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In 1850 points, battleforged, no standalone LotD or similar autolose armies? Allies permitted.

And what if you are not permitted more than two of any unit?

Fifty-four naked Tyranid Warriors and two Primes (actually 1870 so you might have to do 53 Warriors, two Primes, and ten points of wargear). No shooting above S4, you can get to S5 in melee, everything is T4/4+ infantry except your HQs which are T5/3+, the threat on all your stuff is incredibly short.

Tyranids:
Take Old One Eye or Deathleaper as your HQ and spend the rest of your points on units with Instinctive Behavior (Feed). Preferably load up on expensive but questionably useful biomorphs and try not to take anything that can hurt vehicles. You'll lose about an eighth of your army each turn to cannibalism and it'll generally be difficult to coordinate your attacks.

Any CSM army...

Farsight Tau win this easily. I'm too lazy to go back and calculate it again, but you can make an army of nothing but crisis suits with no weapons (redundant shield generators on every upgrade slot to maximize the points wasted). And because they're so expensive thanks to all the wasted points you don't even get enough of them to compensate for your lack of shooting and poor melee stats with overwhelming numbers.

 Raxmei wrote:
Tyranids:
Take Old One Eye or Deathleaper as your HQ and spend the rest of your points on units with Instinctive Behavior (Feed). Preferably load up on expensive but questionably useful biomorphs and try not to take anything that can hurt vehicles. You'll lose about an eighth of your army each turn to cannibalism and it'll generally be difficult to coordinate your attacks.

Yup I'd have to say this might nail it while keeping with the no more than 2 of any unit idea.

Hive Fleet Detachment
Deathleaper 130

30x Hormagaunts w/ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs 300
30x Hormagaunts w/ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs 300
5x Genestealers 70

3x Pyrovores 120
3x Pyrovores 120

9x Raveners w/ Rending Claws, Deathspitters 405
9x Raveners w/ Rending Claws, Deathspitters 405
30x Gargoyles w/ Toxin Sacs 240

Absolutely no synapse what so ever so Hormagaunts, Pyrovores and Raveners likely to eat themselves and do nothing. Gargoyles most likely to go to ground, Deathleaper does nothing to help the situation and gives you a useless Warlord Trait, Genestealers give easy first blood.

Imperial Guard 1850

HQ:
Company Command Squad: 325 pts
+Kurov's Aquila
+The Blade of Conquest
+Plasma Pistol
+4x Grenade Launchers
+Nork Deddog
+Taurox
+Astropath
+Officer of the Fleet
+Master of Ordnance

Commissar Yarrick: 145

Troops:
PCS 80 pts
+Taurox
PIS 100
+Taurox
PIS 100

Veterans: 100 pts
+Power Fist
+Shotguns
+Carapace Armor

Elites:
Ratlings: 100 pts
+7x Ratlings
Ratlings: 100 pts
+7x Ratlings

Bullgryns: 470
+7x Bullgryns
+7x Power Maul&Brute Shield

Fast Attack

Rough Riders: 139 pts
+5x Rough Riders
+Power Weapon
+Plasma Pistol
+Melta Bombs
+2x Sniper Rifles

Rough Riders 84 pts
+Power Weapon
+Plasma Pistol
+Melta Bombs
+2x Sniper Rifles

Fast Attack:
Scout Sentinel Squadron: 105 pts
+2x Scout Sentinels

I'd like to see a new cron army take this challenge. I don't think their "worst" list would be all that bad compared to some others.

niv-mizzet wrote:
I'd like to see a new cron army take this challenge. I don't think their "worst" list would be all that bad compared to some others.

Sort of. The new 'Crons get silly when the support tricks happen, without them they're just short-ranged grunts with FNP that go down fast to heavy bolters.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

niv-mizzet wrote:
I'd like to see a new cron army take this challenge. I don't think their "worst" list would be all that bad compared to some others.

Sort of. The new 'Crons get silly when the support tricks happen, without them they're just short-ranged grunts with FNP that go down fast to heavy bolters.

In a battle with "the worst lists," that sounds pretty okay.

I'll try staring at the codex when I get home to see if I can come up with a 7cron one, but off the top of my head they all seem like, at least casual-game-worthy. Unlike the crisis suits without guns or on-foot death company dual wielding thunder hammers, which are pretty obvious fail lists.

Maybe someone else can come up with one?

niv-mizzet wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:

niv-mizzet wrote:
I'd like to see a new cron army take this challenge. I don't think their "worst" list would be all that bad compared to some others.

Sort of. The new 'Crons get silly when the support tricks happen, without them they're just short-ranged grunts with FNP that go down fast to heavy bolters.

In a battle with "the worst lists," that sounds pretty okay.

I'll try staring at the codex when I get home to see if I can come up with a 7cron one, but off the top of my head they all seem like, at least casual-game-worthy. Unlike the crisis suits without guns or on-foot death company dual wielding thunder hammers, which are pretty obvious fail lists.

Maybe someone else can come up with one?

Looking at it don't think it is possible, even sub par units are useful, book synergies really well, units on their own that maybe meh are great with other units to back them up.

Going to the army that I actually collect, it's easy to make an inefficient Astra Militarum army but harder to make one that's utterly dysfunctional. The best I can think of is one that has no ranged attacks above S4 and even that at least has voluminous antitroop firepower and lots of krak grenades.

HQ
Company Command squad carapace armor for everyone, powerfist, krak grenades for the vets
105 points

Three enginseers 120
Three squads of one servitor 30

Three Ministorum Priests 75
(HQ: 330)

Troops
2 vet squads with vox casters krak grenades and grenadiers, 90 points each.
(Troops: 180)

Elites
3 Militarum Tempestus Platoons consisting of
Command squad with powerfist and platoon standard (120)
Three scions squads with powerfists and vox casters (100x3=300)
420 for each platoon takes me up to 1770. To burn 80 points I get Kurov's Aquila for the commander and add an extra servitor to two of th units

What this gets you: A bunch of power fists in five-man units that are unlikely to survive to use them, though you do have six ICs, half of which have servo arms, to shuffle around. The techpriests are probably best off joining a unit and abandoning their servitors to mindlock. The only shooting attacks higher than S3 are thrown krak grenades.

On the other hand you do still have 91 warm bodies on the field armed with guns they are capable of shooting and the ability to hurt tanks if you manage to get into combat.

oz of the north wrote:

niv-mizzet wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:

niv-mizzet wrote:
I'd like to see a new cron army take this challenge. I don't think their "worst" list would be all that bad compared to some others.

Sort of. The new 'Crons get silly when the support tricks happen, without them they're just short-ranged grunts with FNP that go down fast to heavy bolters.

In a battle with "the worst lists," that sounds pretty okay.

I'll try staring at the codex when I get home to see if I can come up with a 7cron one, but off the top of my head they all seem like, at least casual-game-worthy. Unlike the crisis suits without guns or on-foot death company dual wielding thunder hammers, which are pretty obvious fail lists.

Maybe someone else can come up with one?

Looking at it don't think it is possible, even sub par units are useful, book synergies really well, units on their own that maybe meh are great with other units to back them up.

Agreed. I was about to point towards the Flayed Ones until I realized they were buffed and made fairly deadly with AP 5, +1A and Shred (for no points increase). The 7e Cron Codex really doesn't have a true deadweight.

Chaplain with Bike 110

6 ten man scout suads w/ 5 shotguns, 5 sniper rifles, and a bare land speeder storm. 160 each = 960

3 ten man scout biker squads with 3 grenade launchers each - 195x3 = 585

3 whirlwinds 65x3 = 195

Total 1850.

 Peregrine wrote:
Farsight Tau win this easily. I'm too lazy to go back and calculate it again, but you can make an army of nothing but crisis suits with no weapons (redundant shield generators on every upgrade slot to maximize the points wasted). And because they're so expensive thanks to all the wasted points you don't even get enough of them to compensate for your lack of shooting and poor melee stats with overwhelming numbers.

I remember this one. Fun list. If I played Tau I would definitely try a few games with it at my LGS just to look at the reactions.

Dark Eldar:

Succubus w/ Power Weapon - 90
Succubus w/ Power Weapon - 90

10 Bloodbrides, Syren w/ Power Weapon - 155
10 Bloodbrides, Syren w/ Power Weapon - 155
10 Bloodbrides, Syren w/ Power Weapon - 155

10 Wyches, Hekatrix w/ Power Weapon - 125
10 Wyches, Hekatrix w/ Power Weapon - 125
10 Wyches, Hekatrix w/ Power Weapon - 125
10 Wyches, Hekatrix w/ Power Weapon - 125
10 Wyches, Hekatrix w/ Power Weapon - 125
10 Wyches - 100

12 Razorwing Flock - 240
12 Razorwing Flock - 240

1850

The Succubi each join a Razowing Flock.

Working to a 1850 target still feels unnatural, but here we go...

Necrons:

HQ:

Catacomb Command Barge with tesla cannon, Voidblade, Mindshackle scarabs, resurrection orb.

Catacomb Command Barge with tesla cannon, Voidblade, Mindshackle scarabs, resurrection orb, Orb of Eternity.

Troops:

5 Tesla Immortals

5 Tesla Immortals

Elites:

Shard of the Deceiver,

Fast Attack:

9 Scarabs,

9 Scarabs,

5 Scarabs.

Heavy Support:

Monolith,

Monolith,

Monolith.

Best I can do.

For AM, surely just load up on platoons, ccs and conscripts with no upgrades?

No shooting or cc attacks higher than 3. Anything with an AV is safe.

Low LD means everyone's liable to run.

Unbound army of 185 ratlings.

No objective secured, 185 models at S2 T2 Ld6 5+ save. Sniper rifles make them only good against MCs, terrible against anything else.

 TheSilo wrote:
Unbound army of 185 ratlings.

No objective secured, 185 models at S2 T2 Ld6 5+ save. Sniper rifles make them only good against MCs, terrible against anything else.

You'd do worse with an unbound CCS list. 1850 points gets 150 guardsmen. With nothing but laspistols and S3 Ap- close combat weapons.

Fewer dudes, lower damage output. I guess they'd be able to order themselves to ignore cover on their laspistols...

All Nephilim Jetfighters. Wounded by most weapons, and not really capable of dealing enough damage to be scary.

That and all reserves, so auto lose T1.

 jreilly89 wrote:
All Nephilim Jetfighters. Wounded by most weapons, and not really capable of dealing enough damage to be scary.

That and all reserves, so auto lose T1.

"No auto-lose" was part of the initial condition.

Though I suspect taking a reserves mod that lets you intentionally delay your stuff and keeping your planes off the table would weaken your list significantly.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/624238.page#7404519

A naked Chaos Lord, and 35 man units of cultists? Can't take down armour!

Eldar: six squads of storm guardians with no upgrades. three squads of Howling Banshees with exarch with disarming strike and triskele. Baharoth. Three squads of Swooping Hawks.

Out-dated and probably the only 'useless' units in the codex IMO

So someone requested the worst Necron list possible. I think this is about it. It's still pretty impressive...


+++ 1850 Worst (1840pts) +++

++ Necrons: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1840pts) ++

+ (No Category) +

Relics and Warlord Traits
····Codex: Necrons [Warlord Traits]

+ HQ (295pts) +

Lord (165pts) [Mindshackle Scarabs, Phylactery, Tachyon arrow, The Nightmare Shroud, Voidreaper]

Lord (130pts) [Gauntlet of Fire, Mindshackle Scarabs, Phylactery, The Veil of Darkness, Warscythe]

+ Elites (700pts) +

Deathmarks (180pts) [10x Deathmark]

Flayed Ones (260pts) [20x Flayed One]

Flayed Ones (260pts) [20x Flayed One]

+ Troops (170pts) +

Immortals (85pts)
····5x Immortal [5x Tesla Carbine]

Immortals (85pts)
····5x Immortal [5x Tesla Carbine]

+ Heavy Support (675pts) +

Canoptek Spyders (225pts)
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]

Canoptek Spyders (225pts)
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]

Canoptek Spyders (225pts)
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]
····Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism, Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]

Admittedly I've cheated the game with nine MC's...

Well, that;s not a great list, but it will still curb-stomp any of the other armies in this thread.

Not so bad as it is schizophrenic but here it is
HQ-
Bare bones Chaos lord
2x3 mark of slaneesh mutilators
5 possessed with icon of vengeance and mark of slaneesh
2x 10 cultists
8 csm
10 warp talons with mark of khorne
2x5 havocs with mark of khorne CCWs and 4 lascannons
1841 pts

Ffyllotek wrote:
So someone requested the worst Necron list possible. I think this is about it. It's still pretty impressive...

Not sure you even tried particularly hard, there's a lot of assault strength in there, and not a single Monolith (Still the worst point sink in the book, heck, with the portal nerfed it might actually be worse now.)

My attempt had three Monoliths, the Deciever (Easily the weakest Elite choice), two Command Barges kitted out to be pricier than your lords but less effective... I had to resort to Scarab spam to fill in the last few hundred points, but at least those are less effective than Flayed Ones point for point.