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Speak of the Devil and your deadzone wave 3 will appear, apparently.

Got 10 more enforcers than I had calculated, sweet

Everything appears to be in order.

Do we need any photos of sprues or anything?

I may clip them out and blue-tack some together but I think I want to try ball-socket magnets in the shoulders, if feasible, so it may take me awhile to get my actual builds sorted.

Ughhh where's my 3rd survey stuff already... blahh.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Ughhh where's my 3rd survey stuff already... blahh.

I suggest you check your bushes.

I still chuckle when I think about that

Ok first impressions...

Forge Guard.. whatever you do look closely at the sprues and match lettered bits together as you clip them if you want to save yourself a headache later.

The legs/torsos/shoulder-bits only match up properly one way. I'm sure you could probably cut and greenstuff them for more 'variety' but they're big chunky power-armored dwarf legs and torsos with limited theoretical articulation... I doubt they'd realistically have too many varied poses.

Quality looks good at any rate, and you get too many arms for sure. Ok well I guess you only get 14 arms for 6 models, so just two extra maybe. I guess you get the option to *not* use the fancy boss-hammer and heat gun bits. The guns appear to just slot onto the arms. One of the arms has a letter corresponding to one of the body sets, but it appears to fit anywhere, it's just a different angle.


For future reference, gallery where unboxed things will appear: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-70053-44845_Deadzone%20Wave3%20Unbox.html

Scale comparison shot with other Mantic minis, the space not-dwarf not-terminators are pretty chunky and threatening IMO. The corporation marine is very similar in height (if not proportion) to a GW guardsman (and therefore also a space marine ).



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Peacekeepers have the same 'matched' set torsos and legs. They are clearly lettered though. I may play around with them to see if you can sneak in a little variety w/o greenstuff, though it's not a huge concern for me having only 2 sets. Arms and heads are all interchangeable. The only thing I'm seeing with the arms right now is that I only count 4 free left arms that are 'complete' and don't have a matched hand on a rifle (there are two such arms).

Basically, when you put 5 dudes together you will either have to a.) use one of those 'melted details on the back side so it fits across the chest' rifles some people seem to hate, or b.) use at least one riot shield.

More as I figure it out. Looking pretty sharp.


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Regular enforcer stuff:

Looks good, enough bits to run up to 5 stock rifles, 5 pistol/blade combos, an energy fist for the commander, the incinerator, and laser cannon.

Oh yeah, the blades and pistols are mixed in terms of left and right. If you're so inclined, you could have dual blade and desperado assault enforcers. Not terribly practical, but pretty awesome

Are they seriously forgetting to ship the FF when they ship the Enforcers?

Dunno, got mine. Could just be a couple of coincidental packing errors?


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So I definitely like the new plastic enforcers. They may not be the be-all end-all kit of doom that will defeat and replace all other scifi power armored soldier kits EVAR... but I certainly like them

Also, ball joints FTW:

 Azazelx wrote:
Are they seriously forgetting to ship the FF when they ship the Enforcers?

Wait who didn't get them? Alpharius and GrimDork and so on and so forth are all talking about their brand new shiny FF FG plastics.

 GrimDork wrote:
Forge Guard.. whatever you do look closely at the sprues and match lettered bits together as you clip them if you want to save yourself a headache later.

The legs/torsos/shoulder-bits only match up properly one way. I'm sure you could probably cut and greenstuff them for more 'variety' but they're big chunky power-armored dwarf legs and torsos with limited theoretical articulation... I doubt they'd realistically have too many varied poses.

Challenge accepted! Dynamically posed Forge Guard Dreadball team is now on the to do list. Coming soon in 2020!

Scale comparison shot with other Mantic minis, the space not-dwarf not-terminators are pretty chunky and threatening IMO. The corporation marine is very similar in height (if not proportion) to a GW guardsman (and therefore also a space marine ).

That *is* chunky and threatening.

Thanks for the unboxings!

So far I think I'm the only one missing Forge Fathers.

I think I've had to fill out the missing item form every. single. time.

At least for Deadzone. Everything else has come in the way it's supposed to.

The last two Deadzone shipments have been fine for me. The only real problems I had with mine were some casting issues and a couple missing bits in wave 1.

I assembled my Forgeguard as soon as I got them. They're very nice. I did notice that the heat cannon and the HMG both seem to have arms specific to them. The heat cannon is obviously the arm with the hoses on it, but the HMG's arm is a bit harder to identify. You'll have to do some dry fitting with it as it'll only fit properly on one of the arms due to the ammo drum on the back of it.

Season 4 Dreadball Teams Announced

http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/the-year-of-dreadball-kicks-off-with-season-4/

Looks like they're pre-assembled and cost $5 USD more per team.

My plan is to play using the original 12 teams using new S4, 5 and 6 rules for Counts As. Frex, my buddy showed me the rules for the new Hobgoblin team (who have a 'stench' ability). My Z'zor bugs will be alternately fielded as Stink Bugs using Hobgoblin rules.

If anyone plays Deadzone, the DZ rules committee is looking for players to fill in a survey about games you have played, just looking to get some data so that we can balance the game a lot better (and also to provide evidence to Mantic that the changes are required):

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/630017.page

Thanks in advance!

There are a few worries out there that the season 4 teams are just season 1 teams 'but better.'

I can sorta see the argument with the brokkrs compared to the Forge Fathers, to be honest.

The other argument though is that the Oceanics/Sharks are just the Tronteks, But Better. Sure the extra striker is awesome (I like strikers, especially ones that can pick up the ball, unlike my rats), and the extra speed and the tail distraciton ability is good.

But... I could see myself missing the coaching dice and extra card at the start in the game for the Tronteks.

 Compel wrote:
There are a few worries out there that the season 4 teams are just season 1 teams 'but better.'

I can sorta see the argument with the brokkrs compared to the Forge Fathers, to be honest.

The other argument though is that the Oceanics/Sharks are just the Tronteks, But Better. Sure the extra striker is awesome (I like strikers, especially ones that can pick up the ball, unlike my rats), and the extra speed and the tail distraciton ability is good.

But... I could see myself missing the coaching dice and extra card at the start in the game for the Tronteks.

My buddy has the S4 rulebook e-version and let me check through it.
I like some of the rules and team stuff but don't plan on buying any models from S4.
I might get the rock alien guys or one of the wilder looking aliens from a later season.

If I do, it would have to be offline since pretty much none of the local stores will touch Mantic.
They learned the local players all buy in big on KS and then swap/sell/give away their extras.
Same thing happened when I was in the DC area (basically KS backers were 80-90% of the player base).

Ooh, Deadzone Rules Commitee persons!

My most pressing question right now is, how is Knockback supposed to work in close combat. My uncertainty with that one pretty much determines how asterians do in my games.

 Compel wrote:
Ooh, Deadzone Rules Commitee persons!

My most pressing question right now is, how is Knockback supposed to work in close combat. My uncertainty with that one pretty much determines how asterians do in my games.

It pushes people out of the cube. If you doubled their fight, you could now move into them again and drag them all over hell and creation.

That one's easy.

Except, it isn't that easy, sadly...

Does it trigger when you do a fight as a response to an attack, as opposed to when you actually are the person initiating the attack and are performing a Fight Action. - In other words, if you're fighting back in response to a Fight Action, are you classed as the 'Attacker' and your opponent the 'Target' even though, well, he made the attack (Fight Action) in the first place...

Additionally, is the "When a weapon with this ability hits its target it may knock it back into a different cube." Just flavour text (it probably is), or part of the actual rule? In which case, you've got the issue of not being able to HIT an opponent, unless you beat them in the first place. Which contradicts the rest of that paragraph. That one's pretty obvious (it's flavour text) but, it's still err. messy.

We should probably start a thread in the mantic sub.

I think the infinite fight/knockback chain was hashed out for days on the quirkworthy blog and he even made a post specifically about it. I had thought it was resolved.

Eagerly awaiting wave 3. Checked all relevant nearby bushes, still no dice (or, perhaps more pertinently, peacekeepers).

I just got wave three, and it's missing the Forgefathers.

Can we get an "Oh you" gif for Mantic in here?

Don't worry. They'll make up the postage it takes to fix mispacks in the next KS!

pre-assembled

...by Chinese sweatshop workers. I hope you like mould lines!

 GrimDork wrote:
I think the infinite fight/knockback chain was hashed out for days on the quirkworthy blog and he even made a post specifically about it. I had thought it was resolved.

I assume it was "resolved" in the same way everything is on Jake's blog: "It works exactly as it reads, because I can't be wrong, nyah."

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 GrimDork wrote:
I think the infinite fight/knockback chain was hashed out for days on the quirkworthy blog and he even made a post specifically about it. I had thought it was resolved.

I assume it was "resolved" in the same way everything is on Jake's blog: "It works exactly as it reads, because I can't be wrong, nyah."

I think the actual answer was it requires stupidity on the victim's part and luck on the other player's part so it's fine.

Don't be surprised if free/follow-on actions are reviewed by the Rules Committee.

From Kickstarter comments:

Mantic Games about 7 hours ago
Morning everyone!
Regarding bases, we're very sorry, but we did have a mix up with this in packing. The 3rd waves orders going out now (and nearly all out) aren't being given extra bases for models added in survey 3, due to a fault on our end.
Anyone who is missing bases, please fill out a missing parts form, and we'll get on them right away. Bases are fairly quick to dispatch, so you shouldn't be waiting long. Again, apologies for any inconvenience caused.
http://bit.ly/1dyMkWa

Mantic should upgrade from post-it notes to at least an MS Access database to keep track of things.

 Baragash wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 GrimDork wrote:
I think the infinite fight/knockback chain was hashed out for days on the quirkworthy blog and he even made a post specifically about it. I had thought it was resolved.

I assume it was "resolved" in the same way everything is on Jake's blog: "It works exactly as it reads, because I can't be wrong, nyah."

I think the actual answer was it requires stupidity on the victim's part and luck on the other player's part so it's fine.

Don't be surprised if free/follow-on actions are reviewed by the Rules Committee.

A request:
Answering something as quasi-complex as the checkerboard chain of free actions possibility would really benefit from a simple diagram example. If Rules Committee does address that, showing pics with accompanying text would be a blessing.

Thanks for consideration.

small snippet on today's blog

..... Mars Attacks gets the rules to turn it from a skirmish game into a tabletop wargame (available free online!) and we will have the free intro rules for Deadzone out in a few weeks, with a new race later in the year…

Pathfinder artwork

I have yet to play Deadzone, but I recently won the Plague Starter set (I think it comes with 11 figures) It is at the very rear of my queue to assemble and paint with X_Wing, 40K Space Hulk, Arkham Asylum, Imperial Assault, and thats just to name a few,lol.

Is it a decent game? If so, maybe, I'll put it together and give it a try, because no matter how much you dig a game...everyonce in awhile you need atleast a SMALL break from it!!!