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Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

 Bobthehero wrote:
Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

Oh no, I didn't get over to the Lost and the Damned yet. The only thing that profits is Daemons. But everyone's screwed because virtually everyone's in the Warp, and the actual legit God Emperor can drop the Legion of the Damned on whoever-he-damn-pleases.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

Oh no, I didn't get over to the Lost and the Damned yet. The only thing that profits is Daemons. But everyone's screwed because virtually everyone's in the Warp, and the actual legit God Emperor can drop the Legion of the Damned on whoever-he-damn-pleases.

Or you know the heroes of the imperium banned together and Uskar Creed, Esienhorn, Yarrick, and the Marbo all join together to become the greatest fighting force in the galaxy.

The Ultramarines Primarch turns out to be a traitor.

The Alpha Legion is thrown into chaos, the legion being split between the loyalists and the traitors.

The Black Legion and all the traitor legions now secluded on terra and the solar system delve into chaos as they begin to fight each other and die by each others hand.

Abbaddon unable to control the other legions is challenged by lucius the eternal who are now both cut off from the runious powers.

The Chaos Gods abandoning the Gaxaly as their task is now complete.

The Demon primarch's powers are lost and are left stranded in the eye of terror, as the begin to war unmost themselves.

The Thousand sons purge themselves of chaos and try to rejoin the imperium after Ahriman sacrificed himself to save his legion from his curse, and Magnus the Red moved by this attacks the Iron Warrior's Homeworld to find his enemy... The Wolf of Fenris.

The Salamanders are reunited with their primarch as are the White Scars and the Raven Guard.

The Three first founding chapters after hearing of the betrayal of the ultramarines gather their chapter fleets and march upon the ultramarines.

The Dark Angel is reformed into the legion and the Black templars, Imperial Fists, Crimson fists reform as well joining in a crusade fleet to end the torment of the blood angels who have succumbed to the black rage.

The Eldar join the tau empire, and manipulate them to their will.

The Orcs and the Tyranids fight each other.

The Necrons awake and begin to fight each other and the tyranids begin to attack them as well.

The Void Dragon awakens within mars and begins to rip apart the traitor legions that had foolishly landed on mars.

The Sisters of Battle fight in desperation to coup with the death of the emperor and the highlords.

Before the Emperor's death:

Cypher before the death of the emperor presented himself to the emperor and the fallen are finally forgiven for their transgressions, Lion El'Johnson Awakens and leads the dark angels away from terra.

Meanwhile half of the Blood Angels finally succumb to the black rage. Only half of the chapter escapes the carnage, And Dante and his chapter remants leave to defend holy terra against the black crusade.

The black Templars meanwhile are finally able to defeat Gazhugull, but the mighty Chaplain Grimmadulas finally dies for the final time.

The Cadian's sadden by their homeworlds destruction redeploy their forces to holy terra.


ETC ETC ETC.

I would like to revise my previous answer.

No. Oh, sweet Jesus, no. Why? Because, if the rumors about 9th are true, I don't want that gak anywhere near 40k

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

Oh no, I didn't get over to the Lost and the Damned yet. The only thing that profits is Daemons. But everyone's screwed because virtually everyone's in the Warp, and the actual legit God Emperor can drop the Legion of the Damned on whoever-he-damn-pleases.

Or you know the heroes of the imperium banned together and Uskar Creed, Esienhorn, Yarrick, and the Marbo all join together to become the greatest fighting force in the galaxy.

The Ultramarines Primarch turns out to be a traitor.

The Alpha Legion is thrown into chaos, the legion being split between the loyalists and the traitors.

The Black Legion and all the traitor legions now secluded on terra and the solar system delve into chaos as they begin to fight each other and die by each others hand.

Abbaddon unable to control the other legions is challenged by lucius the eternal who are now both cut off from the runious powers.

The Chaos Gods abandoning the Gaxaly as their task is now complete.

The Demon primarch's powers are lost and are left stranded in the eye of terror, as the begin to war unmost themselves.

The Thousand sons purge themselves of chaos and try to rejoin the imperium after Ahriman sacrificed himself to save his legion from his curse, and Magnus the Red moved by this attacks the Iron Warrior's Homeworld to find his enemy... The Wolf of Fenris.

The Salamanders are reunited with their primarch as are the White Scars and the Raven Guard.

The Three first founding chapters after hearing of the betrayal of the ultramarines gather their chapter fleets and march upon the ultramarines.

The Dark Angel is reformed into the legion and the Black templars, Imperial Fists, Crimson fists reform as well joining in a crusade fleet to end the torment of the blood angels who have succumbed to the black rage.

The Eldar join the tau empire, and manipulate them to their will.

The Orcs and the Tyranids fight each other.

The Necrons awake and begin to fight each other and the tyranids begin to attack them as well.

The Void Dragon awakens within mars and begins to rip apart the traitor legions that had foolishly landed on mars.

The Sisters of Battle fight in desperation to coup with the death of the emperor and the highlords.

Before the Emperor's death:

Cypher before the death of the emperor presented himself to the emperor and the fallen are finally forgiven for their transgressions, Lion El'Johnson Awakens and leads the dark angels away from terra.

Meanwhile half of the Blood Angels finally succumb to the black rage. Only half of the chapter escapes the carnage, And Dante and his chapter remants leave to defend holy terra against the black crusade.

The black Templars meanwhile are finally able to defeat Gazhugull, but the mighty Chaplain Grimmadulas finally dies for the final time.

The Cadian's sadden by their homeworlds destruction redeploy their forces to holy terra.


ETC ETC ETC.

If you read the DE codex, IT almost seems like there is a nice start for an End times.

On the timeline "Age of Plenty" seems to be about something troubling the DE. Urien has started to get a bad feeling like he did right before "The fall of the eldar". The khaine gate that has been under supervison by vect and his hired incubi, has started to show signs of breaking open with the Deamons of chaos trying very hard to breaking in. Vect thinks Lady malys is behind the plot to open the gate as a way to over throw Vect and take control.

Here is my theory: Gate breaks open, Warp is unleashed upon the DE. Vect is killed, Lady Malys and her Kabal take over. In need of help, They ask for the aid of Craftworld Eldar, and non other than the GK(lets face it, GW will find a way to get the Imperium some glory). This could possibly be a great way for another campaign as well. DE, Eldar and GK vs. The overwhelming tide of Chaos deamons pooring through the warp. Does anyone else see this as a possible start for a campaign/End times?

I still vote Malice is born, Farsight returns to the Tau Empire to start a war against the Ethereals, and Robot Girlyman returns and starts a civil war in the Imperium.

A 5th chaos god would undoubtedly cause all kinds of fun. Even within Chaos itself.

DaKKaLAnce wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

Oh no, I didn't get over to the Lost and the Damned yet. The only thing that profits is Daemons. But everyone's screwed because virtually everyone's in the Warp, and the actual legit God Emperor can drop the Legion of the Damned on whoever-he-damn-pleases.

Or you know the heroes of the imperium banned together and Uskar Creed, Esienhorn, Yarrick, and the Marbo all join together to become the greatest fighting force in the galaxy.

The Ultramarines Primarch turns out to be a traitor.

The Alpha Legion is thrown into chaos, the legion being split between the loyalists and the traitors.

The Black Legion and all the traitor legions now secluded on terra and the solar system delve into chaos as they begin to fight each other and die by each others hand.

Abbaddon unable to control the other legions is challenged by lucius the eternal who are now both cut off from the runious powers.

The Chaos Gods abandoning the Gaxaly as their task is now complete.

The Demon primarch's powers are lost and are left stranded in the eye of terror, as the begin to war unmost themselves.

The Thousand sons purge themselves of chaos and try to rejoin the imperium after Ahriman sacrificed himself to save his legion from his curse, and Magnus the Red moved by this attacks the Iron Warrior's Homeworld to find his enemy... The Wolf of Fenris.

The Salamanders are reunited with their primarch as are the White Scars and the Raven Guard.

The Three first founding chapters after hearing of the betrayal of the ultramarines gather their chapter fleets and march upon the ultramarines.

The Dark Angel is reformed into the legion and the Black templars, Imperial Fists, Crimson fists reform as well joining in a crusade fleet to end the torment of the blood angels who have succumbed to the black rage.

The Eldar join the tau empire, and manipulate them to their will.

The Orcs and the Tyranids fight each other.

The Necrons awake and begin to fight each other and the tyranids begin to attack them as well.

The Void Dragon awakens within mars and begins to rip apart the traitor legions that had foolishly landed on mars.

The Sisters of Battle fight in desperation to coup with the death of the emperor and the highlords.

Before the Emperor's death:

Cypher before the death of the emperor presented himself to the emperor and the fallen are finally forgiven for their transgressions, Lion El'Johnson Awakens and leads the dark angels away from terra.

Meanwhile half of the Blood Angels finally succumb to the black rage. Only half of the chapter escapes the carnage, And Dante and his chapter remants leave to defend holy terra against the black crusade.

The black Templars meanwhile are finally able to defeat Gazhugull, but the mighty Chaplain Grimmadulas finally dies for the final time.

The Cadian's sadden by their homeworlds destruction redeploy their forces to holy terra.


ETC ETC ETC.

If you read the DE codex, IT almost seems like there is a nice start for an End times.

On the timeline "Age of Plenty" seems to be about something troubling the DE. Urien has started to get a bad feeling like he did right before "The fall of the eldar". The khaine gate that has been under supervison by vect and his hired incubi, has started to show signs of breaking open with the Deamons of chaos trying very hard to breaking in. Vect thinks Lady malys is behind the plot to open the gate as a way to over throw Vect and take control.

Here is my theory: Gate breaks open, Warp is unleashed upon the DE. Vect is killed, Lady Malys and her Kabal take over. In need of help, They ask for the aid of Craftworld Eldar, and non other than the GK(lets face it, GW will find a way to get the Imperium some glory). This could possibly be a great way for another campaign as well. DE, Eldar and GK vs. The overwhelming tide of Chaos deamons pooring through the warp. Does anyone else see this as a possible start for a campaign/End times?

That's cool, but it needs to be more universal: say that Daemons are spewing forth from the Webway everywhere in the galaxy, and that the Imperium and stuff decide that seeing as they can't close the webway exits, they need to go in and cut off the tide of daemons at the source. And CSM should use this distraction to finally get some black crusades going: say, one from the Maelstrom, one from the Eye (again), one from the Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, one for the Screaming Vortex...
The Orks could all leave into the Webway, looking for even bigger fights!
And the Necrons and Tyranids could do something: say, it a few Norn Queens could get possessed by daemons, so there'd be a 'Nid civil war, or maybe the general devastation could finally force the 'Crons to get gak done and all ally behind the Silent King to fight off the Tyranids. This would explain why the entire galaxy didn't fall to Tyranids or Orks while everyone was fighting a resurgent Chaos.

Killing the Emperor doesn't have to be a big deal.

They could easily say it was discovered that the Emperor has actually been dead for a long time. It's the 1000 psychers dying every day that have been maintaining the Astronomican.

Emperor is dead... And it doesn't matter.

 Talon of Anathrax wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

Oh no, I didn't get over to the Lost and the Damned yet. The only thing that profits is Daemons. But everyone's screwed because virtually everyone's in the Warp, and the actual legit God Emperor can drop the Legion of the Damned on whoever-he-damn-pleases.

Or you know the heroes of the imperium banned together and Uskar Creed, Esienhorn, Yarrick, and the Marbo all join together to become the greatest fighting force in the galaxy.

The Ultramarines Primarch turns out to be a traitor.

The Alpha Legion is thrown into chaos, the legion being split between the loyalists and the traitors.

The Black Legion and all the traitor legions now secluded on terra and the solar system delve into chaos as they begin to fight each other and die by each others hand.

Abbaddon unable to control the other legions is challenged by lucius the eternal who are now both cut off from the runious powers.

The Chaos Gods abandoning the Gaxaly as their task is now complete.

The Demon primarch's powers are lost and are left stranded in the eye of terror, as the begin to war unmost themselves.

The Thousand sons purge themselves of chaos and try to rejoin the imperium after Ahriman sacrificed himself to save his legion from his curse, and Magnus the Red moved by this attacks the Iron Warrior's Homeworld to find his enemy... The Wolf of Fenris.

The Salamanders are reunited with their primarch as are the White Scars and the Raven Guard.

The Three first founding chapters after hearing of the betrayal of the ultramarines gather their chapter fleets and march upon the ultramarines.

The Dark Angel is reformed into the legion and the Black templars, Imperial Fists, Crimson fists reform as well joining in a crusade fleet to end the torment of the blood angels who have succumbed to the black rage.

The Eldar join the tau empire, and manipulate them to their will.

The Orcs and the Tyranids fight each other.

The Necrons awake and begin to fight each other and the tyranids begin to attack them as well.

The Void Dragon awakens within mars and begins to rip apart the traitor legions that had foolishly landed on mars.

The Sisters of Battle fight in desperation to coup with the death of the emperor and the highlords.

Before the Emperor's death:

Cypher before the death of the emperor presented himself to the emperor and the fallen are finally forgiven for their transgressions, Lion El'Johnson Awakens and leads the dark angels away from terra.

Meanwhile half of the Blood Angels finally succumb to the black rage. Only half of the chapter escapes the carnage, And Dante and his chapter remants leave to defend holy terra against the black crusade.

The black Templars meanwhile are finally able to defeat Gazhugull, but the mighty Chaplain Grimmadulas finally dies for the final time.

The Cadian's sadden by their homeworlds destruction redeploy their forces to holy terra.


ETC ETC ETC.

If you read the DE codex, IT almost seems like there is a nice start for an End times.

On the timeline "Age of Plenty" seems to be about something troubling the DE. Urien has started to get a bad feeling like he did right before "The fall of the eldar". The khaine gate that has been under supervison by vect and his hired incubi, has started to show signs of breaking open with the Deamons of chaos trying very hard to breaking in. Vect thinks Lady malys is behind the plot to open the gate as a way to over throw Vect and take control.

Here is my theory: Gate breaks open, Warp is unleashed upon the DE. Vect is killed, Lady Malys and her Kabal take over. In need of help, They ask for the aid of Craftworld Eldar, and non other than the GK(lets face it, GW will find a way to get the Imperium some glory). This could possibly be a great way for another campaign as well. DE, Eldar and GK vs. The overwhelming tide of Chaos deamons pooring through the warp. Does anyone else see this as a possible start for a campaign/End times?

That's cool, but it needs to be more universal: say that Daemons are spewing forth from the Webway everywhere in the galaxy, and that the Imperium and stuff decide that seeing as they can't close the webway exits, they need to go in and cut off the tide of daemons at the source. And CSM should use this distraction to finally get some black crusades going: say, one from the Maelstrom, one from the Eye (again), one from the Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, one for the Screaming Vortex...
The Orks could all leave into the Webway, looking for even bigger fights!
And the Necrons and Tyranids could do something: say, it a few Norn Queens could get possessed by daemons, so there'd be a 'Nid civil war, or maybe the general devastation could finally force the 'Crons to get gak done and all ally behind the Silent King to fight off the Tyranids. This would explain why the entire galaxy didn't fall to Tyranids or Orks while everyone was fighting a resurgent Chaos.

Well this will just be a start for more things to come.... Once the breach has been made, then obviously Chaos will find new ways to spread through the galaxy. The GK will be the first line of Defense. Since GK doesnt really have any beef with Xenos, and are stricly Daemons, It would be good for fluff that they are there to help seal Khaines gate. All this chaos can trigger something bigger. If anything , this will be a great campaign GW could start.

 Archonate wrote:
Killing the Emperor doesn't have to be a big deal.

They could easily say it was discovered that the Emperor has actually been dead for a long time. It's the 1000 psychers dying every day that have been maintaining the Astronomican.

Emperor is dead... And it doesn't matter.

That would be the best, most mature and most grimdark thing I can imagine. I'd love that - it would re ally push the entire setting forward, and wouldn't put any bias on the Imperium, other than showing that what makes Humanity powerful, is its will to survive!

I'd imagine this would fit perfectly with Robout Guilliman recovering and going against the Imperium, to make himself leader and rally the galaxy.

DaKKaLAnce wrote:

 Talon of Anathrax wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

Oh no, I didn't get over to the Lost and the Damned yet. The only thing that profits is Daemons. But everyone's screwed because virtually everyone's in the Warp, and the actual legit God Emperor can drop the Legion of the Damned on whoever-he-damn-pleases.

Or you know the heroes of the imperium banned together and Uskar Creed, Esienhorn, Yarrick, and the Marbo all join together to become the greatest fighting force in the galaxy.

The Ultramarines Primarch turns out to be a traitor.

The Alpha Legion is thrown into chaos, the legion being split between the loyalists and the traitors.

The Black Legion and all the traitor legions now secluded on terra and the solar system delve into chaos as they begin to fight each other and die by each others hand.

Abbaddon unable to control the other legions is challenged by lucius the eternal who are now both cut off from the runious powers.

The Chaos Gods abandoning the Gaxaly as their task is now complete.

The Demon primarch's powers are lost and are left stranded in the eye of terror, as the begin to war unmost themselves.

The Thousand sons purge themselves of chaos and try to rejoin the imperium after Ahriman sacrificed himself to save his legion from his curse, and Magnus the Red moved by this attacks the Iron Warrior's Homeworld to find his enemy... The Wolf of Fenris.

The Salamanders are reunited with their primarch as are the White Scars and the Raven Guard.

The Three first founding chapters after hearing of the betrayal of the ultramarines gather their chapter fleets and march upon the ultramarines.

The Dark Angel is reformed into the legion and the Black templars, Imperial Fists, Crimson fists reform as well joining in a crusade fleet to end the torment of the blood angels who have succumbed to the black rage.

The Eldar join the tau empire, and manipulate them to their will.

The Orcs and the Tyranids fight each other.

The Necrons awake and begin to fight each other and the tyranids begin to attack them as well.

The Void Dragon awakens within mars and begins to rip apart the traitor legions that had foolishly landed on mars.

The Sisters of Battle fight in desperation to coup with the death of the emperor and the highlords.

Before the Emperor's death:

Cypher before the death of the emperor presented himself to the emperor and the fallen are finally forgiven for their transgressions, Lion El'Johnson Awakens and leads the dark angels away from terra.

Meanwhile half of the Blood Angels finally succumb to the black rage. Only half of the chapter escapes the carnage, And Dante and his chapter remants leave to defend holy terra against the black crusade.

The black Templars meanwhile are finally able to defeat Gazhugull, but the mighty Chaplain Grimmadulas finally dies for the final time.

The Cadian's sadden by their homeworlds destruction redeploy their forces to holy terra.


ETC ETC ETC.

If you read the DE codex, IT almost seems like there is a nice start for an End times.

On the timeline "Age of Plenty" seems to be about something troubling the DE. Urien has started to get a bad feeling like he did right before "The fall of the eldar". The khaine gate that has been under supervison by vect and his hired incubi, has started to show signs of breaking open with the Deamons of chaos trying very hard to breaking in. Vect thinks Lady malys is behind the plot to open the gate as a way to over throw Vect and take control.

Here is my theory: Gate breaks open, Warp is unleashed upon the DE. Vect is killed, Lady Malys and her Kabal take over. In need of help, They ask for the aid of Craftworld Eldar, and non other than the GK(lets face it, GW will find a way to get the Imperium some glory). This could possibly be a great way for another campaign as well. DE, Eldar and GK vs. The overwhelming tide of Chaos deamons pooring through the warp. Does anyone else see this as a possible start for a campaign/End times?

That's cool, but it needs to be more universal: say that Daemons are spewing forth from the Webway everywhere in the galaxy, and that the Imperium and stuff decide that seeing as they can't close the webway exits, they need to go in and cut off the tide of daemons at the source. And CSM should use this distraction to finally get some black crusades going: say, one from the Maelstrom, one from the Eye (again), one from the Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, one for the Screaming Vortex...
The Orks could all leave into the Webway, looking for even bigger fights!
And the Necrons and Tyranids could do something: say, it a few Norn Queens could get possessed by daemons, so there'd be a 'Nid civil war, or maybe the general devastation could finally force the 'Crons to get gak done and all ally behind the Silent King to fight off the Tyranids. This would explain why the entire galaxy didn't fall to Tyranids or Orks while everyone was fighting a resurgent Chaos.

Well this will just be a start for more things to come.... Once the breach has been made, then obviously Chaos will find new ways to spread through the galaxy. The GK will be the first line of Defense. Since GK doesnt really have any beef with Xenos, and are stricly Daemons, It would be good for fluff that they are there to help seal Khaines gate. All this chaos can trigger something bigger. If anything , this will be a great campaign GW could start.

WEll we could also have it that Terra is abandoned and Mars just leaves the Terran System to its fate.

It seems we might actually get an end times.

All the newer codexes hint about something big on the horizon.

Particularly the ork dex which says Gork and Mork are not only real but heading for real space.

"Brainboyz" are described now as powerful warriors that will return (old ones)

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
It seems we might actually get an end times.

All the newer codexes hint about something big on the horizon.

Particularly the ork dex which says Gork and Mork are not only real but heading for real space.

"Brainboyz" are described now as powerful warriors that will return (old ones)

damn that would be cool. The Imperium meets the old ones.....

Well im curious to see if my theory happens...Losing Vect will be big. He doesnt have a model, and he was removed from the codex? Maybe there is an actual good reason for it.....

I wouldn't mind if Dark Lord Seanron's story comes true XD

 Asherian Command wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:

 Talon of Anathrax wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Basically, everyone but your favorite faction gets dicked over, niiiiiice

Oh no, I didn't get over to the Lost and the Damned yet. The only thing that profits is Daemons. But everyone's screwed because virtually everyone's in the Warp, and the actual legit God Emperor can drop the Legion of the Damned on whoever-he-damn-pleases.

Or you know the heroes of the imperium banned together and Uskar Creed, Esienhorn, Yarrick, and the Marbo all join together to become the greatest fighting force in the galaxy.

The Ultramarines Primarch turns out to be a traitor.

The Alpha Legion is thrown into chaos, the legion being split between the loyalists and the traitors.

The Black Legion and all the traitor legions now secluded on terra and the solar system delve into chaos as they begin to fight each other and die by each others hand.

Abbaddon unable to control the other legions is challenged by lucius the eternal who are now both cut off from the runious powers.

The Chaos Gods abandoning the Gaxaly as their task is now complete.

The Demon primarch's powers are lost and are left stranded in the eye of terror, as the begin to war unmost themselves.

The Thousand sons purge themselves of chaos and try to rejoin the imperium after Ahriman sacrificed himself to save his legion from his curse, and Magnus the Red moved by this attacks the Iron Warrior's Homeworld to find his enemy... The Wolf of Fenris.

The Salamanders are reunited with their primarch as are the White Scars and the Raven Guard.

The Three first founding chapters after hearing of the betrayal of the ultramarines gather their chapter fleets and march upon the ultramarines.

The Dark Angel is reformed into the legion and the Black templars, Imperial Fists, Crimson fists reform as well joining in a crusade fleet to end the torment of the blood angels who have succumbed to the black rage.

The Eldar join the tau empire, and manipulate them to their will.

The Orcs and the Tyranids fight each other.

The Necrons awake and begin to fight each other and the tyranids begin to attack them as well.

The Void Dragon awakens within mars and begins to rip apart the traitor legions that had foolishly landed on mars.

The Sisters of Battle fight in desperation to coup with the death of the emperor and the highlords.

Before the Emperor's death:

Cypher before the death of the emperor presented himself to the emperor and the fallen are finally forgiven for their transgressions, Lion El'Johnson Awakens and leads the dark angels away from terra.

Meanwhile half of the Blood Angels finally succumb to the black rage. Only half of the chapter escapes the carnage, And Dante and his chapter remants leave to defend holy terra against the black crusade.

The black Templars meanwhile are finally able to defeat Gazhugull, but the mighty Chaplain Grimmadulas finally dies for the final time.

The Cadian's sadden by their homeworlds destruction redeploy their forces to holy terra.


ETC ETC ETC.

If you read the DE codex, IT almost seems like there is a nice start for an End times.

On the timeline "Age of Plenty" seems to be about something troubling the DE. Urien has started to get a bad feeling like he did right before "The fall of the eldar". The khaine gate that has been under supervison by vect and his hired incubi, has started to show signs of breaking open with the Deamons of chaos trying very hard to breaking in. Vect thinks Lady malys is behind the plot to open the gate as a way to over throw Vect and take control.

Here is my theory: Gate breaks open, Warp is unleashed upon the DE. Vect is killed, Lady Malys and her Kabal take over. In need of help, They ask for the aid of Craftworld Eldar, and non other than the GK(lets face it, GW will find a way to get the Imperium some glory). This could possibly be a great way for another campaign as well. DE, Eldar and GK vs. The overwhelming tide of Chaos deamons pooring through the warp. Does anyone else see this as a possible start for a campaign/End times?

That's cool, but it needs to be more universal: say that Daemons are spewing forth from the Webway everywhere in the galaxy, and that the Imperium and stuff decide that seeing as they can't close the webway exits, they need to go in and cut off the tide of daemons at the source. And CSM should use this distraction to finally get some black crusades going: say, one from the Maelstrom, one from the Eye (again), one from the Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, one for the Screaming Vortex...
The Orks could all leave into the Webway, looking for even bigger fights!
And the Necrons and Tyranids could do something: say, it a few Norn Queens could get possessed by daemons, so there'd be a 'Nid civil war, or maybe the general devastation could finally force the 'Crons to get gak done and all ally behind the Silent King to fight off the Tyranids. This would explain why the entire galaxy didn't fall to Tyranids or Orks while everyone was fighting a resurgent Chaos.

Well this will just be a start for more things to come.... Once the breach has been made, then obviously Chaos will find new ways to spread through the galaxy. The GK will be the first line of Defense. Since GK doesnt really have any beef with Xenos, and are stricly Daemons, It would be good for fluff that they are there to help seal Khaines gate. All this chaos can trigger something bigger. If anything , this will be a great campaign GW could start.

WEll we could also have it that Terra is abandoned and Mars just leaves the Terran System to its fate.

No no, I meant that daemons sptart spilling out of webway gates all arounf the galxy, on random planets everywhere. Only holding them back at the source cans top the accessing every gate on every planet.

There is one end times fanfic set in the 43rd millennium where Abbadon makes the super orks (orks have grown to massive sizes in the 43rd millennium) all shought WWAAAAGGGGGHHH!!!! at once, creating a new eye of terror for Khorne based at Armageddon.
Pretty fething cool.

If this 40k End Times would follow the direction of WHFB and condense the factions, I'd be all for it. Heck, if all you did was condense out the faction books that are *literally* the same faction (i.e. Red, Blue, Grey, Darker Grey, and Green Space Marines, IG and their Elite branch) and put Chaos back together (CSM + Daemons), you'd knock out six factions right off the bat. And that's not counting the silly factions like Inquisition, Imperial Knights, and Office Assassinorum that could be condensed simply because the Imperium doesn't need ten different-ish factions.

Somewhere down the line you could end up with ten factions, which feels much more diverse than marines-on-marines-on-marines.

Considering the license to print money that The End Times has been for Fantasy, I would say GW already has end times 40k on the calendar and in the works.

That being said, I would love to see it, as GW's basically been blue-balling us for something in the neighborhood of a quarter century. I imagine the festivities would begin with the 13th Black Crusade and the Fall of Cadia. From there the 13th Black Crusade spills across the Western half of the Galaxy, the main body of the force making a bee line for Holy Terra. Simultaneously, Hive Fleets begin to arrive in greater force from the Eastern half of the galaxy, of such size they make Behemoth and Leviathan look like little more than scouts. From the you would of course have the WAAAGH to end all WAAAGHS!, awakening/rescue of Gulliman, The Lion, Leman Russ (probably rescued by the former to smooth over the hard feelings), and Vulkan, Grey Knights opening their deus ex machina in a box and resurrecting the Emperor, and so on.

I wonder if the thing that's coming that's hinted in the 40k codices is a new xeno. Its been awhile since we've gotten a new army and GW's profits dipped a little and what better to bump their profits up than a new army.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
I wonder if the thing that's coming that's hinted in the 40k codices is a new xeno. Its been awhile since we've gotten a new army and GW's profits dipped a little and what better to bump their profits up than a new army.

They'd make more money making an imperial faction like the ad mech.

I'm sure the imperial Knights were a success, since practically everyone has one or more.

 Crazyterran wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
I wonder if the thing that's coming that's hinted in the 40k codices is a new xeno. Its been awhile since we've gotten a new army and GW's profits dipped a little and what better to bump their profits up than a new army.

They'd make more money making an imperial faction like the ad mech.

I'm sure the imperial Knights were a success, since practically everyone has one or more.

I honestly think there's two factors that made them such a success: crunch, and large models.

They're stupid good and they're very large robotic models. Riptides are in the same vein, every store near me still has issues keeping riptides on the shelf because of power-level and giant robot factor.

While Imperial factions pull in current players, typically new xenos appeal to newer players. I know when I started with my friends it was the time the Nids/Necrons/Tau first being core and we all were brought into them game by those three.

If the End Times happen in Warhammer 40k, I would like to see an epic battle in which everyone dies. The Necron are wiped out. The Tyranids go extinct. Emperor, Chaos Gods, Mork and Gork, Cegorach perish together. The Warp closes.

And the few remaining humans will live to tell the tales of how foolish their ancestors were as they rebuild civilization into glory once more.

I think I've already said 'no' to this. I like it the way it is.

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
I think I've already said 'no' to this. I like it the way it is.

As I say previously in the thread, some people are jumping to huge conclusions of course about End Times in 40k, but it doesn't have to mean drastic changes, just slight shake ups such as civil wars or such popping up introducing some new sub-factions or such into the lore.

bibotot wrote:
If the End Times happen in Warhammer 40k, I would like to see an epic battle in which everyone dies. The Necron are wiped out. The Tyranids go extinct. Emperor, Chaos Gods, Mork and Gork, Cegorach perish together. The Warp closes.

And the few remaining humans will live to tell the tales of how foolish their ancestors were as they rebuild civilization into glory once more.

Or live in peace as seperate sectorstates in the shadow of looming ruin, who solemnly tell the tale of anciennt empires and incredible wars, fueled by hate and wrsth. Adventurers and exploreers might trsvel the stars and discover hidden relics of the past, and it will be a new age...

You know, clean slate. Saving humanity by uprooting it and beginning anew.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
I think I've already said 'no' to this. I like it the way it is.

As I say previously in the thread, some people are jumping to huge conclusions of course about End Times in 40k, but it doesn't have to mean drastic changes, just slight shake ups such as civil wars or such popping up introducing some new sub-factions or such into the lore.

Unfortunately you are the only voice of moderation here, and thus GW will go all wacko with 40k and we'll suddenly lose three factions and have calgar and Draigo die and Primarchs come back, etc. etc.

 Asherian Command wrote:
The Necrons awake and begin to fight each other and the tyranids begin to attack them as well.

Feels more like.... The Silent King returns and unites the majority of the Necron race to fight the Tyrannids.