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Ah plenty of time to figure out what I want to use the models for then.

Main question is not if you want the models.. Its, do you want the models in 2 years?

 Micky wrote:
Ah plenty of time to figure out what I want to use the models for then.

Nah mate. Consider this. The pledge manager is already /made/.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 Micky wrote:
Ah plenty of time to figure out what I want to use the models for then.

Nah mate. Consider this. The pledge manager is already /made/.

With the amount of time they spent building that pledge managing beast I'm sure they will use it again. Efficiency!!

It would absolutely be foolish in all regards to not use existing purpose built software. We might joke about RH, but I can't think of a company that can't charge the U.S. government for labor that would implement a business practice like that.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
IN HERALD NEWS:

I got nothing. No marching orders or new information as of this time. Any questions you guys have for me to put towards the team?

When can we expect to see larger versions of the concept art?
When can we expect the first proper update, or is it just going to be one update a day with the image of the freebie and more stretch goals being added quietly to the main page?

Its a little weird they have made 430k but yet they have only one update

 Malkaven wrote:
Its a little weird they have made 430k but yet they have only one update

Well, their last update said they'd been up for 48h and were gonna get some sleep.
Expect more communication when they wake up and had some coffee (European time), I guess.

Same as last time.
Someone calculated a tiny 1,5 Million $ for everything to unlock!

RoninXiC wrote:
Same as last time.
Someone calculated a tiny 1,5 Million $ for everything to unlock!

Well, it IS a lot of stuff. Should they have unlocked everything right at the beginning, no matter how small the funding goal is?
That makes no sense ...

Actually that wasn't a complaint. Just saying that they're expecting/hoping for this project to hit VERY high numbers.

Honestly, a 10,000$ gap between stretchgoals is very fair. For a single model, okay, not cheap, but for units like the minotaurs it's really not that much.

SO FAR, I can only complain about the structure of the project. It is quite hard to see what exactly is available since many sc-fi and fantasy choices are very similar and some can be used in both worlds.

RoninXiC wrote:
Actually that wasn't a complaint. Just saying that they're expecting/hoping for this project to hit VERY high numbers.

Ah, okay, mussunderstood then ...

SO FAR, I can only complain about the structure of the project. It is quite hard to see what exactly is available since many sc-fi and fantasy choices are very similar and some can be used in both worlds.

Yeah, it's indeed a bit confusing ...

Backed at the Lieutenant level. Missed out on the first KS. From scanning through this thread, am I right in thinking the quality is good but expect it to take 2 years to deliver, with an update every 3 months or so?

Is it just me, or are the $260,000 and the $310,000 stretch goal the same model? Both sci-fi priestess?

Yes they are the same.

willb2064 wrote:
Backed at the Lieutenant level. Missed out on the first KS. From scanning through this thread, am I right in thinking the quality is good but expect it to take 2 years to deliver, with an update every 3 months or so?

while we hope that RH has go their act together and that wont happen this time....yes...good expectations

Mutter wrote:

 Malkaven wrote:
Its a little weird they have made 430k but yet they have only one update

Well, their last update said they'd been up for 48h and were gonna get some sleep.
Expect more communication when they wake up and had some coffee (European time), I guess.

Interesting I have backed one man KS with many more updates rather than full time employees at an albiet small company.

I've no idea why people expect so many updates tbh. What do you want to know?

 shamikebab wrote:
I've no idea why people expect so many updates tbh. What do you want to know?

Maybe details of upcoming stretch goals / recently unlocked ones. Though, admittedly, the first day isn't the best time to do an update per unlocked goal, given how fast they went through them. This could include higher quality copies of the artwork that ties to the goal, so backers have a better idea of what they're pledging for rather than the small ones that make up the bulk of the main page. Especially as not everyone is going to bother looking at the main page to see what's been added.

It might also be nice to see that RH are actually paying attention to the campaign, rather than staying up for two days before pressing the launch button and then all of them going off to get some sleep.

It may be better to take stock and put out a proper update to follow up on the filler one once the rush is more or less over.

I hope more of the fantasy sister stuff unlocks. I got more use for them. The concept art for throws knights is great.

 Lockark wrote:
I hope more of the fantasy sister stuff unlocks. I got more use for them. The concept art for throws knights is great.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of use? WH Imperial, Mordheim or Warmachine? =P

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
I hope more of the fantasy sister stuff unlocks. I got more use for them. The concept art for throws knights is great.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of use? WH Imperial, Mordheim or Warmachine? =P

warhammer rpg 2nd ed, pathfinder and WH empire.

I play a calvary heavy empire army were the Knights would be awesome.

I want foot mounted stuff more for rpg npc's.

If 9th ed fantasy is dead in the water I'm switching to other song of blades and heros, or mantic's game with my existing empire army.


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 Kirasu wrote:
Main question is not if you want the models.. Its, do you want the models in 2 years?

Just a note. This is why I'm more interested in the fantasy stuff more then the not 40K.

I don't even know if I will still be playing 40k in two years the way gw is going. But I always will have uses for cool fantasy figures.

I kind of suspect that some of the rumored GW changes to fantasy (armies being combined and/or dropped) and more "concrete" rumors of plastic Sisters could be an additional reason this Kickstarter is so rushed. If either of those happen (and it seems like it would be soon if they do) it would seriously impact the popularity of this KS.

 keltikhoa wrote:

Any chance on finding out why we are unlocking certain minis twice when they are the same across both Fantasy and Sci Fi? They stated most of the "Lust Elves" are usable in both settings but we have to unlock each model in each setting. I am eagerly awaiting the Knights and Daughters to be unlocked too and seeing the same model unlocks twice is making me go

We did make some mistakes on our unlocks, which will be mostly rectified in the next Update (s). So if we unlock something twice, then that means either we made a mistake (which we are in the process of fixing), or because the final models will be different. I am very sorry for this, and for the confusion

prankster wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
IN HERALD NEWS:

I got nothing. No marching orders or new information as of this time. Any questions you guys have for me to put towards the team?

When can we expect to see larger versions of the concept art?
When can we expect the first proper update, or is it just going to be one update a day with the image of the freebie and more stretch goals being added quietly to the main page?

I'd find the RH photobucket. I'd expect a lot of it is there already.

Define proper update?

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

prankster wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
IN HERALD NEWS:

I got nothing. No marching orders or new information as of this time. Any questions you guys have for me to put towards the team?

When can we expect to see larger versions of the concept art?
When can we expect the first proper update, or is it just going to be one update a day with the image of the freebie and more stretch goals being added quietly to the main page?

I'd find the RH photobucket. I'd expect a lot of it is there already.

Define proper update?

Whilst it's entirely possible that some of the concept art is on their photobucket account, or will be at some point, I don't feel that it should be down to the backers to have to go digging for this kind of thing. Higher quality images, even if RH do just link to an image on photobuck, in updates will reach more backers and make it easier for people to decide what they like. This would increase the chance that people increase their pledges based off this.

As for a 'proper update', something that actually shows RH are interacting with their backers as a whole. They've already stated that they're not going to be following the comments on KS and any questions should be sent direct. So it'd be in their own best interests to put content in updates and get it out there, especially if they're getting repeats of the same questions.

carboncopy wrote:
I kind of suspect that some of the rumored GW changes to fantasy (armies being combined and/or dropped) and more "concrete" rumors of plastic Sisters could be an additional reason this Kickstarter is so rushed. If either of those happen (and it seems like it would be soon if they do) it would seriously impact the popularity of this KS.

Human Fantesy mini's tend to be usefull across a very board range of games, not just GW's. Especally if they look as good as the ones Raging Heroes is showing off here.

Once more of the Fantesy Sisters unlock i'm going to be very tempted to kick in a pledge.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 keltikhoa wrote:

Any chance on finding out why we are unlocking certain minis twice when they are the same across both Fantasy and Sci Fi? They stated most of the "Lust Elves" are usable in both settings but we have to unlock each model in each setting. I am eagerly awaiting the Knights and Daughters to be unlocked too and seeing the same model unlocks twice is making me go

We did make some mistakes on our unlocks, which will be mostly rectified in the next Update (s). So if we unlock something twice, then that means either we made a mistake (which we are in the process of fixing), or because the final models will be different. I am very sorry for this, and for the confusion

Masterful Heraldic work KM thanks!

Edited to add:
Also I used the live chat on their website to suggest that they move their "completed stretch goal" graphics to the bottom of the front page. (as long as they keep up with the unlocks on the army selection graphic) "Charlie" said they would pass the suggestion on to the team so maybe the front page will get cleaned up sometime.

Showing what's available NOW first does seem the sensible way to go,

they could then have upcoming stretch goals below and the page would look a lot cleaner

hopefully they agree

New "current stretch goal" graphic up showing the 460k - 510k goals. Still no Knights or Daugthers