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 Smacks wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Tsk... British chocolate doesn't even taste like chocolate. Swiss or Belgian chocolate is what you should eat.

Yeah I read that Cadbury's has such a low cacao content that it technically isn't even chocolate. However, Hershey's tastes like somebody left a bar of Cadbury's in the back of the cupboard for about 10 years. Belgian chocs are amazing, but they're a bit too rich to eat by the Kilo, which is what some of us require to maintain 100% blood sugar saturation.

There was a push in the EU by some chocolate makers to have Cadburys blocked from being called and sold as chocolate. However this was purely a marketing thing in an attempt to cut Cadburys dominance.

However, Cadbury do apparently reclaim a lot of the coco used in producing the chocolate and sell it on to other companies.

Colcannon and boiled bacon is a pretty good meal! Especially if it comes with boiled cabbage. The salt from the bacon flavours the cabbage wonderfully. And we've got some great fish dishes that aren't well known outside the country.

We're not the italians or anything, but it's not all terrible!

 Da Boss wrote:
Colcannon and boiled bacon is a pretty good meal! Especially if it comes with boiled cabbage. The salt from the bacon flavours the cabbage wonderfully. And we've got some great fish dishes that aren't well known outside the country.

We're not the italians or anything, but it's not all terrible!

Mmm, cabbage. I'm convinced most of the people who whinge about "flavourless" European food have just burnt out most of their tastebuds with too much spicy stuff, to the point they can't actually taste anything else anymore.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Colcannon and boiled bacon is a pretty good meal! Especially if it comes with boiled cabbage. The salt from the bacon flavours the cabbage wonderfully. And we've got some great fish dishes that aren't well known outside the country.

We're not the italians or anything, but it's not all terrible!

Mmm, cabbage. I'm convinced most of the people who whinge about "flavourless" European food have just burnt out most of their tastebuds with too much spicy stuff, to the point they can't actually taste anything else anymore.

Or it's just people who have truly experienced food from other cultures, and know what flavor really is.

 Da Boss wrote:
Colcannon and boiled bacon is a pretty good meal! Especially if it comes with boiled cabbage. The salt from the bacon flavours the cabbage wonderfully. And we've got some great fish dishes that aren't well known outside the country.

We're not the italians or anything, but it's not all terrible!

Yup, or;
- full Irish breakfast
- boxties
- Irish salmon
- Irish lamb
- mussels and Guinness
- soda bread

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Da krimson barun wrote:
What country is Galaxy from? And Those American monsters don't know what food is.Any country that throws away tea has no sense of taste.

Its a bit rich to rag on American food tastes when its British cuisine that's in our crosshairs.

No way is American food worse than British food, the culinary palate that had to conquer 1/4 of the globe just to get on par with everyone else.

First:Look at the flag.Notice how it is green white and orange and not red white and blue(And only people from Ireland,Canada,Scotland,Australia,New Zealand and some parts of Africa and the middle east are allowed to make jokes about British invasions!) Secondly: Any Country that can leave Hersheys with a seven billion Dollar yearly Profit,produce KFC,Mcdonalds AND as mentioned previously throw away TEA, has no sense of taste.

 Da krimson barun wrote:
First:Look at the flag.Notice how it is green white and orange and not red white and blue(And only people from Ireland,Canada,Scotland,Australia,New Zealand and some parts of Africa and the middle east are allowed to make jokes about British invasions!) Secondly: Any Country that can leave Hersheys with a seven billion Dollar yearly Profit,produce KFC,Mcdonalds AND as mentioned previously throw away TEA, has no sense of taste.

When was that memo sent out?

 Da krimson barun wrote:
Any Country that can leave Hersheys with a seven billion Dollar yearly Profit,produce KFC,Mcdonalds AND as mentioned previously throw away TEA, has no sense of taste.

Sounds about right to me. There are some countries that are renowned for their culinary arts, that might have a right to poke some fun at British food, but America isn't one of them. If you were to take British food, mass produce it using all freeze dried ingredients, add a shed load of salt, colouring, high fructose corn syrup, GM grain, and a couple of FDA approved carcinogens for good measure and "extra-large" it. That's basically what American food is.

 Smacks wrote:

 Da krimson barun wrote:
Any Country that can leave Hersheys with a seven billion Dollar yearly Profit,produce KFC,Mcdonalds AND as mentioned previously throw away TEA, has no sense of taste.

Sounds about right to me. There are some countries that are renowned for their culinary arts, that might have a right to poke some fun at British food, but America isn't one of them. If you were to take British food, mass produce it using all freeze dried ingredients, add a shed load of salt, colouring, high fructose corn syrup, GM grain, and a couple of FDA approved carcinogens for good measure and "extra-large" it. That's basically what American food is.

Awww snap!

Thats really not far from the truth... although worth noting that there is a huge difference between 'traditional American' cuisine and 'new American' cuisine. Difference would be a bit of an understatement actually, as the new American style is more or less a conscious rejection of everything that made traditional American what it is.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Smacks wrote:

 Da krimson barun wrote:
Any Country that can leave Hersheys with a seven billion Dollar yearly Profit,produce KFC,Mcdonalds AND as mentioned previously throw away TEA, has no sense of taste.

Sounds about right to me. There are some countries that are renowned for their culinary arts, that might have a right to poke some fun at British food, but America isn't one of them. If you were to take British food, mass produce it using all freeze dried ingredients, add a shed load of salt, colouring, high fructose corn syrup, GM grain, and a couple of FDA approved carcinogens for good measure and "extra-large" it. That's basically what American food is.

Awww snap!

Or in this case, 'fried'.

 djones520 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Colcannon and boiled bacon is a pretty good meal! Especially if it comes with boiled cabbage. The salt from the bacon flavours the cabbage wonderfully. And we've got some great fish dishes that aren't well known outside the country.

We're not the italians or anything, but it's not all terrible!

Mmm, cabbage. I'm convinced most of the people who whinge about "flavourless" European food have just burnt out most of their tastebuds with too much spicy stuff, to the point they can't actually taste anything else anymore.

Or it's just people who have truly experienced food from other cultures, and know what flavor really is.

Pfff, please, we were experiencing food from other cultures(usually after invading them) before America was a gleam in your Founding Fathers' eyes

Seriously though, there's at least one Indian takeaway in every settlement in the UK with more than six residents, and I can literally walk downstairs from my flat and find Indian takeaway, Chinese takeaway, a Cantonese restaurant, a Vietnamese restaurant, and a pizza place run by your actual grumpy old Italian patriarch(complete with occasional loud shouting matches with the wife & kids). I can order food to my door from all of those plus Polish, Nigerian, Mexican, French(fancy), French(traditional/peasant), American(soul food), American(Cajun), Malaysian, Nepalese, Lebanese, Thai, and Mongolian. And I don't live in the middle of a big city or anything.

This idea that people in the UK just sit around eating nothing but boiled cabbage, boiled salt-pork, potatoes, and mustard while bitching about the French is one of the most tired stereotypes out there.

To be fair, we do bitch about the French...

Bloody French...

The US gets commies, we get the French.

I think you need sone Freedom Fries .

Hershey's objection is not to Engliosh chocolate, but English brands of which Hershey has bought the exclusive US license. This is far more reasonable than first presented.

The answer is to proliferate in the US brands not related to Hershey's.

Thorntons and Green & Blacks is the best choice for importers. Green & Blacks has already been bought out by an American company anyway.

Thorntons manufactures traditional English chocolate with high milk content, Green & Blacks prize themselves on going the other way and maximising cocoa solids, exceeding even the levels found in continental chocolate.

Because of the way the EU thinks there were plans to prevent the UK confectioners from even calling English chocolate chocolate because it doesn't have the same % of cocoa solids as continental chocolate. This one was fought off successfully as there is no single true definition of chocolate and the continental style is therefore not definitive. It was IMHO just a protectionist move by Belgian confectioners.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I think you need sone Freedom Fries .

We just call them by their proper name: chips.

Though 'fries' proliferate as a name in parts of the fast food industry, mainly on the grounds that they are not actually made of potato and are therefore not chips. McDonalds doesn't complain at that as the legislation and its own marketing neatly dovetail.

If in Japan they would start a lawsuit, that i couldn't get my Gouda cheese at costco, that surely mean that i have to contact my contacts in the Dutch government to declare war on Japan, Nothing keeps a Dutchman from his beloved Dutch cheese!

Neither cadbury's or hershey is actually chocolate, ive consumed both

But since i now make my own real animal product free raw chocolate i honestly cant help but laugh at the utter gak people pass off as chocolate.

Even more humorous is when ive gone to those fancy chocolate places and sampled their stuff, still just dairy and sugar loaded crap.

 Orlanth wrote:
Hershey's objection is not to Engliosh chocolate, but English brands of which Hershey has bought the exclusive US license. This is far more reasonable than first presented.

The answer is to proliferate in the US brands not related to Hershey's.

Thorntons and Green & Blacks is the best choice for importers. Green & Blacks has already been bought out by an American company anyway.

Thorntons manufactures traditional English chocolate with high milk content, Green & blacksprice thmselves on gojn g the other way and maximising cooca solids, exceeding even the levls found in continental chocolate.

Because of the way the EE thinks there were plans to prevent the UK confectioners from even calling English chocolate chocolate because it doesn't have the same % of cocoa solids as continental chocolate. This one was fought off successfully as there is no single true definition of chocolate and the continental style is therefore not definitive. It was IMHO just a protectionist move by Belgian confectioners.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I think you need sone Freedom Fries .

We just call them by their proper name: chips.

Though 'fries' proliferate as a name in parts of the fast food industry, mainly on the grounds that they are not actually made of potato and are therefore not chips. McDonalds doesn't complain at that as the legislation and its own marketing neatly dovetail.

Don't go bringing your logic and rational thinking onto dakka - facts and reasoned debate are not welcome! And don't you forget it!

I'm disappointed to hear that those damn Yankees have gotten their hands on Green & Blacks - I love their stuff.

This is pushing me over the edge. I'm toying with the idea of Britain allying with Iran and Putin - somebody has to stand up to the great Satan, they've gone too far this time

You would think that a country that inflicted Wesley Crusher on the world would have died of shame by now



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 mitch_rifle wrote:
Neither cadbury's or hershey is actually chocolate, ive consumed both

But since i now make my own real animal product free raw chocolate i honestly cant help but laugh at the utter gak people pass off as chocolate.

Even more humorous is when ive gone to those fancy chocolate places and sampled their stuff, still just dairy and sugar loaded crap.

Is this hardcore Aussie chocolate made from snake's venom and spider eggs?

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Is this hardcore Aussie chocolate made from snake's venom and spider eggs?

Its animal product free, so I doubt it

Nope it just made out of actual real chocolate

had some of that cadburies junk for Christmas and i felt like round-housing myself for eating such crap for such a long time

 mitch_rifle wrote:
Neither cadbury's or hershey is actually chocolate, ive consumed both

But since i now make my own real animal product free raw chocolate i honestly cant help but laugh at the utter gak people pass off as chocolate.

Even more humorous is when ive gone to those fancy chocolate places and sampled their stuff, still just dairy and sugar loaded crap.

Damned Hippy!

The Queen invented those juicy animals herself just to go in Chocolate!

Back on Topic, in years past I would have happily set fire to a Pitch fork and run naked at the US embassy in protest at such an outrage but alas I now find I am not happy wit Cadbury's.

As part of the Kraft organisation they have changed much in the last year or so. The bars are laughably small, prices increased and the creame egg is not Dairy Milk! You now get about 4 giant buttons in one of those big bags so they have angered the next generation too (I've seen my six year old sharpening legos for the coming ChoccoWar).

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

I'm disappointed to hear that those damn Yankees have gotten their hands on Green & Blacks - I love their stuff.

Shareholders saw the quick profit and sold Cadburys to Kraft in 2010, and the government didnt stop the sale.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

This is pushing me over the edge. I'm toying with the idea of Britain allying with Iran and Putin - somebody has to stand up to the great Satan, they've gone too far this time

....And their 'wiener dogs', their 'world league' and what they call 'football' and that donkey piddle they dare label as "beer".

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

You would think that a country that inflicted Wesley Crusher on the world would have died of shame by now

Will Wheaton is fairly cool, in a contrary nerdy way. But kids on operational warships

 notprop wrote:

 mitch_rifle wrote:
Neither cadbury's or hershey is actually chocolate, ive consumed both

But since i now make my own real animal product free raw chocolate i honestly cant help but laugh at the utter gak people pass off as chocolate.

Even more humorous is when ive gone to those fancy chocolate places and sampled their stuff, still just dairy and sugar loaded crap.

Damned Hippy!

The Queen invented those juicy animals herself just to go in Chocolate!

Back on Topic, in years past I would have happily set fire to a Pitch fork and run naked at the US embassy in protest at such an outrage but alas I now find I am not happy wit Cadbury's.

As part of the Kraft organisation they have changed much in the last year or so. The bars are laughably small, prices increased and the creame egg is not Dairy Milk! You now get about 4 giant buttons in one of those big bags so they have angered the next generation too (I've seen my six year old sharpening legos for the coming ChoccoWar).

One of the main things I'm infuriated by is the fact that multipacks of Dairy Milk bars are now in packs of three instead of four, for no real change in price, and they're never on offer anymore.

 Smacks wrote:

 Da krimson barun wrote:
Any Country that can leave Hersheys with a seven billion Dollar yearly Profit,produce KFC,Mcdonalds AND as mentioned previously throw away TEA, has no sense of taste.

Sounds about right to me. There are some countries that are renowned for their culinary arts, that might have a right to poke some fun at British food, but America isn't one of them. If you were to take British food, mass produce it using all freeze dried ingredients, add a shed load of salt, colouring, high fructose corn syrup, GM grain, and a couple of FDA approved carcinogens for good measure and "extra-large" it. That's basically what American food is.

But much like the story of the two guys in the woods with the bear...we only have to outrun you. And in the court of world opinion, we generally do that.

People mock American food even as they consume it. People mock British food and choose to avoid it.

Only way to get good chocolate will be through us now...

 Avatar 720 wrote:
To be fair, we do bitch about the French...

Bloody French...

The US gets commies, we get the French.

Not so much up here beyond The Wall. Auld Alliance and all that

 mitch_rifle wrote:
Nope it just made out of actual real chocolate

Oh OK, so it's vile bitter stuff that leaves a horrible film in your mouth like the one you get after vomiting. There's a reason the ratio of "crap" to fancy "99.999% cocoa REAL chocolate" on the shelves is about 500:1 - the sugar and milk makes it taste good. Really dark chocolate is only useful for cooking.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh OK, so it's vile bitter stuff that leaves a horrible film in your mouth like the one you get after vomiting. There's a reason the ratio of "crap" to fancy "99.999% cocoa REAL chocolate" on the shelves is about 500:1 - the sugar and milk makes it taste good. Really dark chocolate is only useful for cooking.

It's pretty good in chili, or with coffee also

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Tsk... British chocolate doesn't even taste like chocolate. Swiss or Belgian chocolate is what you should eat.

I bet Russian chocolate is great, right...?


Looks deli... terrifying.

IN Stalinist Russia, Chocolate eats YOU

But agreed, when I think really good Chocolate I think 1) homemade; 2) German or Swiss.


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 Medium of Death wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Da krimson barun wrote:
What country is Galaxy from? And Those American monsters don't know what food is.Any country that throws away tea has no sense of taste.

Its a bit rich to rag on American food tastes when its British cuisine that's in our crosshairs.

No way is American food worse than British food, the culinary palate that had to conquer 1/4 of the globe just to get on par with everyone else.

What's wrong with British food exactly?

I've heard it stated a lot but haven't been given anything solid to go on?

It tastes like wet nothing.


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 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
You know, I've never had a Toblerone.

You're truly missing out... just like our non-American friends missing out on Girl Scout Thin Mints.

Mmmm Caramels -already on order!

I've been meaning to ask, but that picture of a Russian baby: is that the young Putin?


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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh OK, so it's vile bitter stuff that leaves a horrible film in your mouth like the one you get after vomiting. There's a reason the ratio of "crap" to fancy "99.999% cocoa REAL chocolate" on the shelves is about 500:1 - the sugar and milk makes it taste good. Really dark chocolate is only useful for cooking.

It's pretty good in chili, or with coffee also

Chocolate in coffee? It'll never catch on.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I've been meaning to ask, but that picture of a Russian baby: is that the young Putin?


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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh OK, so it's vile bitter stuff that leaves a horrible film in your mouth like the one you get after vomiting. There's a reason the ratio of "crap" to fancy "99.999% cocoa REAL chocolate" on the shelves is about 500:1 - the sugar and milk makes it taste good. Really dark chocolate is only useful for cooking.

It's pretty good in chili, or with coffee also

Chocolate in coffee? It'll never catch on.

Good thing I said "with coffee", and not in coffee then