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2014/11/10 13:46:00
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Cool. Ok we have to tempt Hulk with a donut. The rest of them meet Mr. Grendel bolt action... If only Hydra had a gun!
EDIT: I like Hulk, He's got issues.
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2014/11/10 15:03:00
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wolverine later became even bigger thanks to the X-Men movies/Hugh Jackman.
IIRC there's a joke that Wolverine must have been cloned or something, because he used to appear in so many comics and on so many teams, even on covers of comics that he didn't appear in, to sell said comic. This was looong before the X-Men movie came out, before even the '90's cartoon I think. The movie might've brought Wolverine to the awareness of some of the non-comic reading world, but there's a big reason he was up front and centre for all of that series, and his own spin-off.
Gitzbitah wrote:You know Alph, perhaps that's the idea! What if the comic book publishing houses have seen the writing on the wall, and know the death of their medium is coming?
Marvel, at least, is trapped in crappy writing. They're like GW in a way: pumping out poorly-thought fight-obsessed rubbish to sell to sweaty fanboys, scratching their heads as to why readership is dwindling. (With added problems in the vein of the most common superpower or Jhonen Vasquez's Meanwhile...[language warning], and the resulting, minor tempering caused by shrill PC comics bloggers. It's painful to read a lot of 'badazz' dudebro posturing with sniffy moralising clumsily shoehorned in. Maybe they were always like that, but it hasn't seemed so bad. Not even in the '90's...)
ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
The average person's knowledge of Superman comes from the Christopher Reeve movies (probably more so than any of the contemporary Superman films). Depending on their age, most people's exposure to Batman is from Adam West show (which I watched a small child), the Tim Burton movies from the late 80s/early 90s (along with the spectacular animated series of the mid 90s), or the Nolan movies of the 2000s.
The Hulk had his popular TV show in the 80s (which was my first exposure to him), Spider-Man from his cartoons and movies, and the X-men because of cartoon from the 90s and the film series from the early 2000s.
I saw the live-action Hulk and Batman shows when I was wee, but I'm still of an age that the '90's superhero cartoons wowed me too. Batman at the top, obviously, with the Superman spinoff afterwards. But there was an awful lot of Marvel stuff on the screen at the time too. I remember the Spider-Man, X-Men, Iron Man, Hulk, two Fantastic Four, and even a Silver Surfer cartoon. Cap turned up in at least one, IIRC.
People have been saying that since the comic crash in the 90's. Comic companies are in a much better position today than they were back then. For example, Marvel isn't bankrupt anymore.
I'd say being bought out by Disney might've helped a wee bit. Under that kind of circumstance I'd guess it's easy for a crappy business and service to stay buoyant, for the IP mill.
People have been proclaiming that the comic industry is on the verge of collapse for almost 20 years.
Again, it's like GW. Just because it's taking a while, doesn't mean it can't or isn't happening.
Can Banner survive a brain shot when he's not Hulk?
Banner tried to blow his own brains out per the movie, but turned into the Hulk and spit the bullet out.
Now, I guess it could be argued that Banner/Hulk knew that the bullet was coming since he is the one that pulled the trigger. But I think the comics have established that any mortal injury results in him becoming the Hulk.
There was a pretty good Hulk miniseries a while back, titled Banner! An exploration of Banner's torture, I guess a deconstruction of the kind that became popular thanks to Alan Moore et al. (And using the logical assumption, that, yeah, the Hulk is a danger to human life when he throws a paddy) Anyways. Banner tried to commit suicide in that. Here's what happened when he tried to eat a bullet.
He got shot in the head as Banner, more recently. That didn't kill him but resulted in brain damage. Tony Stark tried to fix him with Extremis hocus-pocus. So now he's a smart Hulk, again, which almost inevitably means he's a bigger dick than stupid Hulk.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2014/11/10 15:17:21
Subject: Re:Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
People have been saying that since the comic crash in the 90's. Comic companies are in a much better position today than they were back then. For example, Marvel isn't bankrupt anymore.
I'd say being bought out by Disney might've helped a wee bit. Under that kind of circumstance I'd guess it's easy for a crappy business and service to stay buoyant, for the IP mill.
Marvel crawled out of the hole well before being bought by Disney. In fact, they survived thanks to Toy Biz merging with Marvel in 1997 and the surge in comic popularity around 2000/2001. You don't pay $4.2 billion for a bankrupt company, you pay that for a company doing well.
People have been proclaiming that the comic industry is on the verge of collapse for almost 20 years.
Again, it's like GW. Just because it's taking a while, doesn't mean it can't or isn't happening.
Taking a while? Marvel was talking themselves about shutting down in the '96. If they didn't go away then, they're not going away soon. The fluctuation of North American comic book sales over the past 5 years isn't very big: it goes up and down between $420 and $475 million, with the exception of 2013, which stands out due to $517 million in sales, and that's JUST the data from Diamond, it doesn't include other distributors. Sales are actually better than they were, the early 2000's fluctuated in the $200-300 million area. It probably helps that 2 companies don't make up 80% of the industry anymore.
How's that writing on the wall going again?
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2014/11/10 16:10:38
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Vermis wrote: Marvel, at least, is trapped in crappy writing. They're like GW in a way: pumping out poorly-thought fight-obsessed rubbish to sell to sweaty fanboys, scratching their heads as to why readership is dwindling. (With added problems in the vein of the most common superpower or Jhonen Vasquez's Meanwhile...[language warning], and the resulting, minor tempering caused by shrill PC comics bloggers. It's painful to read a lot of 'badazz' dudebro posturing with sniffy moralising clumsily shoehorned in. Maybe they were always like that, but it hasn't seemed so bad. Not even in the '90's...)
You gonna qualify that with some evidence? Or just dismiss a large portion of comic readers as 'sweaty fanboys'? because a) rule #1, and b) How can you know that the writing is no good if you haven't deigned to descend from your mighty tower and rub shoulders with the unwashed, sweaty, fanboy masses that comprise Marvel's readership?
I personally would say that a lot of Marvel's writing is very good; stuff like X-Men Legacy, Superior Spiderman or Uncanny Avengers all have excellent storylines, and manage to avoid the ''badazz' dudebro posturing with sniffy moralising' that evidently plagues every single one of the authors in Marvel's roster, then again I'm probably a sweaty fanboy though, and unworthy to even attempt to debate with my intellectual superiors, such as yourself.
ON a divergent note, I told my 10 year old daughter that they were going ot make a Black Panther movie, and she was super excited. Black Panther is her favorite Avenger.
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2014/11/10 20:04:31
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Easy E wrote: ON a divergent note, I told my 10 year old daughter that they were going ot make a Black Panther movie, and she was super excited. Black Panther is her favorite Avenger.
Bleh. I'm more excited for Luke Cage. I just have trouble relating to foreign monarchists I suppose.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2014/11/10 20:42:36
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Easy E wrote:I'm just glad she didn't say someone like Yellowjacket, Wasp or Ant-Man! I would have had to kick her out of the house.
Janet is awesome!
Ahtman wrote: I just have trouble relating to foreign monarchists I suppose.
You racist!
Bromsy wrote:I wonder if Cable will be in the upcoming Deadpool movie?
Rob Liefeld seems to think so, but Rob Liefeld seems to think that you can have pectoral muscles larger than the rest of your torso combined and that every surface that isn't muscle must be a pouch of some description.
Bromsy wrote:I wonder if Cable will be in the upcoming Deadpool movie?
Rob Liefeld seems to think so, but Rob Liefeld seems to think that you can have pectoral muscles larger than the rest of your torso combined and that every surface that isn't muscle must be a pouch of some description.
I don't know what you mean...
Also they're doing an XForce movie, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Cable turn up in that.
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Rob Liefeld seems to think so, but Rob Liefeld seems to think that you can have pectoral muscles larger than the rest of your torso combined and that every surface that isn't muscle must be a pouch of some description.
Also that guns just sit on top of fists and everyone is en pointe with their tiny, pointy feet constantly
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2014/11/11 17:42:45
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
They really are doubling-down on that "Gritty Pinocchio" vibe. I'm still assuming I'm going to like this given how many of the other marvel movies I liked. These trailers sure are doing their darnedest to convince me otherwise though.
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2014/11/12 19:26:53
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Slarg232 wrote: Can I just say that I still get chills hearing him say "I'm going to show you something beautiful.... The whole world, screaming for mercy."
It's quite chilling... To me, about on par with Brando's speeches in Apocalypse Now.
2014/11/12 20:45:58
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
I have to say, I expected... more. All that was different there was the speed at which Ultron speaks and a few extra clips that amount to maybe 10 seconds if that. Don't get me wrong, I still can't wait to see this, but if they're going to spend the next 6 months adding/changing 10 seconds of the same trailer every few weeks, I'm liable to get a little bored of them.
2014/11/12 21:22:38
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Easy E wrote: I swthey hadd an Iron Fist action figure for te Disney Infinity game. I was surprised. Talk about going a bit obscure on that one.
They're making an Iron Fist TV show. He won't be obscure for long.
Slarg232 wrote: Can I just say that I still get chills hearing him say "I'm going to show you something beautiful.... The whole world, screaming for mercy."
It could be cut to all hell. Remember all the inspirational words Robert Redford was saying in the Cap 2 trailers? Made it sound like he was talking to Cap... but he wasn't. They could be two separate speeches.
Conclusion: Trailers can be misleading.
Paradigm wrote: I have to say, I expected... more. All that was different there was the speed at which Ultron speaks and a few extra clips that amount to maybe 10 seconds if that. Don't get me wrong, I still can't wait to see this, but if they're going to spend the next 6 months adding/changing 10 seconds of the same trailer every few weeks, I'm liable to get a little bored of them.
This was borne of necessity. The first trailer was meant to air with Agents of SHIELD, but it leaked early, so Marvel bit the bullet and released it (which is a feather in their cap - most companies close ranks and try to shut down the Internet when that happens). But they still had the AoS thing to worry about, so they made a few version of the trailer with part of the scene they showed at SDCC this year.
And speaking of AoS, it appears they just found the city of Attilan.
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Paradigm wrote: I have to say, I expected... more. All that was different there was the speed at which Ultron speaks and a few extra clips that amount to maybe 10 seconds if that. Don't get me wrong, I still can't wait to see this, but if they're going to spend the next 6 months adding/changing 10 seconds of the same trailer every few weeks, I'm liable to get a little bored of them.
This was borne of necessity. The first trailer was meant to air with Agents of SHIELD, but it leaked early, so Marvel bit the bullet and released it (which is a feather in their cap - most companies close ranks and try to shut down the Internet when that happens). But they still had the AoS thing to worry about, so they made a few version of the trailer with part of the scene they showed at SDCC this year.
Yeah, I have no issue with that second one, it was well handled and the first extended trailer was great. This last one, though, was just a few extra clips that really added nothing. Basically, I got excitend when I saw there was a new one, but then came away rather dissapointed. As much as anything else, it was too soon after the first two; I'd rather they waited a few months, let the hype build on its own, and hit us with an all-new one in the new year (which they may well do anyway)
2014/11/12 22:15:48
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Paradigm wrote: I have to say, I expected... more. All that was different there was the speed at which Ultron speaks and a few extra clips that amount to maybe 10 seconds if that. Don't get me wrong, I still can't wait to see this, but if they're going to spend the next 6 months adding/changing 10 seconds of the same trailer every few weeks, I'm liable to get a little bored of them.
Wait for SuperBowl in the USA. Guaranteed extra goodies..
H.B.M.C. wrote: And speaking of AoS, it appears they just found the city of Attilan.
Yeah I noticed that as well. More grist for the mill that AoS will be used to usher in The Inhumans, and that they will be the X-Men of the MCU. Of course since they can't use 'mutants' as Fox owns all that it makes sense, but it does make me wonder if they are going to make Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch essentially Inhumans, hybrids, or if 'miracles' will be something else.
Spoiler:
Of course Ward name dropped Baron Von Strucker and the fact he was overseas.
Iron Fist in the Infinity 2.0 set belongs to the Ultimate Spiderman set which is from the Ultimate Spiderman cartoon which teams up Spidey with younger versions of Power Man, Iron Fist, Nova, and White Tiger. They are tied together by Nick Fury which is why he is listed as part of the Spidey set but is one of the few that can be used in more playsets than one, in his case the other being The Avengers play set.
I've also put an embargo on behind-the-scenes and trailers I don't see in theaters for Age of Ultron as I don't want to wear myself out before the movie gets here.
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2014/11/12 22:40:51
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
Fo some reason, the Bzzzzt really bugs me in these trailers. However, at least they are at a different pitch than we ususaly hear in sci-fi trailers nowadays.
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2014/11/13 20:30:07
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer
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Slarg232 wrote: Can I just say that I still get chills hearing him say "I'm going to show you something beautiful.... The whole world, screaming for mercy."
It's quite chilling... To me, about on par with Brando's speeches in Apocalypse Now.
Or the Mandarins voice-over from the Iron Man 3 Trailers!
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2014/11/14 01:29:27
Subject: Avengers 2: Age of Ultron first official trailer