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Galactus's silhouette shows up in the cloud when it passes Saturn too. But, I think Fox decided their take on a big planet eating god in pink and purple would have looked hokey and campy, and chose the alternate version that was still comic accurate. Otherwise you might have gotten the Tick version of Galactus. Which was just silly. So, I think you got the Ultimate cloud form to avoid looking pants on head. Not everything can translate well from comic to screen. I'm sure they CGI tested both ways and went with the more mature looking option. Yes, I'm currently defending the studio that gave us X3 and Wolverine Origins. But I understand why they went cloud form.
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timetowaste85 wrote: Galactus's silhouette shows up in the cloud when it passes Saturn too. But, I think Fox decided their take on a big planet eating god in pink and purple would have looked hokey and campy, and chose the alternate version that was still comic accurate. Otherwise you might have gotten the Tick version of Galactus. Which was just silly. So, I think you got the Ultimate cloud form to avoid looking pants on head. Not everything can translate well from comic to screen. I'm sure they CGI tested both ways and went with the more mature looking option. Yes, I'm currently defending the studio that gave us X3 and Wolverine Origins. But I understand why they went cloud form.
Exactly. Though Tick version of Galactus was pretty awesome in its own way too....
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Don't get mad at me. I'm not the one making lousy movies of your favorite super group.
I think the real question is, could 8 geeks with $5,000 have made a better movie?
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I really think that, done right, you can have a humanoid the size of a planet attack a planet in a movie. Behold! Unicron!
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From the gloriously 80s Transformers movie.
Show Galactus flipping islands like pancakes, and causing tidal waves by his presence.
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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Charles Rampant wrote: I saw this last night. I posted my thoughts on Facebook immediately after getting home, which ran as follows:
"Fantastic Four is a most odd movie. It wasn't bad; it didn't insult me with its stupid writing. The main characters were well written and acted. It just wasn't a complete movie. They forgot to add the third act, where, you know, stuff happens that makes you feel excited. The feeling that I had upon leaving the movie theatre was a kind of dull surprise, a boredom that wasn't quite acute enough to turn into anger. For a movie with four superheroes in it, it seemed determined to avoid exciting action sequences and instead pretend to be some kind of science fiction horror effort, but without any real scares. The main bad guy has about five minutes of screen time, and that consists of two conversations and a single fight scene with the heroes, to whom he barely spoke. But this movie had enough well acted and entertaining moments to hold my early interest... until slowly I realised that there was no actual plot, just a bunch of well-acted scenes playing out until an abrupt ending.
Very odd. Most confusing film I've seen for a while. It kind of reminds me of an episode of Star Trek."
This is very similar to my experience seeing the movie. I took my brother, who is 11, and even he came out of the movie a little bored and confused.
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I wouldn't have seen this in theaters, except the wife really, REALLY wanted to see a movie, and Ant Man didn't have a show time we could go to and still make day care pick up times.
Anyhow... I personally think it was better than the Alba movies, but that's not really saying much. There are thematic and plot elements that I would have done much, much more different from the way they did.
Best part of the movie, at least for me, was that there was an Ep. 7 trailer, and the Deadpool "green band" trailer played
I'm disappointed by all of you who saw this in theaters and let Fox think this movie might be worthy of a sequel. You need to self flagellate yourselves for a week or two.
Also, the viewers have torn it apart too. It got a 30% from audiences. That's really bad. The audience is usually much nicer than the critics.
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timetowaste85 wrote: I'm disappointed by all of you who saw this in theaters and let Fox think this movie might be worthy of a sequel. You need to self flagellate yourselves for a week or two.
I think the thing is.... for all the negative press it's gotten, and how "spoiled" we've all become with MCU movies being so awesome, yeah, it makes sense to hate on this.
The biggest sticking points, pre-release were having a black johnny storm.... After watching the movie, while it may not fit the best with the original, outdated, source materials, they actually made him work pretty damn well in this movie.
It isn't really a bad movie per se, but it definitely isn't a good/great movie. It is, IMHO, decidedly mediocre.
Honestly I wouldn't mind it if Fox attempted to make a sequel, as long as they realise what they did wrong (introducing and killing the villain way too quickly, 0 action for most the movie, too much time spent on the characters doing nothing at all) and fix it.
F4 showed promise, it just lacked all the action one expects from a superhero movie.
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timetowaste85 wrote: I'm disappointed by all of you who saw this in theaters and let Fox think this movie might be worthy of a sequel. You need to self flagellate yourselves for a week or two.
The biggest sticking points, pre-release were having a black johnny storm.... After watching the movie, while it may not fit the best with the original, outdated, source materials, they actually made him work pretty damn well in this movie.
The audience reviews suggested there was no familial chemistry between Sue and Johnny. Reports that they did not work as brother and sister. I hate to belabor a point, but...I told you guys it was a terrible idea. And according to audience review at least, I was right.
Oh, remember when I suggested any of the other three males being black instead of Johnny? And everyone said "it can't be the Thing, it would be calling all black people monsters" and "it can't be Doom, because that'll be saying black people are evil!" Well...let's not forget that nobody batted an eye when Kingpin was portrayed by a black guy. One of the awesomest guys to ever grace Hollywood, Michael Clark Duncan. So that argument should have been stuffed where the sun don't shine. And Thing/Ben Grimm is the soul of the team. Johnny may be fun, and Reed and Sue are the main protagonists, but Thing is the most human and important member on the team. I find it hard to believe in 2015 we're worried about offending an entire ethnicity by giving a movie role to someone where they can fit properly, not by shoehorning someone into a role that makes no sense.
Anyway, I'll let that go, at this point. The reviews are in, and it seems enough people agree with my assessment to suggest the idiot director screwed up. There is no sense of family, no sense of bonding, and a black dude was put in a role "just because we need a black guy".
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Matt.Kingsley wrote: Honestly I wouldn't mind it if Fox attempted to make a sequel, as long as they realise what they did wrong (introducing and killing the villain way too quickly, 0 action for most the movie, too much time spent on the characters doing nothing at all) and fix it.
F4 showed promise, it just lacked all the action one expects from a superhero movie.
I agree:
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While it is entirely possible that Doom somehow didn't die, despite all onscreen cues that he did... I agree that it's way too fast for what is ultimately, the FF's version of the Joker. Doom is literally the MOST iconic villain that they have, maybe the most iconic of nearly all Marvel IPs, I dunno.
I think that if they had, instead used the douchey "corporate" guy as the main badguy things could have worked much better... End of movie 1, the Corporate suit is killed/destroyed/in jail, but in the process, the heroes (including Doom) accidentally destroy the shuttle. Movie 2, at the beginning of the movie, there's some big tiff, and Doom and the gang have a falling out, the Fantastics become the Fantastic Four that we know, Doom takes over some eastern European country, and calls it Latveria, but in reality he is attempting to rebuild a shuttle by himself., cliffhanger ending. Movie 3, the fantastic four spend most of the movie hopelessly lost, until Reed gives his famous "none of us can defeat him by ourselves, but together we're all stronger than he is" speech, and Doom dies. Or perhaps the big fight is interrupted by a super fast silvery dude that is riding what appears to be a surf board.
timetowaste85 wrote: I'm disappointed by all of you who saw this in theaters and let Fox think this movie might be worthy of a sequel. You need to self flagellate yourselves for a week or two.
I think the thing is.... for all the negative press it's gotten, and how "spoiled" we've all become with MCU movies being so awesome, yeah, it makes sense to hate on this.
The biggest sticking points, pre-release were having a black johnny storm.... After watching the movie, while it may not fit the best with the original, outdated, source materials, they actually made him work pretty damn well in this movie.
It isn't really a bad movie per se, but it definitely isn't a good/great movie. It is, IMHO, decidedly mediocre.
I thought it was bat man and robin bad. Infact this movie tried to be too serious and It lost me half the time. Man this movie wasn't that good.
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timetowaste85 wrote: I'm disappointed by all of you who saw this in theaters and let Fox think this movie might be worthy of a sequel. You need to self flagellate yourselves for a week or two.
The biggest sticking points, pre-release were having a black johnny storm.... After watching the movie, while it may not fit the best with the original, outdated, source materials, they actually made him work pretty damn well in this movie.
The audience reviews suggested there was no familial chemistry between Sue and Johnny. Reports that they did not work as brother and sister. I hate to belabor a point, but...I told you guys it was a terrible idea. And according to audience review at least, I was right.
Oh, remember when I suggested any of the other three males being black instead of Johnny? And everyone said "it can't be the Thing, it would be calling all black people monsters" and "it can't be Doom, because that'll be saying black people are evil!" Well...let's not forget that nobody batted an eye when Kingpin was portrayed by a black guy. One of the awesomest guys to ever grace Hollywood, Michael Clark Duncan. So that argument should have been stuffed where the sun don't shine. And Thing/Ben Grimm is the soul of the team. Johnny may be fun, and Reed and Sue are the main protagonists, but Thing is the most human and important member on the team. I find it hard to believe in 2015 we're worried about offending an entire ethnicity by giving a movie role to someone where they can fit properly, not by shoehorning someone into a role that makes no sense.
Anyway, I'll let that go, at this point. The reviews are in, and it seems enough people agree with my assessment to suggest the idiot director screwed up. There is no sense of family, no sense of bonding, and a black dude was put in a role "just because we need a black guy".
The whole Johnny Storm thing has really brought out the worst in a lot of interest commentators. As someone in a mixed race marriage, I found it all quite disappointing.
I would say that the Storm siblings never had chemistry because they never had any actual scenes together. Really, an enormous amount of this film was people looking at computer screens and walking around a lab. Kate Mara was criminally underused; not only did the film fail the Beschdale test, it also contrived to leave her character behind when they all went to another dimension, and made sure to use her as an object of desire for Reed Richards and Victor von Doom to fight over. (A love triangle that, perhaps mercifully, the film didn't bother developing.) She basically served as a token women for dialogue scenes, and with superpowers as a taxi for the rest of the cast. So yeah, the siblings might not have looked like they had a brother and sister relationship, but that is more to do with the choices of scenes than with anything to do with the actors and their chemistry.
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What was up with the whole Reed Richards runs away thing, anyway? It didn't advance the plot any; it didn't give any more depth to the characters than the original accident did. The chekov's shuttle that Richards was building got resolutely left on the wall. Did that somehow tie into a missing third act element where they use that to get to the other world and fight Doom? I just don't understand.
My current theory is that they didn't actually finish making the film. They got halfway through and went, "Shall we go for lunch?" And then they forgot to come back and finish filming. Jokes aside, they actually did reshoots after main filming wrapped; how bad did it look before they did that?!
I'm most sad that Dr Doom has been messed up again considering he's one of my favourite comic book characters
I do wonder if there's going to be loads more scene on the blue ray which got dropped for theatrical release to cut it down to it's current length, and they decided to drop the plot rather than the origin stuff?
When I checked Rotten Tomatoes before, I forgot to rank it against Ghost Rider 1&2. Both of those were rated higher. This is officially the worst rated Marvel themed comic book movie made. If you gave money to it, may God have mercy upon your soul. I honestly feel Josh Trank should be held on charges for attempted murder: he has actively tried to kill the marvel cinematic universe.
I don't even feel that counts as an opinion. Pretty sure it's actually a fact at this point. I hope the cast has the decency to be embarrassed at the absolute steaming pile they helped create in order to keep the rights away from Marvel. They should all make a public apology and refuse to return for a sequel, if such trash is permitted to come to fruition.
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timetowaste85 wrote: he has actively tried to kill the marvel cinematic universe.
Nah. Unless there's some dramatic turnaround on the profit front for this film (unlikely!), he just handed the MCU rights to Doom, Galactus, Annihilus, the Silver Surfer... Oh, and the F4, but really the villains are the main asset to Marvel. They need someone to top Thanos in Phase 4+, and if they get the F4 rights back that opens up all the above. Throw in Osborn from the Spidey licence and Magneto remains the only A-list villain the MCU can't use!
I don't even feel that counts as an opinion. Pretty sure it's actually a fact at this point. I hope the cast has the decency to be embarrassed at the absolute steaming pile they helped create in order to keep the rights away from Marvel. They should all make a public apology and refuse to return for a sequel, if such trash is permitted to come to fruition.
The same cast that, until the premier, hadn't actually seen a finished cut of the film? They all seemed rather unenthusiastic in an interview I saw the other day, I'm not sure they really realised/cared/knew just how bad this would turn out to be.
Interestingly, the director tweeted (and then deleted) something of an 'apology' earlier. I can't recall the exact wording, but it was something about how this version of the film was actually not one he liked, and that a few months ago (before reshoots?) he actually had a version that he considered much better... Make of that what you will...
I also read he got kicked off set and other people finished slapping the film together because he(Trank) is such an asshat. Glad he got booted from Star Wars.
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