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 Sigvatr wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:


I don't understand the latter. Can you please expand?

It's the same thing that happens with e.g. immigration. If you say anything against immigration, you're a nazi, if you say anything against same-sex marriage, you're a bigot.

Being against gay marriage does not make you a bigot by default. When you quote bigots and their arguments, you come across as a bigot.

sirlynchmob wrote:


Being against gay marriage does not make you a bigot by default. When you quote bigots and their arguments, you come across as a bigot.

Precisely. The problem, as with everything, lies in a highly sensitive and extremely emotional topic with most people on both sides being unable to properly talk about said issue.

 Sigvatr wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


Being against gay marriage does not make you a bigot by default. When you quote bigots and their arguments, you come across as a bigot.

Precisely. The problem, as with everything, lies in a highly sensitive and extremely emotional topic with most people on both sides being unable to properly talk about said issue.

But everyone here has said something without being offensive. I think refusing to talk about a topic is worse than people getting upset or or offended.

 Matthew wrote:
Might be a bit of a sensitive spot for some, but I just want to know what you guys think of gay mariiage? I personally think that it's completely fine, and no book or law can prevent me from thinking that.

No thanks, I'm already married.


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 Breotan wrote:
Why do you insist on starting flame bait threads like this?

Its not flame bait if people act like adults.


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 jreilly89 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Can we please lock this immediately?

Homophobes hate on homosexuals who want to marry, heterophobes hate on heterosexuals who dare speak up against homosexual marriage or, rather, the privileges marriage grants.

I don't understand the latter. Can you please expand?

He's saying there's haters on both sides. TBone says everyone stay calm and kill zombies!

No issues with it. Live and let live and all that.

Don't care either way. Marriage control...gun control...people need to stop telling other people what they're "allowed" to do.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Don't care either way. Marriage control...gun control...people need to stop telling other people what they're "allowed" to do.

Preach it brother!.

As long as they are loyal to the emperor and suffer not the heritic or xenos scum I see no problem....

(see what I did there? can't believe in 2015 we are even still talking about this. Live and let live except for little plastic warriors on big tables with dice)

 jreilly89 wrote:

But everyone here has said something without being offensive. I think refusing to talk about a topic is worse than people getting upset or or offended.

This isn't meant to be offensive, but you maybe haven't spent enough time on Dakka. Pretty much every topic about it ends up being a massive flamefest.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Believe it or not, it's not just a piece of paper. There's unfortunately a lot of rights and benefits that go along with being married.

Aye, this. Imagine Bob and Jim having lived together for 10+ years, and yet when one of them gets badly injured in some accident and decisions are needed his partner is bypassed for his parents or a sibling. I don't care if it's called marriage, but IMO it would be fair these two had the option of listing the other as "closest kin" for this sort of thing.

If gay people want to be miserable too then let them. No sense in reserving the suffering for the heterosexuals.

Can we retire the "If they want the right to be miserable and loose half their stuff" jokes, they are kinda old now

 TheCustomLime wrote:
If gay people want to be miserable too then let them. No sense in reserving the suffering for the heterosexuals.

"Marriage has three rings. Engagement ring, wedding ring, and the suffering"

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Can we retire the "If they want the right to be miserable and loose half their stuff" jokes, they are kinda old now

I apologize. I just have a really dim view on the institution of marriage as a whole.

 Chongara wrote:
I live in Massachusetts.

*highfives fellow Mass Hole ! *


I love our People's Democratic Republic of Massachusetts. Wouldn't trade living here for anywhere other than may be hawaii for the weather.


Also Gay Marriage: Still have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why they shouldn't be allowed to be as equally miserable as us straight folk.

Just kidding, I 100% support gay marriage.


I agree with Marv335. 20-30 years from now people are going to look at same-sex marriage prohibition with the same bewilderment as segregation. Just me.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Can we retire the "If they want the right to be miserable and loose half their stuff" jokes, they are kinda old now

Get married and get back to us on this one, boss. If you still agree after being married for 3-5 years, let us know.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Can we retire the "If they want the right to be miserable and loose half their stuff" jokes, they are kinda old now

I apologize. I just have a really dim view on the institution of marriage as a whole.

Its not that ,but anytime anyone make something about Gay Marriage, this joke pops up

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Can we retire the "If they want the right to be miserable and loose half their stuff" jokes, they are kinda old now

I apologize. I just have a really dim view on the institution of marriage as a whole.

Its not that ,but anytime anyone make something about Gay Marriage, this joke pops up

Fair.


Recognize that it's an attempt to inject humor and diffuse an otherwise powderkeg of a topic. There's very little lukewarm opinion on this topic. It's usually nuclearly for, or against.

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Do we really need all these "hey guys, how do you feel about these highly divisive topics that always cause heated flame wars" threads when they are literally only one click away?

 d-usa wrote:
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Do we really need all these "hey guys, how do you feel about these highly divisive topics that always cause heated flame wars" threads when they are literally only one click away?

You're right. Quick, take these down, we need to conserve the megabytes!!

 Haight wrote:

I agree with Marv335. 20-30 years from now people are going to look at same-sex marriage prohibition with the same bewilderment as segregation.

I don't think so. The difference between segregation and gay marriage prohibition is that segregation only occurred in the US (and South Africa) whereas gay marriage is forbidden in the large majority of nations worldwide. While this may change in some liberal Western nations, there are many highly conservative nations where gay marriage will likely still be outlawed in 30 years.

I'm pro marriage in all forms, two people love each other regardless of gender or orientation its nice to see them declare that to the world. As for debating whether the term marriage is right? There is no difference to me between a man/woman getting married or two men, both are in love, declaring that and binding themselves to each other. Its nice, its a commitment.

I'm for gay marriage personally. I grew up in Woodstock, NY, so I never thought about something like that being something people would have to campaign for, gay people were, and are, just people to me. I have heard not compelling argument against it as well. The most I have heard is that it makes people uncomfortable.

Marriage is a wonderful institution, and I wish to keep no one from it. It is more than just the legal business, but it is formally and publicly pledging yourself to someone very dear to you.

Could care less. Unless same sex couples get "special" benefits or advantages over traditional married couple. Then I would be against it.

 Jihadin wrote:
Could care less. Unless same sex couples get "special" benefits or advantages over traditional married couple. Then I would be against it.

Couldn't care less.
Saying "Could care less" means that you actually do care.

On topic, I live in the South, and generally don't care about this.
Northerners can stay in their little blue bubble.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Haight wrote:

I agree with Marv335. 20-30 years from now people are going to look at same-sex marriage prohibition with the same bewilderment as segregation.

I don't think so. The difference between segregation and gay marriage prohibition is that segregation only occurred in the US (and South Africa) whereas gay marriage is forbidden in the large majority of nations worldwide. While this may change in some liberal Western nations, there are many highly conservative nations where gay marriage will likely still be outlawed in 30 years.

Indeed there are places where legal discrimination against homosexuals is gaining ground, e.g. Zimbabwe and Russia.

There are also plenty of places where racial genocide is still taking place. Does that mean that people in the US don't look back at the arguments about racial segregation and wonder what the hell people were thinking?

 Breotan wrote:
Why do you insist on starting flame bait threads like this?

Actually considering how conservative a lot of the OT is, I'm always quite impressed by the generally liberal attitude towards gay marriage and also transsexualism. Perhaps it's just because it's PC, but I rarely see anyone on here speak out against those things.

If you really want to bait OT, just mention how guns need to be banned. *hides*

 Smacks wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Why do you insist on starting flame bait threads like this?

Actually considering how conservative a lot of the OT is, I'm always quite impressed by the generally liberal attitude towards gay marriage and also transsexualism. Perhaps it's just because it's PC, but I rarely see anyone on here speak out against those things.

If you really want to bait OT, just mention how guns need to be banned. *hides*

Or those damn evil cops always killing innocent people.

Wow, I started this because I wanted to know how people felt.

YOU RUINED IT

Honestly, I'm surprised how well this thread is going. I think it's partly to do to the fact that dakka is mostly composed of "younger" people, who are usually more open to the idea in general.