does their Dedicated Transport. The Warlord trait gave nothing to the vehicle.
.


Ahem.

Necrons are an Alliance of Convenience.

Which as the rule states in the 40k Rulebook, quote: "Cannot benefit from the Warlord Trait of an Allies of Convenience Warlord"

Thus it is illegal.

Page 125 of the core rule book #3 under Strategic Traits is the Master of Ambush trait. I also didn't see anything about the Warlord not being a Necron in that original post so there is no reason to assume it's the similar rule from the CSM codex that gives D3 units Infiltrate.


*Checks* Huh, didn't realize there was a copy of that, it's the exact same as CSM's, never roll on anything but the CSM table so I suppose it slipped the mind.

It'd not exactly the same though as the Strategic one gives it to 3 units, not D3 units.
   
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DaPino wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
Apparently one of our two FLGSs were witness to one this weekend.

Now, bear in mind this info is second hand as I was told this story today when at the store.

But a guy turned up to a tourney, who, lets just say, had a very... odd way of playing. He literally destroyed his units, such a crushing a unit of Wraiths and also to go so far as to hurl one out he door of the FLGS when he was caught misinterpreting a rule or something (I think. I told you this was second hand), as this was "How he was taught to play at his other store."


At my local GW, they call it ultimate warhammer and they'd actually bring hammers to smash dead units.

That's utterly fethed up. What a massive waste of time, money, and paint.
As a person who carefully maintains every model, that is so WRONG to my conciousness...
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DO THAT, ESPECIALLY TO MODELS THAT ARE SOLD FOR 5x THEIR WORTH!
I wish... I had brain bleach.

EDIT=Groxshit. No google results whatsoever for that crime against the hobby.

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Well honestly.
I have been TFG, my old Blood Angels list was nasty, 5th and 6th I never lost one match with it it was very simple Mephiston, Chaplain, Lemartes, multiple DC squads, Stormravens. The tactics was very simple they all had JP's. I never went for an objective because I had nothing to keep it so I just went yard. Most of the games ended before end of turn 3 because of boarding. To help with finding opponents I used to give a free 200 pionts to them extra. This was very hillarious when a friend feom the UK came down ( happeneds to work for GW)and played a game of apocolypse with us. It was 2v2 3k each or something like that. We rolled for team's. Then we set up. I placed Mephiston right out front. The partner he had said," You know what that model does right". His reply was yes it is all right I got it. Then everyone set up. My partner just set up a defencive force for us and told me go nuts do not let up. Well 2 turns later mephiston had killed his hq and 1k worth of his force solo. The DC killed his tanks and was working on the remainder of his army. His teamate was trying to get troops over to stop the slaughter. Needless to say the game ended soon. And was asked is the guy do that every game. I said sure if you let me lol. 6 attacks on the charge and 5 base at str10 is nasty

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Dark Angels-7800
Sisters of Battle- 5000
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Verviedi wrote:
DaPino wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
Apparently one of our two FLGSs were witness to one this weekend.

Now, bear in mind this info is second hand as I was told this story today when at the store.

But a guy turned up to a tourney, who, lets just say, had a very... odd way of playing. He literally destroyed his units, such a crushing a unit of Wraiths and also to go so far as to hurl one out he door of the FLGS when he was caught misinterpreting a rule or something (I think. I told you this was second hand), as this was "How he was taught to play at his other store."


At my local GW, they call it ultimate warhammer and they'd actually bring hammers to smash dead units.

That's utterly fethed up. What a massive waste of time, money, and paint.
As a person who carefully maintains every model, that is so WRONG to my conciousness...
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DO THAT, ESPECIALLY TO MODELS THAT ARE SOLD FOR 5x THEIR WORTH!
I wish... I had brain bleach.

EDIT=Groxshit. No google results whatsoever for that crime against the hobby.


I will echo this sentiment. I love my models. If anyone seriously suggested to smash them I'd give them a strange look and politely tell them to go feth them self.

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30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
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 Jancoran wrote:
Weirdo. Maybe he needs a sounding board for his lists. Local forums are good for that. I dont post many lists HERE because you either get what i call the sniper, who makes some one liner about it as if that says it all, or you get the guy whose telling you a hundred glittering generalities, like "Mutilators just arent points efficient" instead of looking at what it does IN the LIST which was the point of posting it in the first place.

TFG's are on forums 24/7 I guess. hehehehe.


Guyz from our lgs sit on a russian warforge forum. You think dakka is filled with flavor-of-the month and "take a heldrake" stuff? Well, it feels like a relaxed casual approach compared to what's happening there
Besides, 'the inquisition' pulled a warning on me cause i stated that tactical marines are good and the only logical solution they could find was that i was trolling and flaming

But even though the local guyz are uber-competitive, they're rather fine to play with and with the new awesome ork dex, my footsloggas are doing fine and actually counter the meta of low-model count cheezy stuff to the point of pulling wins quite occasionally. There are a few new guyz with "that's all what i've got" sm lists. And in all fairness, i like this games much more. The funny part is ork's win rate is almost identical vs fun casual lists and uber-cheezy tournament lists...probably if there was a pure serpent-spam list around, i'd loose every game but the eldar guy runs 3 knights + serpents. And knights are more than manageble with orks.

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There is not this idea.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I will echo this sentiment. I love my models. If anyone seriously suggested to smash them I'd give them a strange look and politely tell them to go feth them self.


I can't even imagine this being a thing that would actually happen. Seriously. I can't even imagine someone deliberately destroying a model. Ugh.
   
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 toasteroven wrote:
 TheCustomLime wrote:
I will echo this sentiment. I love my models. If anyone seriously suggested to smash them I'd give them a strange look and politely tell them to go feth them self.


I can't even imagine this being a thing that would actually happen. Seriously. I can't even imagine someone deliberately destroying a model. Ugh.


Uhhh, I did that once. But it was more out of rage after some people on the forums here taught me their interpretation of the Blood Tide thing in the 5e Grey Knights Codex. About a year later someone set me straight.

Similar bursts of rage have come from learning about stuff in World of Warcraft. Like Theresa, the human woman captured by the undead, who proceded to torture, mutilate and lobotomize her into being a mindslave or something. Or the incident at Aldor Rise on Draenor, where the Orcs violated the Draenei priestesses, cut their throats and threw them off the cliff. And the third one was in the upcoming expansion (so I guess spoilers incoming if anyone here plays WoW), where the Iron Horde murder Draenei and use their souls to fuel a portal to Azeroth through which they'll invade. And then later they end up murdering yet more Draenei and use their souls to empower their evil magic to destroy the Draenei for some reason. I dunno why they're after killing the Draenei in the alternate timeline, since the guy who set the whole thing in motion was pissed off at main timeline people, and presumably Gul'dan didn't get manipulated by Kil'Jaeden into thinking the Draenei were plotting to wipe out the Orcs. I dunno, whatever. Anyways, those bursts of rage ended up with many hundreds of dead Orcs in-game. Because feth those fething Orcs.
   
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 Pouncey wrote:
 toasteroven wrote:
 TheCustomLime wrote:
I will echo this sentiment. I love my models. If anyone seriously suggested to smash them I'd give them a strange look and politely tell them to go feth them self.


I can't even imagine this being a thing that would actually happen. Seriously. I can't even imagine someone deliberately destroying a model. Ugh.


Uhhh, I did that once. But it was more out of rage after some people on the forums here taught me their interpretation of the Blood Tide thing in the 5e Grey Knights Codex. About a year later someone set me straight.

Similar bursts of rage have come from learning about stuff in World of Warcraft. Like Theresa, the human woman captured by the undead, who proceded to torture, mutilate and lobotomize her into being a mindslave or something. Or the incident at Aldor Rise on Draenor, where the Orcs violated the Draenei priestesses, cut their throats and threw them off the cliff. And the third one was in the upcoming expansion (so I guess spoilers incoming if anyone here plays WoW), where the Iron Horde murder Draenei and use their souls to fuel a portal to Azeroth through which they'll invade. And then later they end up murdering yet more Draenei and use their souls to empower their evil magic to destroy the Draenei for some reason. I dunno why they're after killing the Draenei in the alternate timeline, since the guy who set the whole thing in motion was pissed off at main timeline people, and presumably Gul'dan didn't get manipulated by Kil'Jaeden into thinking the Draenei were plotting to wipe out the Orcs. I dunno, whatever. Anyways, those bursts of rage ended up with many hundreds of dead Orcs in-game. Because feth those fething Orcs.


War. War never changes. fethed up gak happens in war. Erm, but this should either be taken to PM or have a new topic devoted to it.

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30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far!  
   
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 TheCustomLime wrote:
 Pouncey wrote:
 toasteroven wrote:
 TheCustomLime wrote:
I will echo this sentiment. I love my models. If anyone seriously suggested to smash them I'd give them a strange look and politely tell them to go feth them self.


I can't even imagine this being a thing that would actually happen. Seriously. I can't even imagine someone deliberately destroying a model. Ugh.


Uhhh, I did that once. But it was more out of rage after some people on the forums here taught me their interpretation of the Blood Tide thing in the 5e Grey Knights Codex. About a year later someone set me straight.

Similar bursts of rage have come from learning about stuff in World of Warcraft. Like Theresa, the human woman captured by the undead, who proceded to torture, mutilate and lobotomize her into being a mindslave or something. Or the incident at Aldor Rise on Draenor, where the Orcs violated the Draenei priestesses, cut their throats and threw them off the cliff. And the third one was in the upcoming expansion (so I guess spoilers incoming if anyone here plays WoW), where the Iron Horde murder Draenei and use their souls to fuel a portal to Azeroth through which they'll invade. And then later they end up murdering yet more Draenei and use their souls to empower their evil magic to destroy the Draenei for some reason. I dunno why they're after killing the Draenei in the alternate timeline, since the guy who set the whole thing in motion was pissed off at main timeline people, and presumably Gul'dan didn't get manipulated by Kil'Jaeden into thinking the Draenei were plotting to wipe out the Orcs. I dunno, whatever. Anyways, those bursts of rage ended up with many hundreds of dead Orcs in-game. Because feth those fething Orcs.


War. War never changes. fethed up gak happens in war. Erm, but this should either be taken to PM or have a new topic devoted to it.


Sorry, I tend to go on tangents. And tangents of tangents. It's kinda how my brain works, one thing leads to the next leads to the next leads to the next...

Other than the one I shared on the first page, I don't really have any TFG stories. No one really made a habit of being a jerk when I played at the local store, and for the past decade the only games I've played have been at home.
   
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 Jancoran wrote:

NON vehicles. Yes. Not going there.

Because you were wrong,
 Jancoran wrote:

As for the other issue, no. If you END YOUR turn without anything then you lose. And I obviously did not.


Wrong here too. That isn't the rule. I already stated the rule for you.

"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."

This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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Taffy17 wrote:
Frozocrone wrote:
Taffy17 wrote:
There's a guy at who games at my local GW, he's looks about 50, and writes really cheesy lists and when you play him he's very patronising and every time you ask some things' toughness will pull out his codex just in case you don't believe him.

In one of my first games ever last year he used 3 tervigons against me in 500pts. He showed up to a 750pts tournament with 3 Wraithknights. Within weeks of new space wolves he had a 750pt drop pod list including murder fang with 3 pods falling on the 1st turn.

I talk to the other guys I game with and they all just tell me he's really good at writing lists, but when does writing good lists turn into spoiling the fun?


Was that guy playing Unbound?


Only with the Wraithknights, the Tervigons was still when you could apparently have one as an HQ and 2 as Troops.


Looks like he didn't pay the Termagant tax for the Tervigons...and if that was the dex Nids currently have, he cheated, 3 Tervigons is over 500.

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From 'Sudden Death Victory':

If at the end of any game turn, one player has no models on the battlefield his opponent automatically wins.

A 'game turn' consists of both player's turns. It is entirely possible for the player who goes first to end his 'player turn' with models on the table and yet have no models on the table at the end of the 'game turn' after his opponent finishes his shooting and close combat in his 'player turn'.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Two TFG stories, one tournament. I was playing in a small local tournament with my Khorne Marines list (shortly after 5th edition came out, I believe). I had a Terminator Lord with deep striking terminators, two squads of Berserkers in Rhinos, two squads of 3 obliterators, a plasma cannon dread and a TL lascannon/missile dread. I was having a terrible day and had lost my first two games. One loss wasn't even fun, with the game ending his turn 4. The other loss was vs. orks and was REALLY close, but I lost at the end by a point or two and really enjoyed it.

My first loss came against Grey Knights and their shiny new 5th edition codex. I didn't get to the store very often and so I didn't know anything about the new codex. I don't remember much about his list, but he had an HQ that spawned "ghost terminators" when he was wounded, plus a big squad of paladins. Other than that he had two Rifledreads and a couple units of power suit knights with halberds (don't remember specifics). Because of my inexperience with his codex, I kept asking questions about things. I was getting frustrated because of how bad I was losing, and asked a question (though I don't remember what it was). His response was "It works like all the other [things] work!" like I was an idiot. I got pissed off and almost lost my temper, but i just said "Excuse me, but I don't know anything about the Grey Knights. I don't about [thing] because I don't know about [other thing]. I didn't give him a very good sportsman score, though to be honest I probably didn't get one either.

Game three I was up against a Tau player. He had Farsight and a full retinue of suits, mostly with plasma guns and missile launchers (the old fireknife combo that was popular). Aside from that I just remember two squads of Firewarriors in Warfish and a Hammerhead.

Anyway, the game starts and goes downhill for me fast. His shooting blows up both my dreads and both my rhinos. I could already tell this game wasn't going to be fun because of the gloating. Every successful hit, every failed wounds he would comment on. When the dreads went down he was insufferable. I kept my head down and played the game, deep striking my Lord near Farsight, though they deviated way too far away for them to be useful. I moved my my beserkers through terrain and ran them towards the enemy, taking a risk that he'd shoot at my Lord. He took the bait and poured everything he had into killing my HQ and took great delight in wiping out the whole squad. I couldn't make any of my saves and he basked in my failure. On my turn I moved my (largely ignored) Berserkers up and attacked his lines. One squad hit his Firewarriors, the other his Hammerhead. This was when the true nature of his TFG-ness emerged. In 4th, skimmers always counted as moving and required a 6+ to hit in melee. In 5th, they only counted as moving if you actually moved them, and even then it was a 4+ to hit. He had parked his Hammerhead immobile the whole game, and so I rushed up and hit it with krak grenades and a power fist. This turned into an argument, and the game stopped as he looked in his BRB, the Tau Codex, back to the BRB, and then to a TO and some of his friends. Finally, after what seemed like forever he comes back and slumps into his chair. I dominated the rest of the game as two untouched Berserkers squads rolled over his army. Whenever I'd ask for an armor save he'd begrudgingly grab a die, throw it and then sit down again.

10/10 would not play again.
   
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 DMDaddy0 wrote:
Two TFG stories, one tournament. I was playing in a small local tournament with my Khorne Marines list (shortly after 5th edition came out, I believe). I had a Terminator Lord with deep striking terminators, two squads of Berserkers in Rhinos, two squads of 3 obliterators, a plasma cannon dread and a TL lascannon/missile dread. I was having a terrible day and had lost my first two games. One loss wasn't even fun, with the game ending his turn 4. The other loss was vs. orks and was REALLY close, but I lost at the end by a point or two and really enjoyed it.

My first loss came against Grey Knights and their shiny new 5th edition codex. I didn't get to the store very often and so I didn't know anything about the new codex. I don't remember much about his list, but he had an HQ that spawned "ghost terminators" when he was wounded, plus a big squad of paladins. Other than that he had two Rifledreads and a couple units of power suit knights with halberds (don't remember specifics). Because of my inexperience with his codex, I kept asking questions about things. I was getting frustrated because of how bad I was losing, and asked a question (though I don't remember what it was). His response was "It works like all the other [things] work!" like I was an idiot. I got pissed off and almost lost my temper, but i just said "Excuse me, but I don't know anything about the Grey Knights. I don't about [thing] because I don't know about [other thing]. I didn't give him a very good sportsman score, though to be honest I probably didn't get one either.

Game three I was up against a Tau player. He had Farsight and a full retinue of suits, mostly with plasma guns and missile launchers (the old fireknife combo that was popular). Aside from that I just remember two squads of Firewarriors in Warfish and a Hammerhead.

Anyway, the game starts and goes downhill for me fast. His shooting blows up both my dreads and both my rhinos. I could already tell this game wasn't going to be fun because of the gloating. Every successful hit, every failed wounds he would comment on. When the dreads went down he was insufferable. I kept my head down and played the game, deep striking my Lord near Farsight, though they deviated way too far away for them to be useful. I moved my my beserkers through terrain and ran them towards the enemy, taking a risk that he'd shoot at my Lord. He took the bait and poured everything he had into killing my HQ and took great delight in wiping out the whole squad. I couldn't make any of my saves and he basked in my failure. On my turn I moved my (largely ignored) Berserkers up and attacked his lines. One squad hit his Firewarriors, the other his Hammerhead. This was when the true nature of his TFG-ness emerged. In 4th, skimmers always counted as moving and required a 6+ to hit in melee. In 5th, they only counted as moving if you actually moved them, and even then it was a 4+ to hit. He had parked his Hammerhead immobile the whole game, and so I rushed up and hit it with krak grenades and a power fist. This turned into an argument, and the game stopped as he looked in his BRB, the Tau Codex, back to the BRB, and then to a TO and some of his friends. Finally, after what seemed like forever he comes back and slumps into his chair. I dominated the rest of the game as two untouched Berserkers squads rolled over his army. Whenever I'd ask for an armor save he'd begrudgingly grab a die, throw it and then sit down again.

10/10 would not play again.


That Tau player was salty xD Can only imagine how much worse he'll have been now that they have their shiny new toys..

EDIT: Came across this article, not really TFG in the sense that the attitude was poor(although you could argue that fielding such a list is) but justice is served

http://imgur.com/gallery/V0gND

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Not to be contrary DMDaddy0, but Grey Knights came out in 2011, 5th came out in 2008.
   
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 DarknessEternal wrote:
 Jancoran wrote:

NON vehicles. Yes. Not going there.

Because you were wrong,
 Jancoran wrote:

As for the other issue, no. If you END YOUR turn without anything then you lose. And I obviously did not.


Wrong here too. That isn't the rule. I already stated the rule for you.


And youre not paying attention. which is fine.

I went second. so no.

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 ClockworkZion wrote:
Not to be contrary DMDaddy0, but Grey Knights came out in 2011, 5th
Came out in 2008.


Fair enough, its been a while. It still would have been 5TH ed by then.
   
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 DMDaddy0 wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
Not to be contrary DMDaddy0, but Grey Knights came out in 2011, 5th
Came out in 2008.


Fair enough, its been a while. It still would have been 5TH ed by then.

Oh yeah, still 5th, just not early 5th.
   
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Frozocrone wrote:

EDIT: Came across this article, not really TFG in the sense that the attitude was poor(although you could argue that fielding such a list is) but justice is served
http://imgur.com/gallery/V0gND


Yep, one of the best stories

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'Story' being right, as that's an entirely fictional invention instead of what actually happened.

 
   
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 Portugal Jones wrote:
'Story' being right, as that's an entirely fictional invention instead of what actually happened.
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Know what's better than vague elitist gak? Actually sharing details

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 jreilly89 wrote:
Frozocrone wrote:

EDIT: Came across this article, not really TFG in the sense that the attitude was poor(although you could argue that fielding such a list is) but justice is served
http://imgur.com/gallery/V0gND


Yep, one of the best stories


No.

I saw that when it did the rounds at Reddit, and those guys, not being familiar with 40k, bought it hook, line and sinker.

But you, I assume, are a 40k player. You should know better.

It's a funny situation, but it's disingenuous to portray the White Scars player as cheesy or a power gamer.

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Used to play against a friend who discovered necron-air soon as 6th came out. Played nothing but that list for months. Me and other people in the gaming group would tell him to change his list cause it just wasnt fun to play against him, he would laugh and say we needed to get better.

Two months later the tau codex came out. I gave everything I could interceptor and skyfire (and ran 2 riptides and a unit of suits with twin missile packs AND missilesides). I tabled him on turn three.

Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire. Once I beat him for the third time in a row he realized how unfun it is to play against a WAAC list and we are all playing fun fluffy lists again and no-one is mad at anyone lol.

As a side note I held onto a copy of that list, in case it is needed again in the future haha.

 
   
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 Portugal Jones wrote:
'Story' being right, as that's an entirely fictional invention instead of what actually happened.


:O that makes me sad

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 TNT925 wrote:
Used to play against a friend who discovered necron-air soon as 6th came out.

Two months later the tau codex came out.


6th came in July 2012. Tau Codex is from 2013 (march or april)...

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