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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 15:51:22
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Mine. Because it would be the first new model release for the eleven years I have played the army.
For reference :
- It took three years for the Manhattan project to create an atom bomb
- It took seven years between when Grumman Aircraft was chosen to design the Apollo Lunar Module and when said Lunar Module landed on the moon.
- It took two years to build the Eiffel Tower, or the Empire State Building
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/11/10 15:51:39
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 17:25:52
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Shadow wrote:This is kind of jumping to conclusions, really. Though I would like GW to do this sort of thing in the future, I reckon that this model wave could simply be to patch up the hole left by the chapterhouse malarkey and I'm not convinced that GW will do this again for any other armies.
Like I say though, I'd like to be proved wrong and, if I was, I'd like to be proved wrong by a new wave of DE, Eldar or CSM.
The former lost a lot of models in the transition to its 7th edition codex, something which could well be rectified by new units. Eldar simply need more plastic models, something which a few dual kits would set right, and CSM could really do with some more variety and strong units. They've fallen out of favour recently and I think sales would shoot up if GW were to release some good, strong units in WD.
If the response is increased revenues coupled with profits, they will continue to do this. Dollars determines direction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 17:27:37
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Blood Angels. They need their new book before we all need new shiny models.
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40k:
8th Edtion: 9405 pts - Varantekh Dynasty |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 17:53:14
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Ehh, I think Sisters of Battle still have everyone beat.
I'm assuming the reason not everyone is agreeing with that is because they simply don't see GW doing the release no matter what.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:00:45
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Sisters of Battle. Plz, GW, just give us a 10 man plastic squad for $40 and rake in the dough.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:03:56
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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I'd say Sisters of Battle. From what I understand, they haven't gotten anything new in quite some time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:04:20
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Cosmic Joe
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Accolade wrote:Ehh, I think Sisters of Battle still have everyone beat.
I'm assuming the reason not everyone is agreeing with that is because they simply don't see GW doing the release no matter what.
At this point we could probably do a fundraiser, get the money for the machinery for GW, work out the designs, kidnap their children and blackmail them and they'd still not do a SOB release. It's past the point of comical. Either kill the line or do something with it. Even purgatory has an end.
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Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:05:32
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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CSM! They are meant to be sinful, not have models which look ugly as sin - I give you the Mutilators!
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Please note, for those of you who play Chaos Daemons as a faction the term "Daemon" is potentially offensive. Instead, please play codex "Chaos: Mortally Challenged". Thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:07:48
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Hehe...I could do without the dinobots too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:08:30
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Chaos Space Marines pls. We need Chosen models, updated Troops (argh monopose legs), new Havoc kits, expanded bike kits, updated Obliterator models that don't look like gak, and something like normal space marine drop pods and maybe some more heavy support options that can deal with flyers better.
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“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:17:01
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Ref Havocs , it says a whole lot that you need to scour eBay for bits, or use Devestator squads, in order to make the Havos squads you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:50:29
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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CSM, for a number of reasons...
Standard Marine parts need some love.
Khorne Berzerkers need some love.
Noise Marines, Thousand Sons, and Plague Marines should each get their own package and unique bodies, not just "upgrade parts".
Chosen need a box.
Cultists need a proper box, enough of the mono poses.
Oblits\Mutilators are definitely easy multi-box options.
A decent multi-pose lord kit, not just for a terminator lord.
Havocs definitely need a rethink...honestly, I would do them how other cults are done currently. Buy standard space marines, purchase Havoc Upgrade, get sprues that give you 4 of each heavy weapon option. Expensive, but at least you'd get what you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 18:51:55
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Yes, We need bigger bugs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 19:02:03
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Sisters, not seen a update in years I seems.
At least make them a playable ally.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 20:40:23
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Aipoch wrote:CSM, for a number of reasons...
Standard Marine parts need some love.
Khorne Berzerkers need some love.
Noise Marines, Thousand Sons, and Plague Marines should each get their own package and unique bodies, not just "upgrade parts".
Chosen need a box.
Cultists need a proper box, enough of the mono poses.
Oblits\Mutilators are definitely easy multi-box options.
A decent multi-pose lord kit, not just for a terminator lord.
Havocs definitely need a rethink...honestly, I would do them how other cults are done currently. Buy standard space marines, purchase Havoc Upgrade, get sprues that give you 4 of each heavy weapon option. Expensive, but at least you'd get what you want.
I'd kill for a Havoc set that gives us:
2x each of the special weapons (Flamer, Meltagun, Plasma gun)
2x Lascannon
2x Autocannon
2x Heavy bolter
1x Missile launcher
And then throw in the current 'upgrade' sprue that comes in the CSM kit.
Two of those and you've got yourself a solid Havoc squad + a bunch of added specials for building a unit of Chosen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 21:39:09
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Hallowed Canoness
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jasper76 wrote:I'd say Sisters of Battle. From what I understand, they haven't gotten anything new in quite some time.
Guys, the answer was just above.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Mine. Because it would be the first new model release for the eleven years I have played the army.
For reference :
- It took three years for the Manhattan project to create an atom bomb
- It took seven years between when Grumman Aircraft was chosen to design the Apollo Lunar Module and when said Lunar Module landed on the moon.
- It took two years to build the Eiffel Tower, or the Empire State Building
That was literal.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 21:46:39
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Experiment 626 wrote: Aipoch wrote:CSM, for a number of reasons...
Standard Marine parts need some love.
Khorne Berzerkers need some love.
Noise Marines, Thousand Sons, and Plague Marines should each get their own package and unique bodies, not just "upgrade parts".
Chosen need a box.
Cultists need a proper box, enough of the mono poses.
Oblits\Mutilators are definitely easy multi-box options.
A decent multi-pose lord kit, not just for a terminator lord.
Havocs definitely need a rethink...honestly, I would do them how other cults are done currently. Buy standard space marines, purchase Havoc Upgrade, get sprues that give you 4 of each heavy weapon option. Expensive, but at least you'd get what you want.
I'd kill for a Havoc set that gives us:
2x each of the special weapons (Flamer, Meltagun, Plasma gun)
2x Lascannon
2x Autocannon
2x Heavy bolter
1x Missile launcher
And then throw in the current 'upgrade' sprue that comes in the CSM kit.
Two of those and you've got yourself a solid Havoc squad + a bunch of added specials for building a unit of Chosen.
No, we need more missile launchers, not autocannons.
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“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:12:30
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Sisters, so many times over. Multi part BSS, and a Ret squad box, then maybe a command box a la the SM version
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:21:34
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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I'd say Sisters for sure.
After that, it'd be nice to see some new kits/updated rules (as they seem to be doing for Zoanthropes/Venomthropes) for some Chaos Space Marine units. Chosen for one, a drop pod equivalent or deep-strike option of some sort would be helpful, as would some more FW-style Daemon Engines.
It'd be cool to see some new Warp Spiders and Eldar Jetbike models that aren't from 1996 too
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:23:28
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Cosmic Joe
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But how many people believe that GW will actually update the sisters? I used to think so but now I doubt it.
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Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:39:40
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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MWHistorian wrote:But how many people believe that GW will actually update the sisters? I used to think so but now I doubt it.
One has to wonder if they have the player-base to make it worthwhile for them....I imagine they would have done something for them in the last decade if they thought it would make them money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:43:15
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Missionary On A Mission
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do you really have to ask....? Sister's of course
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: 4500pts
Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:44:21
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Cosmic Joe
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jasper76 wrote: MWHistorian wrote:But how many people believe that GW will actually update the sisters? I used to think so but now I doubt it.
One has to wonder if they have the player-base to make it worthwhile for them....I imagine they would have done something for them in the last decade if they thought it would make them money.
Oh, no. There's the beginning of the circular argument.
There's not player base for SOB, so GW don't make them!
Because GW don't make them, there's no player base!
And so on and so on. Look, I say give them a DE style re-release and see if they sell. Outdated, blocky and super expensive models aren't going to win a lot of customers. Make them cheaper, in plastic and with options and you'll see them sell. At least more than the Scions did.
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Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:46:07
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Mine. Because it would be the first new model release for the eleven years I have played the army.
For reference :
- It took three years for the Manhattan project to create an atom bomb
- It took seven years between when Grumman Aircraft was chosen to design the Apollo Lunar Module and when said Lunar Module landed on the moon.
- It took two years to build the Eiffel Tower, or the Empire State Building
I laughed way to hard at this one that everyone at work was looking at me weirdly.
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:50:33
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Lieutenant Colonel
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sisters 100%
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/10 23:51:21
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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MWHistorian wrote: jasper76 wrote: MWHistorian wrote:But how many people believe that GW will actually update the sisters? I used to think so but now I doubt it.
One has to wonder if they have the player-base to make it worthwhile for them....I imagine they would have done something for them in the last decade if they thought it would make them money.
Oh, no. There's the beginning of the circular argument.
There's not player base for SOB, so GW don't make them!
Because GW don't make them, there's no player base!
And so on and so on. Look, I say give them a DE style re-release and see if they sell. Outdated, blocky and super expensive models aren't going to win a lot of customers. Make them cheaper, in plastic and with options and you'll see them sell. At least more than the Scions did.
I hear you ref circular argument. However it may be possible that "battle nuns" just don't have much appeal in the market as a concept.....I personally think they're super cool, I'm just saying...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/11 01:08:41
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Dark Eldar. Give us our characters back!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/11 01:12:53
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Member of the Malleus
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Other than sisters
GK-Just want to see a new model, don't care if it's good or bad
Inquisition- As much as I love making my own models, it can get expensive when you kit-bash an enitre Inquisition army
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I make bad decisions and think they are good.
Team No Bueno
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/11 04:27:44
Subject: Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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"Deserve"?
Sisters of Battle.
Hands down.
What would I like to see?
A plastic Guard Veteran kit, with Grenadier Veterans that allow me to build up even more Kasrkin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/11 04:39:56
Subject: Re:Which Army Deserves the Next Model Wave?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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My vote goes to the Sisters of Battle.
First off start converting to models to plastic, and reduce the price to something that I can at least pretend is affordable (as currently standard squad of Battle Sisters cost $80...)
Then add a bunch more units. Personally I feel that the Sisters of Battle army has the potential for a much wider variety of legitimately cool units.
-Praise The Emperor-
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You say Fiery Crash! I say Dynamic Entry!
*Increases Game Point Limit by 100*: Tau get two Crisis Suits and a Firewarrior. Imperial Guard get two infantry companies, artillery support, and APCs. |
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