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migooo wrote:
Spider Tank
Spider Tank
Everybody loves a Spider Tank
Can it shoot a big huge gun
Yes it can it's a Tank

Spider Tank!

Exalted !!

 Wilson wrote:
I'm still waiting for my biker mice to show up

Yes.
This.

+1

Don't forget the somewhat recognizable music that goes with it

Inquisitor Jex wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

Inquisitor Jex wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Railgun submuntions might have fun with them. It IDs them, so FNP isn't a problem and ignores their armour, so it forces them to resort to the 6++.

Yeah well, that's normal, the Tau got some much cheese in it, the whole of France are at their door recommending wines

Wait, your seriously calling railgun submunitions cheese?

I was referring to the ignore cover rule actually.

I did games facing only SMS shooting in front of me, and it was as fun as letting paint dry and getting hot needles stuck in your eyes.

SMS is 5 5 weapon, with 30". If that is what scares you, then you might want to look at your army.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 RedFox wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
All this stuff is epic, but I have to question GW's sanity/internal logic on one point:

Skitarii Detachment: 2 Compulsory Troops, loads of extra (non-mandatory) slots, super easy to add a small allied group of them.

Harlequins detachment: Loads of Compulsory Slots, leading to a very restricted army for allying in

that's because harlequins will probably soon be an elite choice in the upcoming Eldar codex, but yeah i understand your reasoning

Or not...

Harlequin were dropped from Dark Eldar, remember?

It's still possible that it'll make a little more sense after we get the Eldar Craftworld codex, though.

 Paradigm wrote:

 GorFrag wrote:
Can;t simply ally with no HQ.

You can ally, you just can't use an Allied Detachment. Which is my whole point; to add Skitarii allies to my army, I need as little as 2 5-man infantry units and whatever else I want to add. To add Harlies in a similar way, I need 3 infantry units, jetbikes or skimmers and characters, about 400 points worth of stuff (not even getting into actual monetary cost) just to unlock anything else, or I have to use similarly restrictive formations.

Low codex price, reasonably priced basic infantry, less restrictive requirements for inclusion...it's almost like GW really, really wants people to start this army.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

Inquisitor Jex wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

Inquisitor Jex wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Railgun submuntions might have fun with them. It IDs them, so FNP isn't a problem and ignores their armour, so it forces them to resort to the 6++.

Yeah well, that's normal, the Tau got some much cheese in it, the whole of France are at their door recommending wines

Wait, your seriously calling railgun submunitions cheese?

I was referring to the ignore cover rule actually.

I did games facing only SMS shooting in front of me, and it was as fun as letting paint dry and getting hot needles stuck in your eyes.

SMS is 5 5 weapon, with 30". If that is what scares you, then you might want to look at your army.

I got Guard, so I rely on cover. Any wound is a model off the table. Also, in this case, I was supposed to face off Blood angels and 'Nids, but had to fall back on the Tau and his rather tame and uninteresting one-trick pony list.

Really liking the look of the Onager. Honestly the only thing I don't like about it is the McDonald's paint scheme, but that's easy enough to change. Make the legs silver, the red parts black and white, and I'm in business.

Really impressed by the formation. For those on a budget, that means you could literally buy just one box of Skitarii doods and make your two troop units out of it. Two Vanguard or two Rangers or one of each. Two Vanguard units would be 100 points base, really small tax to bring in those anti-air Onagers if your army needs it.

I'll be using Stormtalons as my anti-air though. My Space Sharks lack anti-tank and anti-heavy infantry, so getting those S10 ap1 blasts are what I'm going to be after. Throw in a few Vanguard squads with Plasma and I'm all set.

 Wilson wrote:
I'm still waiting for my biker mice to show up

Haha nice

Skaven conversions on a bike anyone?

 Thairne wrote:
I'm not sure if that T3 breaks the army though... I hoped the Doctinres would help with that, but nope.
Everything is just so fragile in this codex... anything bigger than a bolter Instakills them...
The onager at least gets a invul save built in.

Fragile, but cheaper than a lot of comparative units. I dig it.

drbored wrote:
Really liking the look of the Onager. Honestly the only thing I don't like about it is the McDonald's paint scheme, but that's easy enough to change. Make the legs silver, the red parts black and white, and I'm in business.

Really impressed by the formation. For those on a budget, that means you could literally buy just one box of Skitarii doods and make your two troop units out of it. Two Vanguard or two Rangers or one of each. Two Vanguard units would be 100 points base, really small tax to bring in those anti-air Onagers if your army needs it.

I'll be using Stormtalons as my anti-air though. My Space Sharks lack anti-tank and anti-heavy infantry, so getting those S10 ap1 blasts are what I'm going to be after. Throw in a few Vanguard squads with Plasma and I'm all set.

I'm excited, but remember. These things are basically dreadnaughts. Dreadnaughts that are even more vunerable in close combat because they lack powerfists.

Dreadnaughts with nicer weapons, but how much nicer.

You can get 2 stalker/hunters for the price of one Onager in AA configuration.

Is anyone else ever so slightly disappointed that they didn't call them 'stalk-tanks'?

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Is anyone else ever so slightly disappointed that they didn't call them 'stalk-tanks'?

Stalk-tanks.

Skanks for short?

 Exergy wrote:

drbored wrote:
Really liking the look of the Onager. Honestly the only thing I don't like about it is the McDonald's paint scheme, but that's easy enough to change. Make the legs silver, the red parts black and white, and I'm in business.

Really impressed by the formation. For those on a budget, that means you could literally buy just one box of Skitarii doods and make your two troop units out of it. Two Vanguard or two Rangers or one of each. Two Vanguard units would be 100 points base, really small tax to bring in those anti-air Onagers if your army needs it.

I'll be using Stormtalons as my anti-air though. My Space Sharks lack anti-tank and anti-heavy infantry, so getting those S10 ap1 blasts are what I'm going to be after. Throw in a few Vanguard squads with Plasma and I'm all set.

I'm excited, but remember. These things are basically dreadnaughts. Dreadnaughts that are even more vunerable in close combat because they lack powerfists.

Dreadnaughts with nicer weapons, but how much nicer.

You can get 2 stalker/hunters for the price of one Onager in AA configuration.

Bolded to attract attention.

The Dreads melee weapons are Strx2 AP2 attacks AND attacks at initiative (I4 in this case)

Dreads are damn mortal in melee, at least in my experience.


EDIT; I reread your post, totally misread what you said, my mistake!

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Thairne wrote:
I'm not sure if that T3 breaks the army though... I hoped the Doctinres would help with that, but nope.
Everything is just so fragile in this codex... anything bigger than a bolter Instakills them...
The onager at least gets a invul save built in.

Fragile, but cheaper than a lot of comparative units. I dig it.

Compare it to Daemons. Daemonettes, Pink Horrors, Bloodletters, Seekers, and some Heralds are all T3, but they're fine. And they're all melee, so they have to run out through the open without cover saves!

Of course, in return they get summoning and lots of Psychic power, but they trade it for all those amazingly fancy guns that the AdMech get.

Probably been stated already, but Codex Skitarii is listed as £20 retail on my preferred seller - if that's true, that's an exciting turn of events. £20 would be my preferred price point for the codex books, so if the smaller supplement-like books are at least going that way that's exciting for me

Requizen wrote:
Flyrants going to be pretty scared of these guys showing up.


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this could spell the end of the 5 flyrant list, give you could get 3 of these anti-air suckers, and the required infantry for about 400 or so points.

Requizen wrote:

Compare it to Daemons. Daemonettes, Pink Horrors, Bloodletters, Seekers, and some Heralds are all T3, but they're fine. And they're all melee, so they have to run out through the open without cover saves!
Of course, in return they get summoning and lots of Psychic power, but they trade it for all those amazingly fancy guns that the AdMech get.

True, I'm mostly worried about the Infiltrators and Ruststalkers. At 30/35pts a model at 4+ with T3 I'm really hesitant to field them.. fortunately, those are my least favoourite models, so I can deal.

BrianDavion wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Flyrants going to be pretty scared of these guys showing up.


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this could spell the end of the 5 flyrant list, give you could get 3 of these anti-air suckers, and the required infantry for about 400 or so points.

I'm scared for my flyrants! already pea'd my pants 2 and a half times just thinking about it.

 Wilson wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Flyrants going to be pretty scared of these guys showing up.


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this could spell the end of the 5 flyrant list, give you could get 3 of these anti-air suckers, and the required infantry for about 400 or so points.

I'm scared for my flyrants! already pea'd my pants 2 and a half times just thinking about it.

Why would you put peas in your pants?

BrianDavion wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Flyrants going to be pretty scared of these guys showing up.


[

this could spell the end of the 5 flyrant list, give you could get 3 of these anti-air suckers, and the required infantry for about 400 or so points.

Not remotely. :-p The base Spider-Tank is 90pts, and the Icarus Array supposedly doubles it.

Super Newb wrote:

 Wilson wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Flyrants going to be pretty scared of these guys showing up.


[

this could spell the end of the 5 flyrant list, give you could get 3 of these anti-air suckers, and the required infantry for about 400 or so points.

I'm scared for my flyrants! already pea'd my pants 2 and a half times just thinking about it.

Why would you put peas in your pants?

because I ran out of pods to put them in, duh.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Flyrants going to be pretty scared of these guys showing up.


[

this could spell the end of the 5 flyrant list, give you could get 3 of these anti-air suckers, and the required infantry for about 400 or so points.

Not remotely. :-p The base Spider-Tank is 90pts, and the Icarus Array supposedly doubles it.

No it's just an extra 45. But yeah it's about 500 pts for 3 of them and two min squads of vangard.

I don't know why, but it bothers me not having a HQ. I love having an awesome HQ leading the army.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

migooo wrote:
Spider Tank
Spider Tank
Everybody loves a Spider Tank
Can it shoot a big huge gun
Yes it can it's a Tank

Spider Tank!

+1

Too bad I can't exalt it more than once.

And I love spider tanks. They're adorable!

Looks like the Magos oils have produced increased serotonin. He requests you name the initial Spider Tank for his forces.


So I take it the Tank is the last thing released for AM in this window?


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 Rippy wrote:
I don't know why, but it bothers me not having a HQ. I love having an awesome HQ leading the army.

Ditto

I'm getting a bit tired of everything in this army getting 1-2 unique rules that do the same or similar to an existing USR.

 Wilson wrote:

Super Newb wrote:

 Wilson wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Flyrants going to be pretty scared of these guys showing up.


[

this could spell the end of the 5 flyrant list, give you could get 3 of these anti-air suckers, and the required infantry for about 400 or so points.

I'm scared for my flyrants! already pea'd my pants 2 and a half times just thinking about it.

Why would you put peas in your pants?

because I ran out of pods to put them in, duh.

Lol!

Speaking of pods, between the BS enhancing doctrines and the relatively cheap troops it seems this little Ad Mech codex could help buff an alpha strike pod list.

5 Vanguard with 2 of those 3 shot plasma guns equals 115 points. Stick that in a pod. 6 plasma shots on the drop at BS 7. Not too shabby.

More than buffing Alpha Pod strikes, I think this might outright retire Melta Dominion Sisters. I have, and know people who take them so often for their devastating anti-vehicle/anti-Imperial Knight, etc...

But the cheap Haywire being rapid-fire... man... Its tough not recommend five guys with 4x haywire shots, in a Pod, for 110pts, especially with them potentially being BS7 for their suicide run.

Oh, and if even one lives, you run his Vanguard ass into combat, debuffing the enemy unit for something else in your list's benefit.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
More than buffing Alpha Pod strikes, I think this might outright retire Melta Dominion Sisters. I have, and know people who take them so often for their devastating anti-vehicle/anti-Imperial Knight, etc...

But the cheap Haywire being rapid-fire... man... Its tough not recommend five guys with 4x haywire shots, in a Pod, for 110pts, especially with them potentially being BS7 for their suicide run.

Oh, and if even one lives, you run his Vanguard ass into combat, debuffing the enemy unit for something else in your list's benefit.

Hmm good point, the haywire might make more sense, those arc rifles are half the cost of the crazy plasma guns.

The 6 plasma shot option is 150 points with the pod.
The 4 (if in rapid fire range) shot haywire option is I believe 120 with the pod.

The base cost for 5 Vanguard is 55 points right?

Yes, and two Haywire guns would add 30pts, so yes... you have the points right.

 Rippy wrote:
I don't know why, but it bothers me not having a HQ. I love having an awesome HQ leading the army.

I do too, but given the way Skitarii was supposed to work I can get behind a lack of a HQ for this army, so long as it's not a sign of things to come. some armies make sense with an HQ (space Marines for example) but some I think almost make more sense WITHOUT a dedicates HQ

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm getting a bit tired of everything in this army getting 1-2 unique rules that do the same or similar to an existing USR.

...such as??

Find me a universal special rule that's remotely similar to Rad-Saturation, Dunestrider, Neurostatic Aura or Doctrina Imperatives.