Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k new pics p162

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**ClockworkZion**

Azreal13 wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Wonderwolf wrote:
All Codexes are also supplements.

Just had a look at my Codex: Chaos Space Marines.

On the back, near the 40K-logo, it clearly states "A supplement for Warhammer 40.000". Just sayin.

As for "Codex-supplements" of the kind that require a Codex, as well as the BRB to play, GW seems to have phased those out. Blood Angels didn't get one, nor Necrons or Harlequins. On the other hand, Necrons and Harlequins did get all their formations that used to be in the "supplements" like Champions of Fenris inside the Codex itself (BA being a bit of an odd bridge-product).

Thus, "supplements" sure looks like a retired concept to me. Thoughts?

Since when has a codex been marketed as a supplement though?

Silly rabbit, GW doesn't DO marketing of anything!

I meant the way they label things for sale on their pages and in the WD more than anything.

Though I faintly recall GW doing a thing for Dark Eldar when they came out. Though that could be my mind going.

**Alpharius**

So much potential here...

I REALLY hope GW's got something special planned for the rest of this release, because right now Sentinel With Defiler Legs 1.0 and Scions w/ Red Jackets really isn't saying "AdMech" to me.

At least, not loudly enough for me to say, "Sure, I'll buy some!"

Looks like we're heading into 'tears in rain' territory here...

...or at least a great opportunity for 3rd party model and bits makers!

**Bishop F Gantry**

Looks like Defilers Pre Chaos-tic surgery.

**Verviedi**

I want to see the rules before I buy anything, but I can see some stuff I can do with those models.
*Adds green stuff, bitz, and cable to shopping list

**migooo**

Alpharius wrote:
So much potential here...

I REALLY hope GW's got something special planned for the rest of this release, because right now Sentinel With Defiler Legs 1.0 and Scions w/ Red Jackets really isn't saying "AdMech" to me.

At least, not loudly enough for me to say, "Sure, I'll buy some!"

Looks like we're heading into 'tears in rain' territory here...

...or at least a great opportunity for 3rd party model and bits makers!

Mine certainly won't be red. They will have some red. Ill probably get enough for a small force . But nothing I've seen so far has put me off.

Unless they have something as stupid as the troope master pose

**ClockworkZion**

Verviedi wrote:
I want to see the rules before I buy anything, but I can see some stuff I can do with those models.
*Adds green stuff, bitz, and cable to shopping list

If you want cables an easy method is to use guitar strings. They tend to work pretty well and aren't that expensive.

**drbored**

Wow. The early description was spot on here, with the visor with the lenses on the side, the little spindly arms up front, the stubber up top, and the walker legs. It's pretty much just how I imagined it.

TBH, I'm reserving judgement till I see the turnaround. With initial reactions like these, people always freak out with negativity at first glance, and then freak out with positivity when it actually releases (or we get rules that are good).

I like the walker decently enough. I LOVE the robed dood. It's exactly what I was hoping for with Admech foot soldiers!

**Kanluwen**

Honestly, I really do not see what the big deal is about the Skitarii Rangers/Vanguards.
Yeah they're guys wearing robes. What did you expect? Huge hulking monstrosities with weapons grafted to them?

Look at the current breakdown of the Skitarii:
Hyspasists
Sagitarii
Balisteria
Cataphractii
Praetorians
Tribunes

What we've seen so far is the Hyspasists, the "basic trooper", and something from the Cataphractii in the form of the walker.

**WrentheFaceless**

Man this thread went negative fast.

They look like i thought admech would

**Ghaz**

ceorron wrote:
On the GW Wakefield facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/GWWakefield?fref=ts

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Enemy sighted, reinforcements inbound. Return: 27th March for further information.Praise the Omnissiah!

Did anyone run the binary through a binary translator? It says the following:

I, for one, welcome our new Martian overlords.

**ClockworkZion**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
Man this thread went negative fast.

That is how the internet do.

**Bull0**

Keeping an open mind until we've seen some more photos seems like the rational thing to do...

**Grimtuff**

Well those are certainly the Adeptus "Meh"chanicus...

**rollawaythestone**

These look great to me. Really liking the look of that infantry. Exactly the image I had in my head.

**ClockworkZion**

Bull0 wrote:
Keeping an open mind until we've seen some more photos seems like the rational thing to do...

Seems like it, but not many seem to be taking that road.

**Warhams-77**

Lords of War Gaming
Admech are right around the corner.
6 · 10. März um 06:36

Gary A.
Photos? Been burned by the rumors too often.
10. März um 06:38

Lords of War Gaming
They are not actually Admech. That codex will release later. The books will be Skatarii and Cult Mechanicus.
2 · 10. März um 07:27

Gary A.
So now three books? The Supplements are coming before the full Codex?
10. März um 07:33

Lords of War Gaming
Supplements, but models as well.
10. März um 08:47

Sam W.
It's been done before. Think Tempestus Scions.
10. März um 14:05

Gary A.
Ah yes, I guess I forgot the Tempestus book came before the IG book. Though I wonder how soon will the Full Codex be released after the two Supplements? I would hope its soon enough to skip the overpriced half codex supplements and just get the full Codex. But knowing GW....
10. März um 14:17

Sam W.
Yeah. Probably gonna have to wait a bit. But at least we can get a preview of how admech will function with these first two.
10. März um 14:37

Link: https://www.facebook.com/Lordsofwargaming

**ClockworkZion**

@Warhams-77 You don't need to keep repeating the same stuff over and over.

**streetsamurai**

Grimtuff wrote:
Well those are certainly the Adeptus "Meh"chanicus...

+1 internet for you sir,

Really eager to see more pic of the infantry. I think they have a lot of potential.

If the rumours about the skitari supllment first, admech later, is true, as some have said, maybe the skitari are more regular looking, while the bat-gak crazy stuff will be saved for the admech. At least, one can hope

**Alpharius**

It is truly a sign of the Endtimes when GW finally manages to get around to releasing AdMech in plastic and F's them up!

**gorgon**

Again, it's like every book-to-film translation ever. It's inevitable that some people are going to end up disappointed.

The 30K Mechanicum are an issue also. People may have expected something more in line with those minis, but 30K Mechanicum <> 40K Adeptus Mechanicus, and I think that the FW crew has said this quite often. But it can still leave people feeling disappointed.

Personally, I *think* the infantry is going to look great once we get some good pics.

**ClockworkZion**

Alpharius wrote:
It is truly a sign of the Endtimes when GW finally manages to get around to releasing AdMech in plastic and F's them up!

Can we save the hyperbole until after we have better pictures and some rules to complain about?

**migooo**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
It is truly a sign of the Endtimes when GW finally manages to get around to releasing AdMech in plastic and F's them up!

Can we save the hyperbole until after we have better pictures and some rules to complain about?

Besides it's not Squats so it's not that worrying.

**Alpharius**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
It is truly a sign of the Endtimes when GW finally manages to get around to releasing AdMech in plastic and F's them up!

Can we save the hyperbole until after we have better pictures and some rules to complain about?

No, especially has there's certainly no reason - or rule - to do so.

And especially as I've seen two of the releases so far and I for one am rather underwhelmed?

You know - the whole different people, different opinions and all that?

**catharsix**

ClockworkZion wrote:
catharsix wrote:
The issues people have with the walker really highlight some of my main complaints with GW. That is to say, it's not awful, and isn't all that bad, imo. But for something that most people can only praise as "good conversion fodder," saying it's disappointing doesn't even fully address the problem. That would be fine if this were going to be reasonably priced. But for the probably obscene price, GW should be delivering an awesome design that requires nothing, no extra effort on the part of the purchaser/player/hobbyist.

-C6
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There is no such model because every player will always have their own mental image of what fits "best" for every faction. Some only take it as far as alternate paint schemes, others go with conversions. That option customization is actually a selling point for 40k, not a detriment.

I think you're missing my point. I am actually a crazy converter, so "good conversion fodder" is great in my book. But for models as expensive as GW's, even the total noob should be able to pick it up and play it as assembled regular, no modifications. If it requires substantial modification to be a good model, it's a terrible value. That's my point.

-C6

**TheCustomLime**

As long as the plastic tech priest/Magos models are good I couldn't care less about the rest of the line.

**ClockworkZion**

catharsix wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
catharsix wrote:
The issues people have with the walker really highlight some of my main complaints with GW. That is to say, it's not awful, and isn't all that bad, imo. But for something that most people can only praise as "good conversion fodder," saying it's disappointing doesn't even fully address the problem. That would be fine if this were going to be reasonably priced. But for the probably obscene price, GW should be delivering an awesome design that requires nothing, no extra effort on the part of the purchaser/player/hobbyist.

-C6
.
There is no such model because every player will always have their own mental image of what fits "best" for every faction. Some only take it as far as alternate paint schemes, others go with conversions. That option customization is actually a selling point for 40k, not a detriment.

I think you're missing my point. I am actually a crazy converter, so "good conversion fodder" is great in my book. But for models as expensive as GW's, even the total noob should be able to pick it up and play it as assembled regular, no modifications. If it requires substantial modification to be a good model, it's a terrible value. That's my point.

-C6

I think you missed mine: the models aren't bad. They're made for a wide range of pallets and do the job fine. If you feel the need to season the dish further though it's made pretty easy.

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
It is truly a sign of the Endtimes when GW finally manages to get around to releasing AdMech in plastic and F's them up!

Can we save the hyperbole until after we have better pictures and some rules to complain about?

No, especially has there's certainly no reason - or rule - to do so.

And especially as I've seen two of the releases so far and I for one am rather underwhelmed?

You know - the whole different people, different opinions and all that?

Unless you have seen more than the rest of us, you've seen a tiny photo of a single trooper from a squad(and apparently one of the two variants that the boxed set can build) and a photo of a walker.
What did you expect for the core troops? Honest question there.

And while certainly the statement of "different opinions and all that" applies, the same can be said of people's expectations regarding what constitutes the Skitarii to begin with.

I will agree that the walker is definitely "meh" but the one Skitarii we've seen looks pretty solid for what it is.

**Fezman**

I don't like the walker much - it looks more Orky than Admech to me, or like a kitbash of spare parts. I do, however, look forward to seeing more infantry and I'll be particularly interested in any character/HQ kits they bring out.

The best thing about Skitarii is that if you don't like the models that come with this release you can always turn to some of the wilder BL depictions for inspiration and massive conversion opportunities.

**catharsix**

Alpharius wrote:
It is truly a sign of the Endtimes when GW finally manages to get around to releasing AdMech in plastic and F's them up!

Oh, Alphy, how little faith you have in GW! Judgement Day need not be imminent for GW to totally screw things up. Remember that last big wave of Dinobots for Chaos? Right after they'd released the totally awesome DV Chaos stuff? We could all list endless examples like this...

-C6

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ClockworkZion wrote:
catharsix wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
catharsix wrote:
The issues people have with the walker really highlight some of my main complaints with GW. That is to say, it's not awful, and isn't all that bad, imo. But for something that most people can only praise as "good conversion fodder," saying it's disappointing doesn't even fully address the problem. That would be fine if this were going to be reasonably priced. But for the probably obscene price, GW should be delivering an awesome design that requires nothing, no extra effort on the part of the purchaser/player/hobbyist.

-C6
.
There is no such model because every player will always have their own mental image of what fits "best" for every faction. Some only take it as far as alternate paint schemes, others go with conversions. That option customization is actually a selling point for 40k, not a detriment.

I think you're missing my point. I am actually a crazy converter, so "good conversion fodder" is great in my book. But for models as expensive as GW's, even the total noob should be able to pick it up and play it as assembled regular, no modifications. If it requires substantial modification to be a good model, it's a terrible value. That's my point.

-C6

I think you missed mine: the models aren't bad. They're made for a wide range of pallets and do the job fine. If you feel the need to season the dish further though it's made pretty easy.

I'm not saying the models are bad - I'm saying they're too expensive, criminally so. If they plan on releaseing "conversion fodder" kits, they can't justify their increasingly boutique prices.

-C6

**BrookM**

Alpharius wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
It is truly a sign of the Endtimes when GW finally manages to get around to releasing AdMech in plastic and F's them up!

Can we save the hyperbole until after we have better pictures and some rules to complain about?

No, especially has there's certainly no reason - or rule - to do so.

And especially as I've seen two of the releases so far and I for one am rather underwhelmed?

You know - the whole different people, different opinions and all that?

We all know the only opinion that truly matters is that of thee, my liege.