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Not sure what to expect from the series. Superman light with university / college drama? What's special about Supergirl? Is she just a female version of the most bland and boring superhero there is?
Paradigm wrote:
I do wonder how they will do Supergirl without having Superman (unless they do at least mention him and crossover with MoS or have 2 separate settings). Then again, I am utterly ignorant on the character so that might not even be needed.
Pretty sure that they've mentioned that Superman will in fact make an appearance in the series - and that they're currently trying to cast him?
Barksdale wrote:Agreed. I'd destroy Melissa Benoist don't get me wrong. But I'm not feeling that.
Classy!
Sigvatr wrote: Not sure what to expect from the series. Superman light with university / college drama? What's special about Supergirl? Is she just a female version of the most bland and boring superhero there is?
Checks thread title.
Tries to determine what Sigvatr's point is.
Determines there isn't one, beyond a classic Swoop -n- Poop, of course!
Paradigm wrote: What is this for? Superbat? Superman 2? Her own spin-off? I recall seeing the film was being made, but can't think by who.
TV show. CBS. Same guy who made Arrow and Flash on CW. Indeterminate whether it will cross over with those two.
H.B.M.C. wrote: From what WB/DC have said, the TV world and Movie world do not cross. It's part of the reason why they can't use Batman on Arrow (so just made Arrow Batman-by-another-name, not that I'm complaining). That said, it has been seen in audition tapes/audition scripts that Kara's cousin does get some non-oblique references. Seems you can do Arrow without ever mentioning Gotham (the place, not that stupid show), but you can't do Superman's cousin without mentioning Superman.
That Dakka Dakka hasn't lost its gak regarding Jimmy Olson being her love interest and being played by a black guy with the build of a football player is testament to how apathetic people are toward the show.
The show was originally floated to CW but they declined because it had a female lead. CW's advertisers were not happy that CW's line up appealed to mostly women, and has been trying to get more shows like Arrow and Flash, with male leads, because they do well with both genders. Which is why we'll be getting another Arrow spin off with Atom, and possibly Firestorm, instead of Supergirl on CW.
BlaxicanX wrote: That Dakka Dakka hasn't lost its gak regarding Jimmy Olson being her love interest and being played by a black guy with the build of a football player is testament to how apathetic people are toward the show.
Perhaps, they want to avoid the accusations of unfounded nerd rage, and/or straight up racism ?
Maybe they just don't care what liberties the show has taken with a non supe supporting character, in a show with it's own continuity outside of the comics, movies, and other TV series ?
Although, I have to admit I thought it was an odd choice, but 10 seconds later I realised I had more important things to deal with and let it go.
Perhaps, they want to avoid the accusations of unfounded nerd rage, and/or straight up racism ?
Maybe they just don't care what liberties the show has taken with a non supe supporting character, in a show with it's own continuity outside of the comics, movies, and other TV series ?
Alpharius wrote: And perhaps it isn't a big deal as maybe BlaxicanX wants it to be?
If only they would have a show with an actually interesting female superhero...like Jean Grey? Storm? She-Hulk? Supergirl just seems so...bland from reading her entry on Wikipedia. She basically is Superman just with boobs? How is that "empowering" at all? It just seems like a cheap "Look we have a woman!" effort to me.
...oh dear lord, but please, don't let us have another Electra...or...Catwoman...movie...dear lord...
Jean Grey, for example, would be awesome. Strong woman that doesn't go into feminazi territory, but is both a loving wife and a strong woman on her own, with immense powers and frequently saving the world's butt, rich background etc. You could even start with a young Jean Grey who is unaware of the full scope of her powers and then her character slowly developing alongside her powers and the struggle she frequently is in...I'd watch it.
But female Superman and LassoOfTruth-TotallyNotSuperman-Woman? Come on.
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Jean Grey is held firmly in a Death Grip by FOX. You won't see any X-Men related Characters on TV until they give up on making movies. That's why Marvel, and Agents of Shield in particular, are moving towards Inhumans to fill the gap previously filled my mutants.
Sigvatr wrote: If only they would have a show with an actually interesting female superhero...like Jean Grey? Storm? She-Hulk? Supergirl just seems so...bland from reading her entry on Wikipedia. She basically is Superman just with boobs? How is that "empowering" at all? It just seems like a cheap "Look we have a woman!" effort to me.
...oh dear lord, but please, don't let us have another Electra...or...Catwoman...movie...dear lord...
Jean Grey, for example, would be awesome. Strong woman that doesn't go into feminazi territory, but is both a loving wife and a strong woman on her own, with immense powers and frequently saving the world's butt, rich background etc. You could even start with a young Jean Grey who is unaware of the full scope of her powers and then her character slowly developing alongside her powers and the struggle she frequently is in...I'd watch it.
But female Superman and LassoOfTruth-TotallyNotSuperman-Woman? Come on.
Well, Storm and Jean Grey, as mentioned, have been done (and done pretty well, to be honest) by Fox under their liscence, and both have new 'versions' of their characters coming in Apocalpse next year. Marvel are working on AKA Jessica Jones as one of their Netflix series, and have a Ms/Captain Marvel film in the works. I also wouldn't be surprised to see She-hulk in Phase 4, or maybe even showing up in future series of Daredevil (first as an opposing lawyer to DD, then being revealed as Banner's cousin and having powers ect).
Must admit (from the very little I know) I'm not fussed about Supergirl, but then, Man of Steel made me take Superman seriously for the first time, maybe this will do the same.
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Supergirl was always more interesting for me than Superman. Still pretty far down on the list of interest, but at least she had some substance.
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LordofHats wrote: Something seems off about it. Too much red I think. The Skirt is red, the stockings are red, and the boots are red. Way too red heavy.
I also can't help but feel, much like Wonder Woman, there was some bad casting here. She just seems too old to be Super Girl. Is super girl not a teenager in the upcoming film?
No, she's not. She's supposed to be 24, so there's really nothing wrong with the casting.
Regarding the costume, it looks really solid, and she looks good in it. It's very much a classic Supergirl look but with taller boots, somewhat New 52 style but without the cutout knees. I really don't know what people want, other than the half-shirt. And that wasn't happening...they're going after a female audience with this show.
I wonder why no one is complaining about a 24 year old being called "girl". Not being Mr. Social Justice or anything, I could care less, but are there complaints?
Sigvatr wrote: If only they would have a show with an actually interesting female superhero...like Jean Grey? Storm? She-Hulk? Supergirl just seems so...bland from reading her entry on Wikipedia. She basically is Superman just with boobs? How is that "empowering" at all? It just seems like a cheap "Look we have a woman!" effort to me.
...oh dear lord, but please, don't let us have another Electra...or...Catwoman...movie...dear lord...
Jean Grey, for example, would be awesome. Strong woman that doesn't go into feminazi territory, but is both a loving wife and a strong woman on her own, with immense powers and frequently saving the world's butt, rich background etc. You could even start with a young Jean Grey who is unaware of the full scope of her powers and then her character slowly developing alongside her powers and the struggle she frequently is in...I'd watch it.
But female Superman and LassoOfTruth-TotallyNotSuperman-Woman? Come on.
Wait. Jean Grey is interesting? I'm fairly sure the most interesting thing involving her was her death. The permanent one. Even Cyclops would be a better female lead!
From what little I've seen of Supergirl - Smallville, Superman / Batman Apocalypse and Superman / Batman Unbound - I actually found Supergirl to actually be an interesting character.
There's interesting things actually in there, from her actually living as a Kryptonian, not actually just being a survivor from her home being destroyed, but actually seeing its last days.
The point of this post I was going to make as going to be: "but all this just makes her an interesting supporting character, not a lead." But, actually seeing what I typed there in that last paragraph... If they go with what I'm imagining, flipping heck, this could actually be a good show.
I'm thinking something like a crossover between Continuum and Arrow's flashbacks with a dash of life in occupied France...
So, if you were to show , say, 3 themes of her life and how they interact.
Firstly, her life in her mid-late teens on Krypton before Brainiac's invasion. - The good, happy, carefree life, basically.
Secondly, various flashbacks of Brainiac's invasion (I don't think it's always Brainiac, is it? Anyway, I'm just going from my memories of seeing Unbound.) - You could probably get some quite 'dark' character development-ish stories in there, in a very similar way to the Arrow 'Island' flashbacks. - Just how much BS would be needed for Brainiac's 'bottling' of Kandor to take several years as a form of a 'siege?' - Something long enough to give some seasons worth of storyarc in it?
But you then juxtapose this with the main story of her modern day Earth home (that's similar to Central City on the Flash show in 'feel'). Kara's needing to be to grow to this superhero type person with a capital S, exemplified by her cousin, but still working through the trauma she's already suffered in her previous years.
I'm fairly certain that in the DC universe(I hesitate to say continuity), that if you think of one horrific disaster, and claim it's Brainiac's fault, you've got a 90% chance of being right.
Personally I would've put a little more yellow into it, but sometimes what works in a comic doesn't work on screen (compare Kurse from Marvel comics to Kurse from Thor: The Dark World to see what I mean). Even he Flash costume is still a little silly (it's the lightning bolt really - there's no practical reason why it'd be there, not that everything needs to be practical, but you know what I mean).
I think it's going to be hard enough having a super-hero that can fly and punch holes in the Earth's crust work on a TV budget, so really the suit is the least of their problems.
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Sigvatr wrote: If only they would have a show with an actually interesting female superhero...like Jean Grey?
Jean Grey interesting? That's funny.
Storm?
She's never worked well outside of the X-Men. I actually find most X-Men characters barring a few (Wolverine, Gambit, Quick Silver/Scarlet Witch for example) to be rather boring on their own. They really do work best as an ensemble. How long has it been since we had a good XMen tv series anyway? Like 10 years now?
She-Hulk?
I'd watch it.
Supergirl just seems so...bland from reading her entry on Wikipedia.
While I disagree that Supergirl is bland, I do admit I find the choice of her, of all DC heroes for a solo series odd. Huntress. Vixen. Hell even Cat Woman as long as we avoided Halle Berry. They tried a Birds of Prey series a couple years ago, and honestly it wasn't a bad idea. The writing just sucked. I totally watch a series about Oracle. Legion of Super Heroes? There's an underrated franchise. There are a lot of things I'd rather see than Super Girl. Hell. I'll go for Power Girl. Power Girl has always been cool. EDIT: Or Question. Question is awesome (the guy or girl variant) as long as Question acts like he/she did on Justice League;
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At least power-girl had a little something to her story. I have to agree with Sigvatr here, what exactly is the pull supposed to be other than a female superman? I was never really interested in supergirl as a character because she'd already been done in another gender. I just don't get where the interest is supposed to come from.
Wonder woman was a better idea for a tv series, although i heard they messed it up pretty badly.
The Wonder Woman TV Pilot was terrible. It was like the writer had never read a Wonder Woman comic in his life, and decided to make up all the details he didn't know.
Wonder Woman has this curse about her, not just in other media but the comics as well. Things just seem to have this habit of going horribly wrong and the work just comes out terrible.
Torga_DW wrote: At least power-girl had a little something to her story. I have to agree with Sigvatr here, what exactly is the pull supposed to be other than a female superman? I was never really interested in supergirl as a character because she'd already been done in another gender. I just don't get where the interest is supposed to come from.
Wonder woman was a better idea for a tv series, although i heard they messed it up pretty badly.
The best female solo series would be a non Alist hero TBH. Black Cat. Nothing related at all to superhumans. She is just really good burglar.
Make her a robin hood type char or something, She steals to fund an animal shelter that also houses sick dying orphans IDK.
Yeah, but at least (before the series) she had a good, interesting and original story. Supergirl from the get-go is a story about a kryptonian orphan learning to live amongst humanity - and its been done to death already. I just don't have great expectations for a series based on this particular character.
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hotsauceman1 wrote: The best female solo series would be a non Alist hero TBH. Black Cat. Nothing related at all to superhumans. She is just really good burglar.
Make her a robin hood type char or something, She steals to fund an animal shelter that also houses sick dying orphans IDK.
I think there's a fair few superheroines they could do better than supergirl. The superhuman part isn't the issue to me, its the fact that its already been done with another gender.
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