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More from the Tyranid Hive:

75 points for a Neurothrope isn't so bad. It adds quite a bit of versatility to the brood.

Venomthropes looks amazing.

So we can have the new Doom be a Warlord. That's sturdier than the old Broodlord trick.

Thats...pretty awesome.

Six zoanthropes, eh?

Brood of 3 with a Neurothope is nice. 175pts for a unit that if it passes it's test does 3 St10 AP2 Lance shots and a spirit leech which can fuel the the warpblast.....Very nice in a pod

Edited cause I'm dumb

To be fair, any model can be your Warlord. The model just has to be a character to get a Warlord Trait.

Yessss! Doom warlord! Aggressive Flyrants! Oh boy!!!


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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
To be fair, any model can be your Warlord. The model just has to be a character to get a Warlord Trait.

No, it has to be a character full stop.

Love the 2nd Ed vibe off the Zoey's - very nasty looking. I've liked all the recent variants of the Zoey to be fair.
The venomthropes are fantastic! Fortunately I don't have any of those.. lovely looking models, must get.

If you have no characters in your army, you can make a non-character your warlord.

For the Neurothropes spirit leech - is it 1 extra warp charge for each unsaved wound, or each wound inflicted?

rollawaythestone wrote:
For the Neurothropes spirit leech - is it 1 extra warp charge for each unsaved wound, or each wound inflicted?

The rule says wound inflicted.

Again, I'm not a Tyranid player and even I'm getting all excited with all the new toys because of how cool they look.

I hope I get to see some of them painted in some games, they must look so good.

Sir Arun wrote:I still think the GW model looks hideous compared to Hydracast Drop Spores

I disagree. It's certainly not "hideous" by comparison.

Zande4 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Zande4 wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
I still think the GW model looks hideous compared to Hydracast Drop Spores

Yeah but that guy is an artist who rivals Forge World in terms of quality, his other models are even more beautiful. I'm the proud owner of at least 1 of everything he's done (2 of his Tervigons)

Er GW is Forgeworld... They have great sculptors too, just perhaps they rush models instead of making them beautiful. Main difference I'd say is GW is very hit or miss (but so is FW).

I never said it wasn't? And if you can't tell the difference between the detail of a Forge World model and a Games Workshop (I'm referring to the plastic ones on their main site, I know they're the same company) then perhaps you've never owned one?

They also have to make their models easy for mass mold production, with parts conveniently swappable to other Tyranids (so as to make them customizable). That, and the lovely resin one posted doesn't look like it could hold 2 Zoanthropes, let alone a Monstrous Creature. GW's looks big enough to more than carry one.

The Neruothrope is a pitch-perfect example of how one does 'Nid special characters. The Tyranids don't - or shouldn't - have personalities. The Hive Mind simply shouldn't work that way. Instead the Hive Mind is an adaptive intelligence that approaches new problems with either specific solutions (Red Terror) or imitations (Bio-Titans), and when a specific solution proves to have applications outside of its intended purpose, it essentially puts that "design" into mass production.

The Red Terror proved so useful that the Hive Mind adapted it into Raveners. Clearly the Doom of Malan'tai proved its usefulness beyond its original purpose, and so the Neruothrope was created. Tyranid special characters should, in effect, act as prototypes for potential general-use creatures.

And the model is amazing.

Venomthropes look ace as well. New Zoey's ain't half bad either.

I really can't wait for plastic Zoanthropes Y-Y

And having up to six in a brood sounds amazing; not to mention adding a character into with a fancy new (kinda) power!

I must admit though, it's odd to see the old entry modified like this + outside of the 'dex.

 jifel wrote:


Thought I'd leave this here for you guys, looks like a new Broodlord, similar to Space Hulk but still unique. Perhaps the new guy from the BA box?

Looks just like the space hulk one, is it the same model or have they just put the space hulk one on a different piece of scenery?

If this is the limited edition model for the campaign box set it's very underwhelming.

New Zoey's and Vemon's don't really do it for me either, the goofy smile on the Zoey's put me off, and I'm not sure about the tenticles on the Vemon's. Hopefully their easy to re-position would love to get some plastic ones.

So far haven't been moved to buy any of the new releases based on the models themselves. Will probably end up getting a drop pod due to their use in game, and converting the "crown" looking bit off the top.

 Tamereth wrote:
Looks just like the space hulk one, is it the same model or have they just put the space hulk one on a different piece of scenery?

Crest on head, longer claws, and yes, different scenic base. It's the same style, but it's not the same model.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Brood of 3 with a Neurothope is nice. 175pts for a unit that if it passes it's test does 3 St10 AP2 Lance shots and a spirit leech which can fuel the the warpblast.....Very nice in a pod

Yeah, deep-striking Zoeys are back in play. I'll probably try larger units at some point too. It could definitely be a points sink, but given how hard it is to one-shot vehicles in 7th, I wonder if lance spam would ultimately mean a more effective unit.


I see they designed the Venomthrope's lash whips to avoid some of the functional problems of the old ones. My VTs spend so much game time facing a direction other than forward...

 Harriticus wrote:
Not a fan of the Zo's. They took away the bulbous psychic alien look. They look so conventional now.

I think the brains are just as big, but the big "hats" cover up the brain.

T

 Wilson wrote:
Yessss! Doom warlord! Aggressive Flyrants! Oh boy!!!


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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
To be fair, any model can be your Warlord. The model just has to be a character to get a Warlord Trait.

No, it has to be a character full stop.

Not in an unbound List.

Those Venomthropes look great, they'd be out-of-this-universe amazing if their backs were more streamlined.

Zoanthropes fine apart from their smiles.

It could be solid to drop them in but it's still no DoM. The ddom used to be silly cheap for how much disruption he caused.

3 minimum for a neuro puts the brood at 175 plus 75 for the pod... 250 is getting up there, I would actually try it with 5 before I tried taking more then one of these units. It would be expensive but a well designed tool to crack high armored targets or even units of centurions would make an opponent think twice regarding their deployment. A spirit leech fallowed buy 5 s10 ap2 lance shots is no joke.

Who cares? They look awesome.

Now give us a plastic Pyrovore/Biovore kit. 4th times a charm when it comes to the Biovore.

 Wilson wrote:
Yessss! Doom warlord! Aggressive Flyrants! Oh boy!!!


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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
To be fair, any model can be your Warlord. The model just has to be a character to get a Warlord Trait.

No, it has to be a character full stop.

Your Warlord has to be a character, but if you have no characters, then it can be any model.

rollawaythestone wrote:

 Wilson wrote:
Yessss! Doom warlord! Aggressive Flyrants! Oh boy!!!


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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
To be fair, any model can be your Warlord. The model just has to be a character to get a Warlord Trait.

No, it has to be a character full stop.

Your Warlord has to be a character, but if you have no characters, then it can be any model.

I think you guys have served Wilson a full 3 courses

He's probably full

 Red Corsair wrote:

rollawaythestone wrote:

 Wilson wrote:
Yessss! Doom warlord! Aggressive Flyrants! Oh boy!!!


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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
To be fair, any model can be your Warlord. The model just has to be a character to get a Warlord Trait.

No, it has to be a character full stop.

Your Warlord has to be a character, but if you have no characters, then it can be any model.

I think you guys have served Wilson a full 3 courses

He's probably full

Nope, still room for more if any one else wants to repeat the last few comments posted!

Side note; who even plays unbound?

I'm sure someone will bite...

 Wilson wrote:


Nope, still room for more if any one else wants to repeat the last few comments posted!

Side note; who even plays unbound?

I'm sure someone will bite...

Wilson can take it.

Nids can technically have a legal Battle-forged character-less army with HQ Tervigon's.

Side note; who even plays unbound?

The correct answer is no one.


In other news, the Neurothrope / Spirit Leech just makes the Maleceptor's awful power stand out even more. Such schizophrenic rules design! How could they think the Neurothrope was good to go, and not stop and wonder about the Maleceptor.

Is there an alpha version of the Venomthrope then?

I find it frustrating that the Neurothrope's Spirit Leech ability has the same problematic language (or lack thereof?) as the Maleceptor's Psychic Overload.

do you need to make a roll To Hit? Or not?

BS4 or not, it still might suffer from "Too-Many-Hoops" syndrome, if the FAQ we're rumoured to be getting on the 15th does not specifically allow us to bypass rolling To Hit.