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Yeah, i do get what you mean. Too much superpower and the suspense is gone because nothing can stop them. Which ends in kryptonite being the most common element on the planet to try and bring back a credible threat.

Kind of meh, a bit too soft around the face for a supergirl, looks more like a cosplayer than the "real" thing.

This should be Supergirl.

Computron wrote:
Kind of meh, a bit too soft around the face for a supergirl, looks more like a cosplayer than the "real" thing.

This should be Supergirl.

Spoiler:

Can't cast actors who are currently employed on other series. Contractual obligations and such. Otherwise, I agree with you.

Computron's got it.

 Torga_DW wrote:
Supergirl from the get-go is a story about a kryptonian orphan learning to live amongst humanity - and its been done to death already.

I kinda hoped I had already covered this with my theory but... In Superman Unbound at least, she wasn't really an orphan, she had had a childhood, actually had a life.

That carries in her general story. She isn't Super Man but a girl. Supes grew up on Earth, with no actual life experience of being Kryptonian. Super Girl on the other hand knew very much what it was like to be Kryptonian, and had a very different struggle from Clark on Earth.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Jean Grey, for example, would be awesome. Strong woman that doesn't go into feminazi territory, but is both a loving wife and a strong woman on her own, with immense powers and frequently saving the world's butt, rich background etc. You could even start with a young Jean Grey who is unaware of the full scope of her powers and then her character slowly developing alongside her powers and the struggle she frequently is in...I'd watch it.

You know what character I would like? Glory! But I guess it my taste are not mainstream enough for this .
(Spoilered for a bit of violence)

Did I mention that this is just her Bruce Banner form? She can change quite a bit.
(Spoilered for moar violence and the subtle hint of a nipple)


I guess she does go into “feminazi territory” though, because
(spoilered because it is an actual spoiler)


Also not sure how well the monsters and spaceships and all that could translate with live actors and CGI rather than just drawings, but seeing her battering down something with her fists like that in a movie/tv-show would be so damn sweet!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Imagine they were uncovered. Now imagine the social justice outcry about objectification and over-sexualisation and blah blah blah.

This nips that right in the bud before we even start. Good move.

Right up till this...






and, yes, as DC found in New 52, changing Power Girl's outfit to make her less sexy tends to cause epic rage on a scale that Social Justice Warriors wish they could cause. DC rolled back the change with (for them) startling speed.


and I will almost guarantee the writers try and get PeeGee here on the show somehow.

A sexy costume can work well if the character is written well. The problem is if the woman has a sexy costume and the personality of a librarian. Er, schoolmarm. Uh, lawyer? I mean if she doesn't have the bravado for it. Yeah.

 Ouze wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
What's with making everything dark, dark, dark? I like the design, but would prefer the colors to be a bit brighter.

Darker schemes look better on screen.

Would you (or someone else) expound on that - why is that?

They tried the comic-book-bright lycra look in various Superhero productions through the '80s and '90s. It almost universally winds up looking cheesy.

There's probably all sorts of scientific reasoning out there for why it is, but it just seems that people view comic books or cartoons differently to live-action stuff, and so what works in the former just doesn't look as good in the latter.

Computron wrote:
Kind of meh, a bit too soft around the face for a supergirl, looks more like a cosplayer than the "real" thing.

This should be Supergirl.

Spoiler:

So I guess the "consensus" is that an edgier Supergirl would be bad, but they should have cast a barbarian-looking chick. And maybe it shouldn't be Supergirl at all but a bloodthirsty warrior woman. But wearing bright colors. Because not too edgy. And bewbs.

Hilarious. And a case study in geek "taste."

Talks about leaked information about the show and the history of Supergirl

 hotsauceman1 wrote:


The best female solo series would be a non Alist hero TBH. Black Cat. Nothing related at all to superhumans. She is just really good burglar.
Make her a robin hood type char or something, She steals to fund an animal shelter that also houses sick dying orphans IDK.

Black Cat? Naw.

Their best option, if they really want to have some room to do some groundbreaking super hero stuff founding in a great source material is the present day Kate Kane Batwoman. It would also give them the potential to tie it in to a Gotham Central TV show---you know, they show they SHOULD have done instead of Gotham.

It checks plenty of boxes:

--Big name with the "Bat" series.
--Super diversity with the lesbian protagonist.
--rich source material to farm from.

 gorgon wrote:
And maybe it shouldn't be Supergirl at all but a bloodthirsty warrior woman.

Is that about me? Glory is not really bloodthirsty, she is merely very brutal when fighting. And relatively quick to anger. But (spoilered for spoiler)

And I never said that edgy is bad. Also boobs are okay for eventual sex scene, but when fighting they should never get the hint of a focus imho.

I'd prefer to see Huntress, honestly. Zatanna is my favorite, but I think her stuff would be more than tv could do without a huge budget, plus she's more of a team player. Huntress is a solo act. And they could add in the Question later, and have a killer duo. Seriously, almost anyone would be better than Supergirl. But Huntress is my (realistic) #1.

I think Huntress would be prime material for a solo series, but I think her appearance on Arrow kind of forms a road block. The depiction of the character on that series is a lot darker with far fewer redeeming virtues than the comic counterpart.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'd prefer to see Huntress, honestly. Zatanna is my favorite, but I think her stuff would be more than tv could do without a huge budget, plus she's more of a team player. Huntress is a solo act. And they could add in the Question later, and have a killer duo. Seriously, almost anyone would be better than Supergirl. But Huntress is my (realistic) #1.

Huntress features pretty heavily in Arrow, though (well, series 1 and 2 at least. Not seen 3 yet, and I'm avoiding any info on it), and while she was good enough that I honestly wouldn't mind her getting her own show spun off from that, it seems unlikely.

I think, depending on how it's handled, SG could be interesting enough as a character/plot, especially if they work in some Arrow-'Island'-style flashbacks to the last days of Krypton (which looked amazing in MoS. I doubt they could do quite as well with a TV budget, but the odd flashback would certainly add some 'awesome factor')

I forgot all about her in season 1. Time to go back and rewatch. Dammit. Well, at least I get to see her on the screen anyway. Job well done.

 Paradigm wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
of Krypton (which looked amazing in MoS. I doubt they could do quite as well with a TV budget, but the odd flashback would certainly add some 'awesome factor')

They could always just use Simon Fraser University in Canada like all the other science fiction shows hat need an advanced alien city. :p

But yeah, this discussion has got me watching Superman Unbound again now.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I forgot all about her in season 1. Time to go back and rewatch. Dammit. Well, at least I get to see her on the screen anyway. Job well done.

Since when did one need an excuse to rewatch Arrow?

I think she just has the one episode in series 2 (the one where she fights Canary), but in S1 she has her initial 2-parter (which is great, two of the best episodes) and one later on. Put all 4 together and you have a pretty awesome arc to watch.

meh.

TBH, I find most female heroines to be prety lame and uninspired, whereas the female antiheros/villains tend to be fairly interesting. I find it odd that both DC and Marvel keep trying to push characters that nobody really cares about instead of Harley Quinn and Black Widow (respectively).

Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

 cincydooley wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:


The best female solo series would be a non Alist hero TBH. Black Cat. Nothing related at all to superhumans. She is just really good burglar.
Make her a robin hood type char or something, She steals to fund an animal shelter that also houses sick dying orphans IDK.

Black Cat? Naw.

Their best option, if they really want to have some room to do some groundbreaking super hero stuff founding in a great source material is the present day Kate Kane Batwoman. It would also give them the potential to tie it in to a Gotham Central TV show---you know, they show they SHOULD have done instead of Gotham.

It checks plenty of boxes:

--Big name with the "Bat" series.
--Super diversity with the lesbian protagonist.
--rich source material to farm from.

What about the mute Batgirl who was a trained assasin? Cassandra Cain. Fits in the the grittyness AND she is asian so DIVERSITY.
And make her a mute protagonist.

I would have thought Mute Protagonists don't work on TV, but then I saw Celty Sturluson

Cassandra Cain could be interesting, and her story would fit well into the Arrow/Flashverse tv series'.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

What about the mute Batgirl who was a trained assasin? Cassandra Cain. Fits in the the grittyness AND she is asian so DIVERSITY.
And make her a mute protagonist.

Yeah.

Nothing says "successful television show" like "protagonist that can't speak."

Well played.

Or, make her a sidekick to Nightwing and have her learning to speak a main plotpoint.
I dont know, if done right, a character who doesnt speak can be done right

 adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

Yeah, theyre essentially giving Harley the Black Widow treatment, stick her in a show with a bunch of male characters so as to pay lip service to diversity. Then when she inevitably outshines her costars (as ScarJo has done in the Black Widow role) inexplicably refuse to give her a standalone show/film.

As for "TV being for second stringers", Superman had smallville, second stringer? Batman has Gotham, second stringer (and dont give me that gak about it not being a Batman show. Thus far Bruce Wayne and/or some form of Batman supervillain has managed to make it into every fething episode)? hell, The Flash is getting a film.

Lets look at some of the "first stringers" that are getting films:
Guardians of the Galaxy. That like 90 issue comic series from like 30 years ago that nobody had ever heard of.
Antman. Most people never heard of the dude and those that did dont even like him.
Black Panther. Lol, okay. I get it, first mainstream black comic hero, I respect that, but the number of people that really care about the character? hah
Doctor Strange? Solidly B-list.
Inhumans? If it wasnt for the feud over the X-Men, the Inhumans wouldnt he getting the exposure theyve been receiving.

Aquaman. The least popular and most niche member of the Justice League is getting a film.

Shazam and Cyborg too, granted their more popular than half of the Marvel entries Ive listed.

But TV is so infinitly cheaper that you should do with with b-list non-superhuman to give them a time to shine.

 Paradigm wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'd prefer to see Huntress, honestly. Zatanna is my favorite, but I think her stuff would be more than tv could do without a huge budget, plus she's more of a team player. Huntress is a solo act. And they could add in the Question later, and have a killer duo. Seriously, almost anyone would be better than Supergirl. But Huntress is my (realistic) #1.

Huntress features pretty heavily in Arrow, though (well, series 1 and 2 at least. Not seen 3 yet, and I'm avoiding any info on it), and while she was good enough that I honestly wouldn't mind her getting her own show spun off from that, it seems unlikely.

Also, y'know, she was on Birds of Prey. There's plenty of TV Huntress.