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 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I have two ideas so far.

One is old school Rogue Trader scheme. No diamonds but each arm, leg and torso will be a different bright gaudy colour complete with goblin Green bases flocked.

Or

Sin City style black and white with a single splash of colour on marble bases.

I love the sound of the sin city style.

Rules are.....interesting. It's borderline good. I think the rules for the jetbike and the actual codex/detachment rules are going to matter a bit more than with the other units.

Glaive seems like a waste no? I'm incredibly bad at assessing rules.

Str 5 AP2 at Initiative 6 is nothing to sneeze at.

Right, missed Furious Charge.

Then it counts as a power sword which is better then the power lance. You can also use hit and run shenanigans to keep getting that Str. 5 AP 2 goodness.

Those one use explosive bola weapons might catch some people of guard as well. Dropping a couple of Str. 6 AP 2 blast templates can be super nasty and you can still shoot the jetbikes guns.

The reduced armour is a bit of a disappointment but these things look like they excel at alpha striking the enemy really hard out of nowhere.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I have two ideas so far.

One is old school Rogue Trader scheme. No diamonds but each arm, leg and torso will be a different bright gaudy colour complete with goblin Green bases flocked.

Or

Sin City style black and white with a single splash of colour on marble bases.

Like the Sin City idea - done right, that would be tight. Am building a Mymeara host at the mo, so thinking of using a similar palette for the Masque - blues, greens, turquoise with black coats and smatterings of diamonds in various greys to hint at the holofields.

I wonder if they get a formation with a bonus to S for the Hammer of Wraith-attacks...

Januine wrote:
Anyone started thinking of/coming up with colour schemes and name for their Masque yet?!

So many ideas for this...

I would say a base of black, then a muted red to give a dark tone. Followed by checkered yellow, green, red, and blue.

I would call them the "Riaway yi ash lir" or "Nightmare of the Heart".

Ignoring the lame name, the bolas do't make any sense. Why would you bother going into battle with a guy hanging onto the back of your bike armed only with a single-use weapon?

You don't expect to last long enough to justify a two use weapon?

The answer is simple:

How in the world do you expect to come back and retrieve the dang thing after you hucked it at someone?

 insaniak wrote:
Ignoring the lame name, the bolas do't make any sense. Why would you bother going into battle with a guy hanging onto the back of your bike armed only with a single-use weapon?

Maybe it's hijinx?

Harlequin Frank: "Enemy sighted, deploy the super weapon!"
Harlequin Steve: *snicker*
Harlequin Frank: "sigh...you just brought the fething bolas again didn't you"
Harlequin Steve: "You just got Steve'd!"
Harlequin Frank: "I hate you."

 Kanluwen wrote:
The answer is simple:

How in the world do you expect to come back and retrieve the dang thing after you hucked it at someone?

They're bolas. Surely they could carry more than one.

Or have them return to their hand, like Jain Zar's frisbee.



Or just, you know, carry a second weapon, to use when the bolas are gone...

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
The reduced armour is a bit of a disappointment but these things look like they excel at alpha striking the enemy really hard out of nowhere.

I don't mind the reduced armor. I'd love for Guardian jetbikes to drop to 4+ saves when they get updated, honestly. Compared to every other biker, guardians get a 3+ save for free, while other bikes have weaker armor, or armor increases factored into the biker's cost.

 insaniak wrote:
Ignoring the lame name, the bolas do't make any sense. Why would you bother going into battle with a guy hanging onto the back of your bike armed only with a single-use weapon?

What!?! You don't remember the exploding bolas in Moonraker

My theory crafting was right on the money. I'll try to not break my arm patting myself on the back.

Not sure how I feel about the bikes though. The one use weapon is super weaksauce, and the glaive increases an already borderline expensive units' cost. OTOH, 4++ for one turn should be plenty to get them stuck in combat tearing units apart. Could easily see running 6 with Seers attached, wiping units off the field. Just not sure Harley Davistar (officially coined) leaves enough points to have a decent support base. It's ~same points as a seer council, w/ a lot more reliable offense and a lot less durability. One bad round of shooting/missing invis and it's going to take a huge beating.

Depending on what the transport turns out to be like, these guys might go the way of the Vyper.

*Edit*: Didn't notice the lack of grenades on the bikes. I think that's going to pretty well do in any serious attempt at making them assault oriented. Even as a vehicle for haywire cannon, not sure they're worth it. You get one turn to shoot before being forced into jinking to save your investment. Gonna keep thinking about it and see if they grow on me or not.

Those are straight-up trash.

Is that the only thing in the next White Dwarf?
I hope not... I don't want all this spaced out in like a month or something

Still waiting on the complete rules, the bikes themselves may have some sort of grenade like effect.

Seriously, those spears and bolas will be nigh impossible to transport. Even the spears in the WD rules page appear bent (unless we're getting some weird angle photo stuff). Rules are tepid at best, but the models are not gaming miniatures in the least. Too spindly!

The bikes looks like they are on the old 60mm jetbike base.
For the extra size I guess, but still not cool.

I dont know, they are quite expencive in points and easy to kill. The unit on the rules page cost just about 300p.

All in all, I guess this harlequin release is the last nail in the coffin for cc aspect warriors.

 Fayric wrote:
The bikes looks like they are on the old 60mm jetbike base.
.

Were you expecting something else?

 TheKbob wrote:
Seriously, those spears and bolas will be nigh impossible to transport. Even the spears in the WD rules page appear bent (unless we're getting some weird angle photo stuff). Rules are tepid at best, but the models are not gaming miniatures in the least. Too spindly!

Right mate, because *you're* the official on all things gaming. Glad to know, i was kinda confused with these models. Guess i'll just put them next to my Toxicrene and my cryx harrower.....
Oh wait, foam trays. Derp.

Harlies (or Quins if you're in that crowd) seem to have a lot of AP2 weapons.

From Neckutter on Warseer

On sale February 14th, "Harlequin Masques" are for sale along with harlequin heraldry. Sounds like the codex is for sale on that day, and the painting guide as well. Harlequin Masques are what the army is referred to.

So according to him Codex: Harlequin Masques, Skyweaver Jetbikes and the 'Harlequin Heraldry'-Painting Guide book can be preordered this Friday and are released on Saturday Feb 14

Codex: Harlequin Masques?

What an awkward name. Almost as awkward as "'Quins".

Well, that's what they are so why not call the book and the faction Harlequin Masques?

31 euro for 2 bikes and 4 riders......yeah, can do that.

Before the full list gets leaked I cannot believe the Codex pre-order. With the Transport and other models afterwards this is unlike the Orks and Blood Angels releases...