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One problem is, Reed Richards is pretty unrelateable.
Let me qualify that: Reed was very relateable for geeky boys reading comics hanging onto that old chestnut about the jocks (Johnny, Ben) working for them one day and the girl next door (Sue) seeing them for the noble genius they really are. But the moviegoing audience is not as sympathetic to that sort of line.
Ultimate FF is an attempt to help in that regard - but yeah, he's still 'the smartest guy in the room' - maybe he'll be an all around good/nice guy too?
ULTIMATE Reed goes off the rails pretty hard eventually though - horribly so too.
I don't imagine that they'll ever get there or really even go there if they make another 1 or 2 FF movies with this cast though.
I'd be more interested in a proper Galactus/Silver Surfer movie - but FF2 already hosed us in that regard, probably.
Seems all the earlier stuff about Doom being a hacker or somesuch .... fret not
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
-Loki- wrote: Have to disagree with what you said about Origins and X3.
Iron Man 2 and 3 have their problems, no doubt. But I was literally cringing in parts of X3 and Origins due to how bad they were.
Disagree with your disagreement. X-3 was perfectly watchable. I almost didn't finish IM-2. I started watching IM-3 on an 8 hour flight with garbage options. Did. not finish.
And I loved IM 1 and Tony Stark is my favorite guy on screen in Avengers.
Techno-organic Doom is still fail. With all the Alexandre Dumas literary references available, why don't they just incorporate that into Doom's background instead?
Each time I see new stuff about this film I can't help but wonder how much better things would be if the Fantastic Four were still with Marvel. I don't give a damn about the Fantastic Four themselves (other than the Human Torch's power set is amazingly awesome), but the stuff that comes with the FF (Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer, etc.) would be a real boon to later 'Phases' of the MCU.
WrentheFaceless wrote: Still crossing my fingers this does so bad that Fox actually sells it back to Marvel
Wha...?!?
What's with the schadenfreude?!?
I love the Fantastic Four - so how about we compromise?
How about the movie be really good, but for some reason it doesn't make a lot of money?
That way it still goes back to Marvel, and Namor, Galactus, the Silver Surfer, the Negative Zone, etc. can end up in the same universe as the Avengers, etc. - and I still get to enjoy a good movie!
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Actually...doesn't some OTHER studio own Namor?!?
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WrentheFaceless wrote: Still crossing my fingers this does so bad that Fox actually sells it back to Marvel
Wha...?!?
What's with the schadenfreude?!?
I love the Fantastic Four - so how about we compromise?
How about the movie be really good, but for some reason it doesn't make a lot of money?
That way it still goes back to Marvel, and Namor, Galactus, the Silver Surfer, the Negative Zone, etc. can end up in the same universe as the Avengers, etc. - and I still get to enjoy a good movie!
Automatically Appended Next Post: (EDIT!)
Actually...doesn't some OTHER studio own Namor?!?
I'm meh about the FF itself, more wanting its supporting cast to go to Marvel (Doom, Galactus, Surfer etc)
Though I think thus far after now 3 movies, Fox has proven they cant make a FF movie, which is why I would think you would hope as well that it does poorly enough for marvel to get the rights back and do them right.
Paradigm wrote: Saying that though, Quicksilver has been in the X-men series AND now the Avengers series of movies.. So technically they could use Doom in the Avenger-verse too.
My dream superhero movie is a Heroes For Hire film, which is set in the 1970's, and the pre-credits bit is Dr Doom in his sinister fortress, hard at work on some devious and pointlessly complicated apocalyptic scheme....and then Luke Cage kicks in Doom's front door and demands his two hundred bucks.
"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich."
Namor's rights are a little more complicated than just being owned by someone else. It's a bit like a standalone Hulk film. Can Marvel make one? Yes. But will they? No, because Disney wouldn't be distributing it. Universal would be, and Disney wouldn't allow that.
and supposedly Marvel/Disney cannot use that term at all in their movies.
One supposes they could fix that easily enough -- like they did with 'silver and Witch -- of course.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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