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 Gorlock wrote:
I have yet to play Deadzone, but I recently won the Plague Starter set (I think it comes with 11 figures) It is at the very rear of my queue to assemble and paint with X_Wing, 40K Space Hulk, Arkham Asylum, Imperial Assault, and thats just to name a few,lol.

Is it a decent game? If so, maybe, I'll put it together and give it a try, because no matter how much you dig a game...everyonce in awhile you need atleast a SMALL break from it!!!

Deadzone is an amazing game. On par with X-wing as far as the quality of the rules go (simplicity, elegance, efficiency...) and even higher in future potential. There are issues, but the core of the system is top tier. Like top-5-systems-published-ever tier.

Deadzone is awesome! Highly recommend giving it a try.

I knew I liked the game, but that is a pretty nice recommendation there Blackfang

You've also got cool extras like a zombie survival solo mode, solo vs AI rules, and a reasonably expansible range of game size. I'm sure like anything (especially with counters and tokens all over the place) playing progressively larger games will take longer but still...

The campaign mode feels a little spare compared to all of the options you get in a game like Necromunda, but it seems functional at least.

Agreed, it's a fantastic game!

Sounds like campaign play may be getting an overhaul from how the playtester's comments read.

 GrimDork wrote:

You've also got cool extras like a zombie survival solo mode, solo vs AI rules, and a reasonably expansible range of game size.

Mars Attacks is also basically the same system. And to add to your list, I am currently modding MA for a Left4Dead type zombie game.

Oh yeah? That's cool then. And I mean for a simple/basic campaign, I think the existing rules are just fine. The points cap stays in place so if you want to bring veterans to the fore you will necessarily be bringing less of them or less gear otherwise... but it keeps the games more fair, as opposed to some of the crazy matchups you might see between a veteran Necromunda gang and a group that had been brought/restarted late in the campaign.

Having said that though... and overhaul has me interested

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Yes, also what Lord Blackfang says, Mars attacks is basically DZ-lite. You hack out the vertical component and reduce the number of actions and various rules interactions, throw in a shared deck with a lot of zany/ridiculous events, and get a really fun game. Plus, if you have it all... Mars Attacks adds two really nicely fleshed out factions to use with the Deadzone ruleset, bringing the potential factions up to 8.

@LBF are you using the included MA zombie survival campaign (very similar to the DZ version, just fit into the MA conventions), or are you doing something more from scratch'?

@Grim

I really can't get into Jake's AI rules, or really most others. It's going to be a more classic Descentey type thing with one hero per player plus one antagonist player for the zombies. Fairly involved inventory system and melee tweaks that will allow for a more precise simulation of wading through hordes.

I haven't actually gotten to try the AI out too much so I can't make a good comment on it's quality. Who wouldn't want to at least occasionally control a horde of undead and try to eat the other players though

I still think they should make Zombies a trooper option for Plague players, even if it requires a special leader to do so.

 Alex C wrote:
I still think they should make Zombies a trooper option for Plague players, even if it requires a special leader to do so.

I was just thinking this the other day!

Got a workable 3Z card here https://sites.google.com/site/deadzoneplus/plague-cards

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Got a workable 3Z card here https://sites.google.com/site/deadzoneplus/plague-cards

Should send those in...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Got a workable 3Z card here https://sites.google.com/site/deadzoneplus/plague-cards

I don't know who you'd talk to but you should send someone this stuff, especially with DS: Infestation coming

Your items are pretty neat too, the needle gernade could be pretty useful for killing 3D's in a square with a friendly high armour model. Chemical XYZ is pretty cool, I do something similar for some counts as mutant orx.
The motion sensor is really thematic. The extra orx additions like the shotgun commando and the changes to Commando Captain are awesome. Could maybe bump up the cost of the goblin surgeon and add fast.

Good Job!

On the third survey, was the accessory spre bundle set supposed to come with 3 sprues or 5?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
On the third survey, was the accessory spre bundle set supposed to come with 3 sprues or 5?

Whatever it's suppossed to be just prepare for it to be shipped the other way....or not at all. Mantic Kickstarter packing motto "Bigger bundles, bigger blunders"

It was 3 accessory sprues for $8

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
On the third survey, was the accessory spre bundle set supposed to come with 3 sprues or 5?

from what I recall

3 accessory sprues for $8

5 connector sprues for $10


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Anyone get their Mars Attacks missing items?

No missing bits in my dbx shipment, first time that has happened with a delivery.

Ronnie said in his latest blog he is making customer service and accuracy his top priority in 2015. Hopefully the problems people have been having with accurate orders, replacement parts and communication will be a thing of the past.

 Alex C wrote:
Ronnie said in his latest blog he is making customer service and accuracy his top priority in 2015. Hopefully the problems people have been having with accurate orders, replacement parts and communication will be a thing of the past.

I read that too, and I really hope that's the case.

I've had an issue with every single Deadzone delivery so far.

Funny enough, all the other Manitc KS campaigns I've been involved with have been totally fine.

Of course, he kind of had to say that, I just hope it comes to fruition.

 Alex C wrote:
Ronnie said in his latest blog he is making customer service and accuracy his top priority in 2015. Hopefully the problems people have been having with accurate orders, replacement parts and communication will be a thing of the past.

He seems to be on to a roaring start so far!

Mantic Games about 7 hours ago
Morning everyone!
Regarding bases, we're very sorry, but we did have a mix up with this in packing. The 3rd waves orders going out now (and nearly all out) aren't being given extra bases for models added in survey 3, due to a fault on our end.
Anyone who is missing bases, please fill out a missing parts form, and we'll get on them right away. Bases are fairly quick to dispatch, so you shouldn't be waiting long. Again, apologies for any inconvenience caused.
http://bit.ly/1dyMkWa

It's probably got to the point that they are paying so much in shipping to correct errors that it would be cheaper to hire a few extra bodies and get it right first time.

Even the bases problem with wave 3 will cost them a fair bit to correct if everyone claims them.

That said I have never had a single mispack in any Mantic delivery and my first Deadzone delivery was huge. They can get it right just not enough of the time it seems.

I've never had any issues either.

In fact, if anything, I've got more stuff than I ordered sometimes!

They've got issues all the way down the CS line so putting a bit more effort/money/time or whatever in is certainly something they've got to do

more spot checking at the factory to make sure their bags of restic bits have the right amount of bits in (and a move to sprues will help here too

some sort of customer query number they can hand out (across all possible platforms), preferably automated in response to an issue so people know they have got the message and can refer back to it if they have continuing issues

Complete invoices included in all packages (so people don't have to keep asking 'how many FF was I meant to get, etc)

More QC on the packaging line (probably meaning more dedicated staff rather than volunteers or office staff)

 Alex C wrote:
I've never had any issues either.

In fact, if anything, I've got more stuff than I ordered sometimes!

This. While it hasnt happened to be directly, I know a guy who got his wave 3 stuff last week. He ordered nothing extra and was sent 15 sprues of the new enforcers extra. Another person in the area got a double 150$ level ammount of stuff.

str00dles1 wrote:

 Alex C wrote:
I've never had any issues either.

In fact, if anything, I've got more stuff than I ordered sometimes!

This. While it hasnt happened to be directly, I know a guy who got his wave 3 stuff last week. He ordered nothing extra and was sent 15 sprues of the new enforcers extra. Another person in the area got a double 150$ level ammount of stuff.

It's a bonus for you but it's a customer service issue for someone else down the road who will get an envelope with an invoice and "Sorry, out of Enforcers, you'll get them in 6 months." And it will probably be me, I am always dead last in the packing queue.

Does anyone know which enforcer left arms go with which enforcer rifle/right arms? Because they are not interchangeable it turns out.

I'll be darned... The first set I tried fit fine so I didn't really notice but there's more than one pair isn't there. Makes me even gladder I'm doing magnets so I'll have more time to figure out the matching sets... Guess it's kind of inevitable if you want variety of pose but unfortunately I don't see any labeling for the arms so it looks like dry fitting and blue-tack are you friends there.

Doesn't everyone dry fit first?