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Aside from them portraying a thief and bully an innocent victim, yet another reason I feel nothing but disgust for these people:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/05/navy-veteran-100-cheered-for-standing-up-to-protesters-at-medal-ceremony/

Did you miss this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/05/blackbrunchnyc-brings-police-brutality-protests-to-white-breakfast-spots/

 cincydooley wrote:
Did you miss this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/05/blackbrunchnyc-brings-police-brutality-protests-to-white-breakfast-spots/

I like this one, just in the look of annoyance on one rich guy's face in one pic.
Upscale in Oakland? Seriously? Whats upscale in Oakland-Taco Bell?

I like the phrase "unarmed black teenager". He was an unarmed black teenager when he was strong arming the store worker, also. Somehow I don't think that gave his victim any comfort.

Wow, The second one is more stupid. Seriously, inconveniencing others who are just having a good time with friends or family.

Relapse wrote:
I like the phrase "unarmed black teenager". He was an unarmed black teenager when he was strong arming the store worker, also. Somehow I don't think that gave his victim any comfort.

When your beating a mans face in, you are unarmed...

 djones520 wrote:

Relapse wrote:
I like the phrase "unarmed black teenager". He was an unarmed black teenager when he was strong arming the store worker, also. Somehow I don't think that gave his victim any comfort.

When your beating a mans face in, you are unarmed...

But in a "gentle giant" kind of way.

Factually he was armed with arms.....

But seriously some of the silliness with protestors make me sad.

It's a good thing Africans don't actually have "bear arms" otherwise the whole defense of the 2nd amendment would be quite interesting.

 Desubot wrote:
Factually he was armed with arms.....

But seriously some of the silliness with protestors make me sad.

Agreed, especially since they would have a valid point that could be respected if they didn't take it so over the top, making it a "Blacks only" kind of situation and state that every black person killed by police was murdered.
One of the best examples I can think of with police that should have been sent away is the Kelly Thomas incident that was recorded in detail from start to finish. He was literally beaten and tasered to death by several officers, all the while gasping he couldn't breath, and in the end, calling for his father before going into a coma that he never woke from. Of course, he was a White homeless person, so his death doesn't mean anything to these people.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, The second one is more stupid. Seriously, inconveniencing others who are just having a good time with friends or family.

Yeah, that's how protesting actual gets people to take action. If an issue never impacts you, why would you ever care enough about it to do anything? Once it starts impacting your life, then you will take action.

Granted, sometimes tha action is counter to what the protesters want, but at least you are now involved with the issue; which is better than apathy.

That's the whole premise of protesting. If a protest doesn't disrupt anyone/anything then that protest is a waste of time.

Why am I getting flashbacks to the occupy wallstreet protestors?

Oh yeah. Same dealio basically.

 Easy E wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, The second one is more stupid. Seriously, inconveniencing others who are just having a good time with friends or family.

Yeah, that's how protesting actual gets people to take action. If an issue never impacts you, why would you ever care enough about it to do anything? Once it starts impacting your life, then you will take action.

Granted, sometimes tha action is counter to what the protesters want, but at least you are now involved with the issue; which is better than apathy.

That's the whole premise of protesting. If a protest doesn't disrupt anyone/anything then that protest is a waste of time.

Being pissed at the protestors won't get any help for your issue though. It's like the guys who were blocking interstates in St. Louis. You think the people stuck on the highway for who knows how long, had anything but anger at the protesters?

 Easy E wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, The second one is more stupid. Seriously, inconveniencing others who are just having a good time with friends or family.

Yeah, that's how protesting actual gets people to take action. If an issue never impacts you, why would you ever care enough about it to do anything? Once it starts impacting your life, then you will take action.

Granted, sometimes tha action is counter to what the protesters want, but at least you are now involved with the issue; which is better than apathy.

That's the whole premise of protesting. If a protest doesn't disrupt anyone/anything then that protest is a waste of time.

Of course, my action would be not to got to restaurants in Oakland. That might not have been the intended effect.

 Easy E wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, The second one is more stupid. Seriously, inconveniencing others who are just having a good time with friends or family.

Yeah, that's how protesting actual gets people to take action. If an issue never impacts you, why would you ever care enough about it to do anything? Once it starts impacting your life, then you will take action.

Granted, sometimes tha action is counter to what the protesters want, but at least you are now involved with the issue; which is better than apathy.

That's the whole premise of protesting. If a protest doesn't disrupt anyone/anything then that protest is a waste of time.

If the protestors were, as I said not so over the top with their claims, they might gain more respect for their stand. As it is, they are mixing too much garbage in with the message and making it exclusively only caring about Black people. Take for instance, the fact they were saying , "every 28 hours". Sorry, but that is a load of crap equivalent to someone one rudely interrupting me to say the Earth is flat:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/12/24/the-viral-claim-that-a-black-person-is-killed-by-police-every-28-hours/

 cincydooley wrote:
Did you miss this one:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/05/blackbrunchnyc-brings-police-brutality-protests-to-white-breakfast-spots/

I gotta say, I'm onboard with anything that annoys New Yorkers.

I take interest if Westboro shows
That be something

 Jihadin wrote:
I take interest if Westboro shows
That be something

Hey, what two groups protest at funerals?

WBC
NYPD

 Easy E wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, The second one is more stupid. Seriously, inconveniencing others who are just having a good time with friends or family.

Yeah, that's how protesting actual gets people to take action. If an issue never impacts you, why would you ever care enough about it to do anything? Once it starts impacting your life, then you will take action.

Granted, sometimes tha action is counter to what the protesters want, but at least you are now involved with the issue; which is better than apathy.


That's the whole premise of protesting. If a protest doesn't disrupt anyone/anything then that protest is a waste of time.

If I'm eating food with my gramps on his birthday, I'm unlikely to think their right. I'm more likely to hate them aand be annoyed.
I also love the line about how people with money and privilege get the leisure of brunch. Well maybe if you worked and went to school, so would you.

So I've been following this issue since it started, and there's a few things that really annoy me. Mainly, why did the protestors try and turn this into a racial issue rather than a simple protest against police brutality? Surely there are more regular instances of people (of any colour) being killed (justifiably or not, that's obviously irrelevant... ) than exclusively black people?

There is a systemic bias against black people. This does not mean that people are actively racist, it seems to mostly be an unconscious bias. That's why these things are causing a stir, because black people are getting sick of having the system be biased against them.

 -Shrike- wrote:
So I've been following this issue since it started, and there's a few things that really annoy me. Mainly, why did the protestors try and turn this into a racial issue rather than a simple protest against police brutality? Surely there are more regular instances of people (of any colour) being killed (justifiably or not, that's obviously irrelevant... ) than exclusively black people?

Because, it's about lashing out in the world and not accepting your own resposibility.

*shakes head and leaves thread*

 Da Boss wrote:
*shakes head and leaves thread*

Hey... I'm living near the epicenter of this "movement". Forgive me if my views are slanted.

 Da Boss wrote:
There is a systemic bias against black people. This does not mean that people are actively racist, it seems to mostly be an unconscious bias. That's why these things are causing a stir, because black people are getting sick of having the system be biased against them.

A: No. They get tons of free iBama phones.
B. No. Because this one time I know a guy who got arrested and he wasn't black.
C. No. I've never been treated unreasonably by the police and this one time I listening to a Kanye West song.
D. Cops never know if somebody might be bristling with weaponry, I mean like chain-guns and laser-rifles hidden all over. So they have to treat everyone like they are.

Ah yeah, I forgot that.

Forgiven, then.

 whembly wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
*shakes head and leaves thread*

Hey... I'm living near the epicenter of this "movement". Forgive me if my views are slanted.

Epicenter...slanted..I see what you did there!

Interesting that in the NY case, the officer in charge was an African American woman.

Is there bias? Of course. Derp! You want to get support though, make it the larger discussion of the police trend to militarization/occupation tactics since the start to the War on Drugs (har har) in the 1980s.

 Chongara wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
There is a systemic bias against black people. This does not mean that people are actively racist, it seems to mostly be an unconscious bias. That's why these things are causing a stir, because black people are getting sick of having the system be biased against them.

A: No. They get tons of free iBama phones.
B. No. Because this one time I know a guy who got arrested and he wasn't black.
C. No. I've never been treated unreasonably by the police and this one time I listening to a Kanye West song.
D. Cops never know if somebody might be bristling with weaponry, I mean like chain-guns and laser-rifles hidden all over. So they have to treat everyone like they are.

In some places, D may not be such an unreasonable assumption...

 -Shrike- wrote:

 Chongara wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
There is a systemic bias against black people. This does not mean that people are actively racist, it seems to mostly be an unconscious bias. That's why these things are causing a stir, because black people are getting sick of having the system be biased against them.

A: No. They get tons of free iBama phones.
B. No. Because this one time I know a guy who got arrested and he wasn't black.
C. No. I've never been treated unreasonably by the police and this one time I listening to a Kanye West song.
D. Cops never know if somebody might be bristling with weaponry, I mean like chain-guns and laser-rifles hidden all over. So they have to treat everyone like they are.

In some places, D may not be such an unreasonable assumption...

It's true. Fiends everywhere trying to kill me for Jet, Vipers lying in gas stations. Frellin Mojave.

 Frazzled wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
*shakes head and leaves thread*

Hey... I'm living near the epicenter of this "movement". Forgive me if my views are slanted.

Epicenter...slanted..I see what you did there!

Interesting that in the NY case, the officer in charge was an African American woman.

Is there bias? Of course. Derp! You want to get support though, make it the larger discussion of the police trend to militarization/occupation tactics since the start to the War on Drugs (har har) in the 1980s.

Why though? I mean, yeah the militarisation thing is an issue, but is a systematic bias(and there is one) against a certain ethnic group that has resulted in several questionably-justified deaths at the hands of police and a near total breakdown of the relationship between the police and that ethnic group somehow not serious enough of an issue on its own? Frankly the whole "it should be about wider issues" argument seems calculated to sweep the racial element of the problem under the rug because it makes too many white Americans uncomfortable; but they SHOULD feel uncomfortable.