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 judgedoug wrote:

 RobertsMinis wrote:
Beasts of War have some stuff up about Resin add on for the Terminators.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/river-horse-games/terminator-genisys/sneak-peek-multipart-resin-terminator-prototypes/

And I've nothing to do with BoW. I'm over 50 miles from them.

Well golly look at them green army men quality renders
very soft
most unimpressive

Spoiler:

Too bad the actual miniatures we've seen so far look nothing like that.

That one terminator has a PKE meter!

I was under the impression that this game was a bridging tool between normal folk and war gaming types... so how does having 5 different sort of dice help?!

They seem pretty close.



Just remember that without the aid of a high megapixel camera and a zoom function for your eyes, you really won't make out most of that detail and the models will be tiny IRL.

They just look so stiff and nonthreatening. They sure aren't preparing to mow down any human vermin. They look cheerful, like firefighters showing off their gear to grade schoolers while hitting on all the moms. I've seen Geordie LaForge look more dangerous.


Still, good details, and a little bit of cutting and regluing should help. Necks and knees probably need the most attention.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:


Still, good details, and a little bit of cutting and regluing should help. Necks and knees probably need the most attention.

Which pretty much defeats the inherent purpose of making them monopose two piece snap fits...

Well, two piece snap fits are pretty much the farthest boardgamers are willing to step into the world of tabletop wargaming, right? And I've heard they don't care what their tokens look like so long as they are easy to assemble and get on the board.

I unapologetically look at games from a wargaming perspective as that is my particular overriding interest. If they made sacrifices (both to the license holder and to the board game crowd), a half fix by the end user won't turn those into the dynamic and imposing minis I suspect at least some folks here want. It may help but it's not the same thing as designing them as dynamic wargaming pieces to begin with.

 warboss wrote:
They seem pretty close.



Just remember that without the aid of a high megapixel camera and a zoom function for your eyes, you really won't make out most of that detail and the models will be tiny IRL.

If I remember correctly arnt those the 3ups?

 warboss wrote:
I unapologetically look at games from a wargaming perspective as that is my particular overriding interest. If they made sacrifices (both to the license holder and to the board game crowd), a half fix by the end user won't turn those into the dynamic and imposing minis I suspect at least some folks here want. It may help but it's not the same thing as designing them as dynamic wargaming pieces to begin with.

I suspect nothing will turn them into really dynamic and imposing minis. I'm a bit of a pose queen myself, so I'd have to change them before I was happy, but for the (non-boutique) detail and sticks-to-canon crowds they should be fine. "At least they're Terminator minis...finally...after all these years..."

They look pretty bad, faces are wrong, the proportions as a whole. Like others have said, it's like a cheerful robot. In the original films they work because they are more skeletal and have their movement to convey how un-natural they are. I saw the preorder page for thus game and seriously wonder why a Warlord are even touching this, it looks boring and the starter looks terrible value at £50 given that you can get SDE or Zombicide around that point or a proper wargame starter for another 10-15 like Dark Vengeance, warmachine, dropzone etc

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
proper wargame ... Dark Vengeance

 monders wrote:
... so how does having 5 different sort of dice help?!

D&D, which uses six different dice shapes, manages to be the RPG as far as most people are concerned.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Still, good details, and a little bit of cutting and regluing should help.

Converting plastic minis? Real wargamers will never go for that!!!

 Manchu wrote:

 monders wrote:
... so how does having 5 different sort of dice help?!

D&D, which uses six different dice shapes, manages to be the RPG as far as most people are concerned.

To be honest, I am more interested in this game's sliding dice and Fate mechanic than pretty much any other rules/mechanics else I've heard about in recent memory.

But you're a wargamer, not a normal person.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
They look pretty bad, faces are wrong, the proportions as a whole. Like others have said, it's like a cheerful robot. In the original films they work because they are more skeletal and have their movement to convey how un-natural they are. I saw the preorder page for thus game and seriously wonder why a Warlord are even touching this, it looks boring and the starter looks terrible value at £50 given that you can get SDE or Zombicide around that point or a proper wargame starter for another 10-15 like Dark Vengeance, warmachine, dropzone etc

Miniature wise, I think these look much better than the other terminator proxies on sale at the moment; namely GW Necron Warriors, and the Copplestone Casting terminators.

And here is news for you; skulls do generally look like they are 'grinning'. Look some up on Google, and the T800 for that matter
I've seen the first two Terminator movies far too many times, think these like a pretty good representation for what we are getting here.

From Mr. Cavatore via FB:

I've never understood why it's apparently impossible for human beings to hit the "macro" mode button on their camera. Thanks for the blurry shots, guys.

The 3D renders for the resin Endoskeletons look excellent though.

Still sad about the design changes on the T-800 from T1/T2, but I'll have to live with it.

First of all, that angle makes the one in the middle look a whole lot better. The one on the right still looks disjointed, like he doesn't know what his gun is for, but he can probably be fixed pretty easily. Seeing the actual plastics has given me a little more confidence in the line.

Second, seeing endoskeletons with gun-arms is a huge disappointment. Does this mean Genisys Skynet thinks complicated metal skeletons are the most efficient frontline soldiers, or are easier to mass produce than drones or tankettes? It's a sad departure from the Skynet of the Cameronverse.

Good point about gun hands. OTOH (pun definitely intended), perhaps Skynet is just "working with what it has left" per the Cameronverse except it is equipping last-line T-800s with weapons that are harder for humans to salvage?

I think the more likely explanation is that the writers aren't that intelligent and just went with the Rule of Cool.

That being said, I am happy with plastics, but I am ecstatic about super high quality resin endoskeletons.

 judgedoug wrote:
I think the more likely explanation is that the writers aren't that intelligent and just went with the Rule of Cool.

Well, yeah, that's the obvious explanation in real life. "Writer ignorance" explains pretty much every conundrum in every work of fiction ever. Unfortunately, it makes it difficult to reconcile any new material into the canon without serious loss of value for the series as a whole.

That being said, I am happy with plastics, but I am ecstatic about super high quality resin endoskeletons.

I feel like mass-produced plastics that can be churned out of the factories day and night in their millions capture the essence of Skynet so much more accurately, though.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
I think the more likely explanation is that the writers aren't that intelligent and just went with the Rule of Cool.

Well, yeah, that's the obvious explanation in real life. "Writer ignorance" explains pretty much every conundrum in every work of fiction ever. Unfortunately, it makes it difficult to reconcile any new material into the canon without serious loss of value for the series as a whole.

I've been doing that with Aliens since Alien^3
There's really only two Alien movies anyway. The rest are fanfics that somehow got made.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

That being said, I am happy with plastics, but I am ecstatic about super high quality resin endoskeletons.

I feel like mass-produced plastics that can be churned out of the factories day and night in their millions capture the essence of Skynet so much more accurately, though.

Well, now I just want fully articulated steel endoskeletons in 28mm.

MASSIVE SPOILER

MASSIVE SPOILER BLOCK ALERT: You can read the spoiler on the main page when it's the first line of the text

In any case, if they reveal it in the trailer within the first 30 seconds or so, it's not much of a spoiler.

 warboss wrote:
In any case, if they reveal it in the trailer within the first 30 seconds or so, it's not much of a spoiler.

Since I've been avoiding trailers like the plague that's very helpful to know

I didn't see that coming at all - and they really should have left us all to find out in the actual movie!!!

privateer4hire wrote:
MASSIVE SPOILER BLOCK ALERT: You can read the spoiler on the main page when it's the first line of the text

Oh well, I tried.

Huge spin on the story considering they are shooting for a trilogy

 Alpharius wrote:
I didn't see that coming at all - and they really should have left us all to find out in the actual movie!!!

Like the big T2 reveal when the T800 was the good guy (Was a surprise in 1991!)

 adamsouza wrote:

privateer4hire wrote:
MASSIVE SPOILER BLOCK ALERT: You can read the spoiler on the main page when it's the first line of the text

Oh well, I tried.

Huge spin on the story considering they are shooting for a trilogy

Zero foul called and not your fault. Was kind of surprised the forum block didn't also block it from the front page.