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I just woke up to all the new models. YIPPEE! The new Death Jester and Shadowseer look AWESOME. Fortunately, my FLGS has a couple of everything Harlequin on preorder for me already

 Accolade wrote:

GW's plastics do not cost what they did in 2005, if they did they wouldn't be having these short runs and then ditching the models from sales. GW prices things however the they want- go look at their crapy eBook variety versions and tell me why those electrons cost sooo much to purchase (the Necron eBook cost as much as the old softback books!)

There is absolutely no reason why miniatures that cost what they did in metal cost close to twice that in plastic. And if they really do cost that much more, then why isn't GW making them in metal? They sure don't have interest in conversions anymore so it can't be because of that.

You know, I always have to look back and laugh when I hear people -- including ME -- make the argument that plastic models shouldn't cost more than metal, because plastic is cheaper than metal. I mean, it just sounds so logical. But then, how many of those people (Including me!) when they are asked, will honestly say that they prefer to model and paint metal miniatures? In almost every way that matters, HIPS is a superior material than pretty much everything else out there, including metal -- the significant one being that you can't strip it easily.

And, in almost every way that matters, new plastic multipart models are far superior to their old, metal counterparts. For example, Death Jester 1989 was a great model. I even have some in brand-new (unpainted) condition. But Death Jester 2015 is epic. Solitaire, ditto. Compare a new hero, like Karlaen, with an old one like Mephiston. The cape on Karlaen (multipart plastic) is far, far superior. The smoothness of plastic models is much better. For all large models (Dreadnought+ size) plastic is SO much better than metal that it's not funny. Can you imagine putting together a metal Imperial Knight or Stormraven?

This is not to say that, for nostalgic reasons I suppose, I don't always miss metal miniatures. I often wistfully wish that GW would produce metal minis again!

 pretre wrote:

 Doomaflatchi wrote:
Well, the Starweaver kit does double as something called a Voidweaver, which is a "heavy weapons platform" that will probably be a Heavy Support slot... but I, too, find myself secretly and naively hoping for more units in the final Codex than what we've seen so far. I want Mimes!!

Is that confirmed yet? Last I saw that was just a rumor.

looking at the leaked pictures it does seem that some of what appear to be starweavers don't have the gun/gunner above the drivers head (could just be the angle but I don't think so), plus the leakers o mention them got the rest right

 Paradigm wrote:
It has the handy side-effect that buy buying 4 WDs (£2.40x4) rather than a £30 codex, and still have all the relevant parts.

Except for the Warlord traits, army-wide special rules, artifacts, formations and detachments, etc.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
It has the handy side-effect that buy buying 4 WDs (£2.40x4) rather than a £30 codex, and still have all the relevant parts.

Except for the Warlord traits, army-wide special rules, artifacts, formations and detachments, etc.

None of which are hugely relevant for just using them as plug-and-play allies as I will be. All will be leaked within a week or two anyway,so I can just note that down should I need them..

 Skinnereal wrote:
Still no sign of the codex then?

GW Sales rep called the store yesterday. US codices, dice, datacards and painting book are held up by California dock workers strike.

Well I am interested in them as a primary army since it was my first back in the late 80's early 90's. I would like to see Mimes as they used to have rules, but never models. But I am doubting that they will be made. I am happy that the transport can be something else too, another unit to the table.

Most players I know won't accept handwritten notes in place of the rules. While you may be able to get by using the rules presented in White Dwarf if you're using them as allies (which you didn't mention in your previous post) you will need the codex to play them as a standalone army.

Wow, the tendrils of their strike can even be felt in this niche world.

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
Well I am interested in them as a primary army since it was my first back in the late 80's early 90's. I would like to see Mimes as they used to have rules, but never models. But I am doubting that they will be made. I am happy that the transport can be something else too, another unit to the table.

We're missing at least one heavy, durable unit for this to be a good primary army, I think. Also, we need a flyer, or at least a unit with Skyfire. And a monstrous creature wouldn't hurt

Talys wrote:

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
Well I am interested in them as a primary army since it was my first back in the late 80's early 90's. I would like to see Mimes as they used to have rules, but never models. But I am doubting that they will be made. I am happy that the transport can be something else too, another unit to the table.

We're missing at least one heavy, durable unit for this to be a good primary army, I think. Also, we need a flyer, or at least a unit with Skyfire. And a monstrous creature wouldn't hurt

Give us a Warithlord with a skyfire option and kill all the birds with one stone


I would love to see mockingbirds make a return. They were a modified Vyper that had a virbo cannon (sonic weapon) that the Harlequins used to make music for their dances and then turned it up to 11 for war.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:



I would love to see mockingbirds make a return. They were a modified Vyper that had a virbo cannon (sonic weapon) that the Harlequins used to make music for their dances and then turned it up to 11 for war.

You mean... A dubstep gun ?!


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Talys wrote:

We're missing at least one heavy, durable unit for this to be a good primary army, I think. Also, we need a flyer, or at least a unit with Skyfire. And a monstrous creature wouldn't hurt

Would you also like some fries with that?

But srsly, one of those wouldn't hurt, prefferably flyer - I would even just be ok with Eldar one with a bit changed rules. But, of course, unique one would be just perfect as well

 tdwg83 wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
Still no sign of the codex then?

GW Sales rep called the store yesterday. US codices, dice, datacards and painting book are held up by California dock workers strike.

That's odd - aren't they coming from the UK? Why would they come through California?

Yep it REALLY sucks right now at the ports :/
expect at least a month of delay if stuff is coming through Long beach

Its possible they are coming that way because most of the above are done in china

Codices are printed in China. I would assume the cards are as well.

Ouch, that sucks. Yeah, I guess you're right - codices are printed in China. Here I'm thinking about models - reading comprehension fail. Well, at least the leaks will keep me busy until the codex arrives!

 Veskern wrote:

 MrFlutterPie wrote:



I would love to see mockingbirds make a return. They were a modified Vyper that had a virbo cannon (sonic weapon) that the Harlequins used to make music for their dances and then turned it up to 11 for war.

You mean... A dubstep gun ?!

After the Dark Angels' flying DJ Platform, would make perfect sense to get a few big flying speakers as well

there will definitely be a plastic Death Jester and Shadowseer in my future...
these look like they will be a real challenge to paint...
i like the poses on the ruins for display painting...
i thought Nightspear was a great sculpt, but had to pass on it, since it was Finecast...
so happy to see that these are plastic!!!

cheers
jah

 Desubot wrote:
Yep it REALLY sucks right now at the ports :/
expect at least a month of delay if stuff is coming through Long beach

Its possible they are coming that way because most of the above are done in china

Oh Well, this is going to throw off the arrival of some of my KS stuff as well, I bet.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
I'm wondering if the death jester(s) come in units and if so if that model comes with more than the one weapon. Anyones guess really.

It looks like a monopose clampack so almost certainly not.

Thats a shame. If they do come in units only having 2 designs will be a real problem but it may inspire some great conversions if so. So that's something to look forward to.

 ceorron wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
I'm wondering if the death jester(s) come in units and if so if that model comes with more than the one weapon. Anyones guess really.

It looks like a monopose clampack so almost certainly not.

Thats a shame. If they do come in units only having 2 designs will be a real problem but it may inspire some great conversions if so. So that's something to look forward to.

Maybe they're units of 2 haha. It is a shame, I do wish at least some of the clampacks had more options. I know it's flogging a dead horse by now but it does feel like a missed oppertunity.

If DJs can be fielded in units 2 or more squatters will not do it for me.

if an upgrade to a troupe I can deal...

If you can take more than one (which is likely, Sang Priests, Meks etc. are all in a similar situation) then there appear to be at least a couple of skull type masks, some Scourge arms and other bitz and more DJs wouldnt be much of a problem to put together.

I assume they'll work like before (1-3) maybe they will be able to split up like before, maybe not

Shame there's no Great Harlequin model. That would've been a nice new HQ.

I see a couple of ways to convert extras after the two standard models. It's going to depend a lot on the codex. Sad to hear it won't be available for purchase the day of due to the strike. Makes me sad.

It's odd that we've seen the cover of the WD now, and pics of one of the interior pages, but no rules have leaked yet. Hmmm...

The official GW Leakmaster went over his data plan this month. No more hasty phone pictures until he pre-pays.

Some pics taken for you guys from the new White Dwarf
The Voidweaver comes with haywire blaster for 5 points can get the prism blaster. Can be 1-3 per squadron. 1 shuriken cannon is rear arc and can fire at a different target.

So it seems Harlequins wont have a HQ choice, then.
I wonder what command benefits (if any) their Detachment will give them...

Looks like if you want to play Bound Harlequins you need the a unit of Skyweavers and Voidweavers, sorry everyone who didn't want to use 'quinbikes.

Why Fear? On a vehicle..