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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/15 17:42:38
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Hallowed Canoness
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I love Nevelon's mindset!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/15 19:01:33
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I stopped reading fater seeing the suggestion of giving them bikes.
Biker chick nuns with guns and swords....... Make sure they are choppers. lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/15 19:06:19
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Hallowed Canoness
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Nevelon wrote:Besides the 6++, is there any difference between an immolator and a razorback these days? Besides the TLMM; you can take a HB or HF razor.
Nope, the only difference is the upgrades and the model...
Sigh. Every time I see a new se of rules for it, I think, "Will they have fixed that glaring oversight? It's an Immolator. The whole point of the Immolator is that the turret is at the front so it can have a fire point at the back. In 2e, that was actually noted in the vehicle's fluff."
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/15 20:54:23
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Dakka Veteran
Eastern Washington
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I think thier own special version of a LR would fit in, just ,make it a 0-1 choice to highlight its rarity.
Someone else mentioned a Iknight. I think that could work too. Theyd be the only codex im aware of with an in house Iknight, and thats fluffy unto itself. More to my liking would be either of these solutions in a new codex comprising the Sisters as part of a larger Echlisarchy fighting force. Frat militia, Inquisitors and high ranking clergy with Stormtrooper bodygaurds. This could also open up the idea of sisters in Chimeras, which i think fits them too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/15 21:24:34
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Unit1126PLL wrote:TheCustomLime wrote:No. The Emperor declared that only Astartes may use Land Raiders. His proclamation has not been redacted. If the Sororitas used Land Raiders they'd be flaunting the word of the Emperor.
Unit1126PLL wrote:IIRC There have been repeated mentions in Black Library books of Mechanicus Explorator teams with Land Raider command tanks. In fact, again if memory serves, the Mechanicus contingent with the Imperial Guard in one of the stories in the Planetkill compilation have a Land Raider.
I never said that the Imperium weren't hypocrites.
It seems that when something is too valuable/restricted in use it just means the Imperial Guard can't have it.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/17 22:51:36
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Dakka Veteran
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Well between a vehicle or a flyer, which would be more useful to the sisters ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/17 23:01:13
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Repressor - Assault Variant - nuff said
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/17 23:12:33
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Been Around the Block
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How about an open topped transport? The imperium has very few of those. Maybe the occupants could give up their shooting to PRAISE THE EMPRAH and gain som sort of faith-shield, that'd be pretty sweet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/17 23:21:08
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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kodi wrote:How about an open topped transport? The imperium has very few of those. Maybe the occupants could give up their shooting to PRAISE THE EMPRAH and gain som sort of faith-shield, that'd be pretty sweet.
Well the Stormlord fits that for Sister in a Super Heavy role (holds 40 and 20 can shoot which makes for a hell of an overwatch) but for new vehicles, I don't know. I mean I think it'd be pretty okay but at the same time I think it needs to look as ornate and over the top as possible which lends it's of visually to a sealed transport instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/17 23:23:47
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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ClockworkZion wrote:kodi wrote:How about an open topped transport? The imperium has very few of those. Maybe the occupants could give up their shooting to PRAISE THE EMPRAH and gain som sort of faith-shield, that'd be pretty sweet.
Well the Stormlord fits that for Sister in a Super Heavy role (holds 40 and 20 can shoot which makes for a hell of an overwatch) but for new vehicles, I don't know. I mean I think it'd be pretty okay but at the same time I think it needs to look as ornate and over the top as possible which lends it's of visually to a sealed transport instead.
I dunno could go with almost a cattlepen look to it and make it a DT for repenta's. sort of a "crowd em into a cheap open topped transport and rush em at the enemy"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 17:13:15
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Vaktathi wrote:IIRC there's an ancient decree about Land Raiders being reserved for the Space Marines. The Inquisition can get them because, well, they're the Inquisition. But they also used to be available to common troops of the Imperial Army until too many were destroyed in the Horus Heresy. I don't think the Sororitas in and of themselves would be able to tank up the the point of being able to secure Land Raiders independent of the Inquisition.
Of even more importance, they don't really have many units suited to a Land Raider. LR's really work best for delivering a small-ish, but powerful heavy assault unit to where they need to be, something Sisters lack. I'm not really sure what the overall utility to the army would be. I mean, there's Repentia I guess, but that'd be about it...
Honestly, I'd much rather see a completely new vehicle.
This. Sisters shouldn't have Land Raiders, fluff-wise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 19:55:58
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kadrin wrote:As someone previously stated I think that SoB should be something more than just boob-marine so I would prefer if they had their own vehicle design
But in the end, is that not what they are ? Automatically Appended Next Post: ncshooter426 wrote:The sisters don't maintain their own compliment of LR's due to their detached nature. They are, after all, witch hunters and heresy detectors. They can, however, requisition them directly from the Ordo Malleous - and they've got deep friggin pockets. They can requisition Land Raiders with fun things like Psycannons on them - assuming the proper Inquisition member is in charge of the dedicated transport. So, all the fun bits that the Inquisition has, they have.
Their close ties with the IG (Navy explicitly) gives them access to the Lightning and Avengers (which they love), as well as Valkyries from either the Inquisition or the IG directly. You could even draw the ties to both the IG and OM to requisition a Baneblade. But like I said, they don't usually keep the really expensive things around for daily operations, only calling them in when needed (and bolting on 100000lbs of extra iconography hehe).
The sisters do have a unique variant of the Rhino chassis in both the Immolator and Exorcist line. I'd like to see them have more direct fliers in the future called out in the codex. The lightning could use an upgrade and be part of the actual codex (one can dream...).
Actually, the sisters may be having trouble making a flyer covered in bling that still flies.
"This just in: another prototype adeptus sororitas crashed in the financial district this morning, apparently it had run out of fuel in only seven miles due to the overweight golden organ installed on top."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 20:08:20
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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I just don't see it fitting for the fluff. The land raider is an iconic vehicle for the Space Marines, and in the fluff they are so treasured and difficult to produce, I cannot see any other faction acquiring a supply in large enough numbers to warrant allowing them as a faction option in game. That being said, it might be cool to have a specific canoness, one who had done something truly awesome for a chapter, be able to take one as a dedicated transport. That would be cool and fluffy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 20:16:08
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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morgoth wrote:Kadrin wrote:As someone previously stated I think that SoB should be something more than just boob-marine so I would prefer if they had their own vehicle design
But in the end, is that not what they are ?
Only according to parts of the fandom that ignore all the ways they're different and relate "power armor and bolter" = "Space Marines only" despite the various humans who can have them (like the Inquisition, their Henchmen, the Sisters, and just about anyone if you play the FFG RPGs).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 21:08:02
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Hallowed Canoness
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Oh!
I know!
The Spartan isn't technically a Land Raider, it's a Spartan Assault Vehicle!
They could have those!
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 21:26:57
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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Furyou Miko wrote:Oh! I know! The Spartan isn't technically a Land Raider, it's a Spartan Assault Vehicle! They could have those! They're based off of the LR platform and they're even rarer than the standard frame; I don't see how them not being called land raiders would help increase their availability for other factions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 21:30:44
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Stonebeard wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:Oh!
I know!
The Spartan isn't technically a Land Raider, it's a Spartan Assault Vehicle!
They could have those!
They're based off of the LR platform and they're even rarer than the standard frame. I don't see how them not being called land raiders would help increase their availability for other factions.
Other way 'round, the Spartan is an older and rarer design, the LR is a smaller streamlined vehicle based on it.
That said I'd still prefer giving the Sisters some sort of up-armoured Predator or a Rhino Advancer to giving them Land Raiders.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 21:36:56
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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AnomanderRake wrote: Stonebeard wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:Oh!
I know!
The Spartan isn't technically a Land Raider, it's a Spartan Assault Vehicle!
They could have those!
They're based off of the LR platform and they're even rarer than the standard frame. I don't see how them not being called land raiders would help increase their availability for other factions.
Other way 'round, the Spartan is an older and rarer design, the LR is a smaller streamlined vehicle based on it.
That said I'd still prefer giving the Sisters some sort of up-armoured Predator or a Rhino Advancer to giving them Land Raiders.
You sure? I was under the impression that the Spartan is a modified version of the original LR platform.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 21:45:39
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Hallowed Canoness
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It's a distinct STC these days according to the more recent Forge World fluff.
Back in Rogue Trader, yeah, it was a Land Raider modified to have an Assault Ramp.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 21:55:34
Subject: Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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They don't need it. Give 'em their own vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/18 21:58:33
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle and the Land Raider.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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TheCustomLime wrote:No. The Emperor declared that only Astartes may use Land Raiders. His proclamation has not been redacted. If the Sororitas used Land Raiders they'd be flaunting the word of the Emperor.
So?
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