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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 20:00:31
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Executing Exarch
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Gak that really cements my PHR choice...
Mod Edit: Be careful not to circumvent the swear filter, please!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 20:02:32
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Lieutenant General
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judgedoug wrote:That's beautiful. OMG I may have to get a UCM and PHR fleet.
They look like Giger xenomorph heads - so that's probably why I am in love with them
Actually to me they bear a passing resemblance to some of the Zentraedi ships from Robotech. I still like them however
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 20:20:44
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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The New Miss Macross!
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I really like the design but there is something about the fins in the head on view that once seen can't be unseen...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 20:34:39
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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If it hits 500k I'm in. Totally sold on PHR and UCM model wise. Don't really care about the rest model wise but it'll come with enough stuff to be worth it at that point
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 21:03:47
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Major
In a van down by the river
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judgedoug wrote:
Honestly the Shaltari look so bizarre and alien that I think once they're 3d and in-hand they'll be several orders of magnitude better - and imagine a whole fleet of them on the table.
Yeah, I think you're right which I want to reserve judgement until I see them. Weird designs on paper often get much better in reality. However, in the " KS money" equation I've learned not to bet that way on the initial pledge.  Plus, it's not like I can't find other things like mats to spend the money on when the time comes to actually decide what I want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 21:09:20
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Still not sure how I feel about the folding paper mats. Seems like a stopgap placeholder not something to be spending 15 pounds a set on.
Is there a folding equivalent to these for DZC? Maybe my impression of what's on offer is off.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 21:30:37
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Eldarain wrote:Still not sure how I feel about the folding paper mats. Seems like a stopgap placeholder not something to be spending 15 pounds a set on.
Is there a folding equivalent to these for DZC? Maybe my impression of what's on offer is off.
The boxed set comes with one. Its fairly sturdy but its still just paper so it doesn't last. I would be very interested in plastic versions though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 21:31:55
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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I kinda don't get why there's doubt about the Shaltari to be honest. - It seems to me that they're the faction that's closest to their Dropzone Commander counterparts.
Particularly comparing them against the gates, Firedrake and the Totem Warspire.
I think I'm sticking with my initial plan of going for Captain, then holding off to get the PHR at retail. - I'm actually kinda mixed about that cruiser design myself for some reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 21:48:13
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Hacking Shang Jí
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Holy. Yes. I'm in.
Exact words spoken out loud just now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 21:48:22
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Screaming Shining Spear
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warboss wrote:
I really like the design but there is something about the fins in the head on view that once seen can't be unseen...

You cruel fiend
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 22:08:32
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Luckily, that's kind of a fake 2D head-on computer view, you'll never actually view it that way
But yeah, not cool warboss
Really love the PHR design aesthetic! I look forward to playing against it  . The 3 of us splitting a pledge are now solidified as UCM, Scourge, and PHR.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 00:43:32
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Halo ist FSA repackaged and altered somehow. Nice, but not really up to DFC. Also the packaging of the overlays tries to copy X-Wing but does not really get it right.
This makes my choice easier... Shaltari or PHR? PHR it is for my UCM as opponent.
The ship actually remindes me of a Barracuda.
Original PHR painting was ivory and white and then gloss over it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 01:30:38
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Compel wrote:I kinda don't get why there's doubt about the Shaltari to be honest. - It seems to me that they're the faction that's closest to their Dropzone Commander counterparts.
Particularly comparing them against the gates, Firedrake and the Totem Warspire.
Might have something to do with the fact that I don't care for the Shaltari aesthetic in DZC either.  However, for some reason I'm a bit more lenient with how my alien spaceships look then how alien ground-based assets look so I'm not going to write-off the faction. I'll concede it's odd, but that's why I'm skeptical that I'll get sometthing I want out of that money and would need more convincing on that one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 09:38:41
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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In the PHR excitment, I forgot to post this: Free for all backers: Wonder if they'll allow more of them to be purchased...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 10:12:43
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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Compel wrote:I kinda don't get why there's doubt about the Shaltari to be honest. - It seems to me that they're the faction that's closest to their Dropzone Commander counterparts.
See, that's the reason I'm not as excited by them as I am by the other three races, despite wanting a Shaltari fleet. The other three - UCM and Scourge in particular - look quite different to their ground vehicles, but the Shaltari just look like I'll be painting more of the same red models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 17:54:25
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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You guys asked for it, and it's here - a pledge that lets you get more faction starters instead of a second starter set! Also each of the exclusive Battlecruisers!
Update #7 - We are listening, and we would like to present...
1. It feels like a long time since we launched this Kickstarter, however as we enter day 6 (and if you are following closely on these updates, you will notice this is for the second time - we thought it was already day 6 yesterday; it was only day 5) we are excited by the continued uptake and interest there has been. Thank you again!
2. The next key point of this update is to let you all know that we have been reading your comments and seeing emails about the pledge levels. We have taken stock of what many have been saying about the Captain Pledge level specifically, and would like to therefore present a brand new pledge level: The Commodore Pledge Level.
For this pledge, you will get:
1 x Dropfleet Commander 2 Player Starter Set
2 x Faction Starter Fleets of your choice from UCM, Scourge, PHR, Shaltari
Kickstarter Exclusive UCMF Atlantis model.
3 x Kickstarter Exclusive Battlecruisers (choice from those unlocking on the 25th Nov)
This is a "High Rank" Level and so all backers at this level receive the High Rank Rewards as well as the "All Backer" Rewards.
3. The final topic for the update today, is that we are announcing what the next unlock is:
The Launch Assets Pack will unlock at the £275k mark - which we are quite close to now! This pack will be explained in full in the next update.
Thank you again for your support!
The Hawk Wargames Team
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 18:19:18
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Executing Exarch
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That seals it, Commodore for me, should net me enough of each race to get some games going... And I'm all over those fighters. I didn't think they'd do them but that is fantastic news.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 18:51:32
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Tasty! And leaves me with a dilemma... Captain or commodore...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 19:05:59
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Its kinda a bummer for me. Resistance is my favorite army. I hope they get something for this game. like maybe a special scenario ship.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 19:21:08
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Phr is going to be my side although would like the armoured hull parts little more segmented than flat. Ucm and phr for me I think
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 19:22:14
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Aren't the Resistance the one faction unlikely to use massive spaceships? Even so, if you want a Resistance fleet, they should be the easiest faction to convert for. Heck, just buy some Halo or Yamato ships and add on all the spare UCM guns you can find.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 19:25:50
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dave pretty much ruled out Resistance for DFC in a recent podcast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 19:44:22
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Alex C wrote:Dave pretty much ruled out Resistance for DFC in a recent podcast.
No surprise there.
I cannot see how a ragtag faction of resistance fighters hiding from an invading alien presence on their world could develop a fleet without causing attention.
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Peace through power!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 19:55:23
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:
No surprise there.
I cannot see how a ragtag faction of resistance fighters hiding from an invading alien presence on their world could develop a fleet without causing attention.
They weren't completely ruled out, a fleet would certainly be impossible but there are apparently some sort of resistance elements planned, Defence monitors were one suggestion. Quite how people hiding underground on planets whose entire fleet of space capable craft were either destroyed or fled the Scourge invasion still have Monitors is anyones guess but....
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My PLog
Curently: DZC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 20:19:55
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - New fleets pledge level, Ordnance Render
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Alex C wrote:Dave pretty much ruled out Resistance for DFC in a recent podcast.
Sort of. This is summary of what he said: The planetary resistance wouldn't have much space craft beyond the use of shuttles, maybe heavy lifters. All local craft were destroyed by the invasion. Pre-war Earth vessels may have made random "Leg-it" jumps to save themselves when faced with the hordes of Scourge. They would have ended up on distant unexplored systems and in the gaps between stars occasionally doing daring raids on the cradle worlds to grab supplies, fuel, etc. Dave called these Survivors and they will most likely either be Scenario ships (rescue this pre-war vessel) or may even be purchasable in very limited amounts for UCM fleets. I do seem to remember when a group of us collared him at Salute that he mentioned that some may have turned pirate, so you could have the odd frigate raiders and the like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 20:23:26
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Commodore Pledge level up - £290k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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Right, but they won't be showing up as a faction.
The odd allied or scenario vessel, sure, but not a whole fleet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 20:45:18
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Commodore Pledge level up - £290k next
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Dankhold Troggoth
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You guys have it - if you want to hear it from Dave himself it's at about 41:30 in this interview:
http://firstwave.podbean.com/e/episode-23-dropfleet-special/
The FLGS players were just discussing this over email this morning, and it makes sense to me. It would be cool to have some pre-invasion relics still functioning (that "fled the scene" as zedmeister described above during the invasion, and have been hiding out in space since) and he definitely sounds open to making some, particularly for scenarios. But he really was adamant that they couldn't maintain a whole fleet and so wouldn't have their own faction list (which makes sense).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 20:46:14
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Commodore Pledge level up - £290k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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There was a specific shout out to Battlestar Galactica style things though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 21:11:28
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Commodore Pledge level up - £290k next
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Compel wrote:There was a specific shout out to Battlestar Galactica style things though.
That is exactly what I thought when I heard it. It certainly seems like something could be fleshed out down the line as a separate faction. Either as resistance or as a space based warlord pirateish fleet.
If those are playable as a complete faction though seem unlikely at this juncture. We il have to wait and see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/05 21:20:13
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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I am with Hulk on this one.
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